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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - POPULAR BEACHES TARGETED FOR CLAIMS 290511
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Do you believe the Marine and Coastal Area Act should be repealed?


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*The National Government has made a huge mistake in altering the law on he coastal seabed in a rush to gain the Maori support and keep hold of power. Something they have not had for some time. Children in a lolly shop comes to mind. Steve

*The foreshore should belong to all New Zealanders. George

*But then I never thought it should have been passed in the first place and despite many submissions and letters. my views, along with the views of thousands, was ignored. So what will change? Despite ignoring the se submissions and our overwhelming response to the smacking CIR, I will of course be signing the new proposed referendum. I trust the CIR is worded as simply as this poll!! Robyn

*As predicted by many, this piece of legislation will be one of the most controversial passed in the last 20 years, and will split New Zealanders. Wayne

*Tell them to take a jump. Andrew

*The bill should never have been enacted. Of course it has to be repealed. Neil

*At the speed claims are being made for various coastal areas..there will be nothing to repeal. Jane

*It is an atrocious, racist, piece of legislation which gives preferential treatment to a group of people based on their ethnicity. This type of legislation was campaigned against when it was law in South Africa as morally wrong and repugnant. It should be repealed immediately as it is divisive and has no place in the statutes of NZ. Allan

*We need to protect the right of all NZ's to have free and unfettered access to our Marine and Coastal areas. Bruce

*The sea-bed and foreshore should always be Govt. owned to ensure National security. Ian

*Can't believe John Key has such little regard for the white people of NZ. Peter Sharples and Co. will be laughing.
Gutless Natiional party. Kay

*I think it's crazy to put our seabed and foreshore inthe hands of the "iwi", these items belong to ALL New Zealanders, and I'm sure I speak for most NEW ZEALANDERS. Lawrie

*Absolutely, the nonsense regarding the U.N Rights of indigenous peoples ukase and now this makes it impossible for me to vote for the Nat. Party again. The leadership of Dr.Brash makes it possible to give both my votes to ACT with confidence. Peter

*What is written on all NZ'ers passports?! We are all NZer's of whatever persuasion and should all have the same freedom of access to our beaches and foreshore. TN

*The law is apartheid introduced by a National Govt against the wishes of the majority without a mandate. Our subservient media are silent. Get rid of Key and Findlay in November! Irvine

*But then it should never have been made law in the first-place so we need proper tools like BCIR to ensure the govt. never rides over the electorate again. Before that happens we have to DEMAND the Maori parl. seats are abolished with this referendum so these separatist racial policies cannot be perpretrated on us by the politicians again. Also the TRUTH about the whole Maori mumbo-jumbo victimization industry needs to be told to the whole country. Monica

*Hardly any point saying what I think John Key has made a deal with the Maori's to stay in power. Bring on the Maori wars again. Gavin

*An absolute must! If only to avoid another greivance gravy train. Dave

*A huge costly exercise has been created, and will split NZ'ers along racial lines. Vic

*John key and Chris Finlayson have betrayed all national voters and will pay dearly at the next election. Greg

*All beaches are for ALL NZ people not just bloody Maori and I am part Maori. Ross

*Why is His Magnificence the A.G. aka Mr. Finlayson not been put on all news media current event programmes to answer how, what he said would not happen, has indeed occurred. If this man could not see this happening, how in the name of god does he justify his present position. A bit of broom stick jumping in the past may well have some traction in the way he has assiduously promoted this outrage on all Kiwi's. Surely in an election year, of all times he should be called to account for this legal travesty. Mind you in my opinion it really does illustrate just how inept our legal system and the people responsible for it, are indeed existing in a vacuum. Wiremu

*The Maori do not own any part of this country. We are tenants on the earth and the one that owns this country is God, Maori only want the money that all new zealanders pay to them but the cant keep the places clean and tidy. e.g. Raglan airport. This is the start of apatheid against the europeans and this will be the start of racial warfare ubless the govt., repeals the bill. Helen

*"1 Nation 1 People" makes a lot of sense. Very much in favour of public ownership of "seabed and foreshore". John

*Flood gates will be opened for more race based greed. David

*If this is not repealed and Maori gain authority over the seabed and foreshore, I believe it will be the recipe for serious conflict and insite racial hatered. Brian

*I thought M.Cullen had overstepped the mark when he believed he could spend our money more wisely than the taxpayer. Bow Chris Finlayson has taken this attitude to a whole new level. Democracy??? Doug

*Should we be charging Maori for the development of their written language? Bob

*The way in which this has been sold to the general populace was that only foreshore/land proved to have been in exclusive use and possession since 1840 would be subject to claim. Exclusive being the operable word. Evan

*It has been proven we have only one Tiriti, Maori, and this gives no exclusive rights to Maoris, www.treatyofwaitangi.net.nz. Article 3 says, Maoris are to be given the same rights as the people of England, including that of our foreshore and seabed. George

*I don't see what was wrong with 'All' New Zealanders sharing ownership in the first place - it should not have been changed -after all nobody truely owns anything (because we die) we are 'All' but caretakers and guardians of the land and that's how it should remain... Sharen

*This Key led National Socialist Government will go down in history as the worst administration this country has suffered under. Yes I include the Clarke Communist Government in that assessment. They have no redeeming factors. They are as left wing as their predecessors a bunch of spineless, racists. Who have set about to destroy the birthright of every New Zealander. Michael

*How much more of this pandering to these brown bludgers do we (taxpayers who pay for this rubbish) have to tolerate the nonsense from the Nats. No wonder so many are leaving the country, even decent thinking part-Maori have had a gutsful. Listen to your voters John Key - ignore them at your peril as we now have an alternative. Carolyn

*What tribe does the traitorous list MP Finlayson belong to? If he was employed by Ngai Tahu he is probably one of them. This piece of racist legislation MUSt be repealed. C'mon ACT, start making an issue of it. Graeme



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:20 pm 
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*Access to the foreshore and sea bed is the right and heritage of all people born in NZ. Finlayson is a disgrace to his fellow New Zealanders. Peter

*More power to your CIR, If only CIR's were binding! Robert

*The foreshore and coast should be for the enjoyment of everyone, regardless of race or creed. Karen

*It is an obscene piece of legislation. Dave

*It should indeed be repealed. As thousands of people have opposed the bill through submissions, clearly indicating that the majority are against it. I am wondering if it is at all possible, as a large group, to sue the government for wasting our valuable time? Many productive hours have been dedicated for nothing and mant people have lost income attending hearings with the Maori affairs committee and the little pathetic Finlayson himself. Karl

*The foreshore and seabed belong to all Kiwis. Maori want it for commercial gain. Ken

*And so should the Prime Minister, hopefully on November 27th. Jack

*It is getting near the time when we will have to roll up our sleeves, hoist the 'jolly roger', and start cutting throats! Brian

*Just yet another National party idea to suck in hard working kiwis gone wrong. Urga

*Such a waste of time and effort this continual righting the wrongs that should not have been perpetrated. Stuart

*It has ignored overwhelming opposition from NZers yet again!!!!!! Richard

*The beaches and coastlines are for ALL New Zealanders not a select few! Rosemary

*Access to NZ beaches and foreshore are the customary rights of all NZ'ers!!! Lynley

*It's about time all NZ'rs were treated equally under the law! Helen

*I am appalled that the National Government placed NZers in this terrible position. Pat

*Please refer to majority public opposition prior to a few biased, short-term politicians voting to pass it. Gordon

*One law for all ethnic groups. John

*I have had a gutsful of wimpish politicans who pander to racist Maoris. Pat

*I understand that since the act was passed Maori have been given part of Little Barrior Island. Has even Bird Sanctuaries been given away without our knowledge? Mary

*All Kiwis should be able to go to any beach anytime. Jeffrey

*This is the beginning of the end for average New Zealanders. It is the thin end of the wedge and I dread to think what things will be like in another generation.No part of our community should have the right to claim any customary title to our coastline. Diane

*We all knew this was going to start. National apparently had no idea. And they're in politics to look after all of us - even those of European descent. Fat chance! Jack

*Absolutely. Get rid of it tomorrow. Frank

*Absolutely yes...for all the reasons clearly set out in the latest newsletter and more. Audrey

*One law for all regardless. If part-maori demonstrate, have blockades, etc. cut the dole as they obviously aren't available to look for work. Carol

*As it has been stated, it belongs to us all, the Maori have been given enough. Roy

*The Maori's have no more entitlment to the beaches than the rest of New Zealanders. Sonia

*The present day Maori, can rightfully claim NO PART of any beach/coastal area whatsoever. Reason? The present day so-called Maori, are quite likely of more European blood than Maori !The apes who have started what amounts to the biggest SCAM in NZ's History should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, not just the Maori Party members but Mr. Key as well and all those who have supported this new Legislation. Eddie

*Coastline for al NZ's equally. Marie

*It's now or never - or we might risk a new period of Maori wars! Barrie

*National has an election to win. Labour has to please Maori to regain the their vote. Greens wish to go further in its doctrine to return New Zealand to a dreamlike pristine wilderness; thus gaining Maori as an ally. NZ First will want it repealed (they have no members and nothing to lose). Which leaves Act all alone in Parliament and unsupported by the New Zealand voter due to their ignorance of what this Marine & Coastal entails. We have lost the battle against this Bill. Whether we have the stomach to win the war is still uncertain. Brian



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*Yet again it appears that National will do anything to hold power. CIR would seem to be the only means to reign in rogue governments. David

*One Law for All. When I take my kids to the beach I WILL NOT be Paying for the Privilege!! Mark

*Is the attorney general thick or think we are. He holds a position of trust but he cannot be trusted. Ray

*A disastrous law, increasing divisdions in NZ. Rochelle

*It is for all New Zealand not just for those coloured bludgers. Ross

*Sadly I am beginning to believe that it is time the Treaty itself was dipped in concrete and biffed into the Ocean.....enough is enough. Bill

*This is the worst piece of legislation I have witnessed in my lifetime. Jan

*As far as I know all major governments in the world have vetoed similar bills - and with good reason. They know it is stupidity in the extreme and will cause more racism for that country. Chris

*Coastal land should belong to all NZers. Chris

*Title to our coastlines belongs to all New Zealanders. I am a New Zealander and want to be proud to be so. Dot

*All NZ ers should be able to access the beach, not a select few looking to make monetary gains. Matthew

*We are all New Zealanders and equal rights should be applied to all and this Act treats on group of citizens better than all others. George

*The act is a farce. When the average Kiwi discovers that their politicians have sold our birthright up the creak in secret deals to self serving Maori under the giuise of Maori custodianship; there will be a wedge driven between Maori and non Maori like never before seen. Tony

*Nats have betrayed N.Z. Jim

*Stop this seperatism. Ian

*This illconcieved legislation is an absolute disaster. It must be overturned to safeguard the integrity of our country. Brian

*Unbelievable we have to fight this what happen to democracy. Mary-Ann

*A monstrous injustice to any citizen who is not a Maori. Ronald

*Our coast line is for all NZ not just a small group who only want to split our country. Ken

*Of course. It should never have been implemented. National deserve to lose the election. Sheila

*This law provides a flagrant breach of our rights and opens a can of worms which Maori will exploit. Desmond

*It's becoming a nightmare of confrontation between our people. James

*It's appalling that there is privilege for one racial group above others. As you have experienced Muriel, folks who actually own harbourside margins are not allowed to do anything with their foreshore. Not even build a jetty. Ridiculous legislation that outlaws the construction of boatramps, jetties and wharves, pontoons etc. Preventing the most enjoyable recreational usage of our own land and foreshore. Damned stupid bureaucratic rubbish. Dianna

*Finlayson assured us all would be well. Yeah right! Patricia

*It should be repealed because it was not the will of the people in the first place. We were not listened to then and I wonder if we will ever be listened to by our so-called representatives again. Dorothy

*Absolutely. This was exactly the situation we feared however it was plainly obvious that Maori would take every advantage. David

*Coastal areas must be available for all, regardless of race. Maori have no special privilages over these areas and the National Government have let New Zealanders down badly with this legislation. David

*The coast should have free access for all to enjoy. Shane

*Give it a chance to work. Ron

*This is a travesty of Justice and a theft of our children's heritage for the IWI elite. Colleen

*The Maoris are immigrants just like everyone else, they are in my mind entitled to squat. This may be the start of the end of a beautiful country. New Zealanders get a spine. Aussies would not put up with this B....lshit. Anita

*This is the single most treacherous act of any govt. NZ has ever seen. John



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*About the only thing Queer helen did that was of some consequence for ALL New Zealanders was initiating & passing the Labour Govt's Foreshore & Seabed legislation which has been rescinded by this National ( Temporary Govt) lot. This WILL become an election issue & hopefully will herald the demise of the unholy Nat/Modi party alliance!!!! The first act of the new Govt should be the instant repeal of this racist & money grubbing legislation & bring back Labour's version. I'd even lower myself to vote for an Act/Labour coalition!!!!! Dave

*Marine & Coastal area belongs to all New Zealanders. It's utterly disgraceful that National completely ignored what majority of people were telling them. Shame on them. Lynda

*Try stopping me going surfing or shell fish gathering. Ron

*It is an outrage. An insult to New Zealanders. Deb

*NZ is in dire need of a Govt with the guts to stand up and legislate that the coast & seabed belongs to all NZ'ers, for eternity. If this is not done, there will be a major backlash from the majority of NZ'ers and it won't be pretty. Bruce

*Of course it should be repealed. But it is the racist maori seats in parliament that has caused the problem in the first place. If the maori party did not have these racist seats the Key government would not have felt the need to deal with them. All New Zealanders should be equal under the law! John

*Dear Lord, When will this madness end? Marnie

*We could see that this was going to happen and I hope Mr. Finlyson is feeling queasy about his decisions. Judith

*National is NOT for the people. Get rid of MMP we might stand a chance by not having all Nat's cronies in Parliament.
We would also save a lot of money with less MP's, Freebies and everything else ONLY MP's can claim. Brian

*Should be for ALL New Zealanders. Catherine

*Govt had enough feedback to know that MANY ordinary NZers were not happy with this legislation but in their pigheaded way they pushed it through - deception and all!! What we see happening already gives us cause for alarm. John Key sure deserved the nickname from his past business and add to it 'silver toungued'. Maureen

*The forshore & seabed should belong to all New Zealanders. Bette

*This stupid bill is Pandora's Box which will divide New Zealanders for generations to come. Aparthied didn't work in South Africa; reverse racism here will not bring peace and prosperity here either. Duncan

*Have the maori had enough land given back to them. Maria

*Let the Maoris have it. And we know the rest of NZ will be paying for the upkeep etc. Muriel and all others tried so hard to warn NZ this would happen, I also tried. No one gave a care in the world. Now it is about to happen and I say I am over trying to tell dumb New Zealanders, which seems to be most of them, what the consequences would be if this bill was allowed to go ahead. We now have NZ the way most seem to want it. I really dont care anymore. I go to the Gold Coast for my holidays so it will not affect me at all. I did donate towards stopping it but I really feel that with Key being the Golden boy of the moment the people in NZ are a bunch of stupid fools. So, all you hard workers, just let it go, you are far too good a people to be fighting for the rights of people who live from day to day and really dont care what happens in their country. Let them now put up with what they are about to get. Chris

*A grave transgression of the rights of all New Zealanders, in favor of the few, who in past years used warfare to take off others what they now feel so entitled and privelidged to possess now! Peter

*This is a result of MMP. Chris Finlayson is a list MP and yet he has such enormous power. I will be voting First Past Post. MMP is a disaster for NZ as it allows this type of thing to happen. I say "Lets all declare ourselves to be Maori, after all if you feel like being one you can be one". I consider myself to be an indigenous NZer so from now on I am one. Most of these Maoris look like me so there is not a problem. Clive

*This current system stinks of apartheid. Terrence

*The sooner the better. Mike

*This Act was blatantly racist and stupid from the start. I say throw it out and the stupid minister with it. Peter

*ONE COUNTRY, ONE PEOPLE, ONE LAW. THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE AND THAT'S THE HUMAN RACE. Kristen

*Absolutely, positively, YES! One has to wonder about Finlayson. We know he was not elected into gummint - as if! So who placed him there - and why? He bears no semblance of being a typical "National" pollie. (But there again, how many are?) Indeed, from what we see of him, he ought to be on the Maori roll. You have to wonder if he is "in their pocket" - surely not? What is very clear is that he is either totally naive, stupid and mischievous, or cynically using his position to advance Maori interests for who knows what reason. Ron

*The only surprise in all of this is that it took a couple of months before rumour chrystallised and evidence of Maori intentions surfaced. Come on Don Brash, its time to start campaining on Maori issues. Maurice

*This is the final straw and may well be the beginning of the end. There will be rebellion in this land. The MORIES are being allowed to milk this country dry by each successive government & Yes - I do mean MORIES It's what many of us call them now as they are always holding out there hands for MORE and MORE. Mollie

*Most definitely. What is the government trying to do - incite people when their birthright is taken from them. Debbie

*I am sick to death with racist policies which are divisionary. I am for a nation that treats everyone equally. One people one nation. Any legislation that encompasses apartheid is destructive to the nations future. John

*Absolutely. The right for any group to claim ownership of a beach is nonsense. In the Maori case it is in breach of the Treaty of Waitangi. John

*What will be the next area for this treatment? Repeal, and make this election a referendum. Vote Act. Simple really. David

*It would appear that my worst fears about this bad legislation are about to come true. Murray

*It will not surprise me when people take up arms over all this racist BS that the Maori radicals are stirring up. Phil

*Absolutely. It is bad legislation and it increases the sense of grievance and divides society. NZ simply cannot afford to distract itself with such internal issues and needs to come together as one country. John

*This National Government has committed an heinous crime in putting the seabed and foreshore bill through parliament against a lot of people's wishes. They deserve to be voted out in the next election, c'mon every body vote against National, they are thieves against ordinary N.Z.'s. Frank



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*The quicker the better!! Jim

*No question, and the sooner the better! Once the gravy train is loaded up again with hungry iwi it will take a lotto stop it in our prevailing PC political system and more pressure to stop it. No use relying on Smiley John or his little henchman, Tiny Christopher! We must try and embarrass them somehow!And a big black mark to a gutless National Party. Frank

*Never should have been countenanced in the first place. One law for all. Chris

*Beaches belong to everyone. Ian

*The National Party had neither a mandate or a right to either consider or enact this Legislation. Peter

*I am starting to wonder why I voted National!! Ian

*The coastline and use of belongs to all new zealanders equally so we HAVE to get this ACT reversed. Bruce

*The act's existence along with all the other race based legislation is leading us at ever increasing speed, down the road to civil war. Our system of government is a sham. Many of our politicians are guilty of treason and yet we have no way of stopping them from destroying our nation, once they are in office. BCIR is an immediate crucial step that we must take to rein in these dangerous UN driven sociopaths. Ultimately, a constitutional republic, based on personal responsibility and liberty would be great. However, the sad reality is that most "Kiwi's" have now been conditioned to fear the state, to the point where like a frightened dog they cower with their tails between their legs, roll over and wet themselves, at any sign of authority. Come on New Zealand, wake up! Rise up!!! Robert

*Unbelievable. Apartheid in NZ. Illegal!!!!!! Lee

*Sick of this racist bullshit in NZ, makes you feel like an outsider in the country you were born. Ross

*New Zealand is for every New Zealand not a select few determined by a Government. TN

*It is a bloody disaster. Barry

*It is absolutely frightening that the Govt as allowed this to happen. Mal

*It must be repealed. If not, all NZers must boycott all business owned by Maori. Vic.

*"Yes" a thousand times. This bill and its consequences for the future of NZ will be a disaster if not repealed. Phil

*This new law is the most unjust piece of legislation ever pushed upon the public of New Zealand. It must be stopped by whatever means we can use to change the head in the sand attitude of the idiotic National Party. Ernest

*Absolutely before Maori claim success as there will be no stopping their greed. Lawrie

*It should never have been passed. It is rascist and unfair. Lynne

*Of course it should, but it's too late now - the new gravy train is leaving the station and all the usual travellers are on board. Gary

*Equality for all, no race based legislation. Kerry

*Absolutely. Cannot believe that the National Party are so idiotic as to want to give away our birthright. Josie

*Of course it should - it's a racist piece of nonsense that will split this country apart - wait until the first boaties start getting charged and watch for the violence to begin. Getting it repealed - fat chance - brace yourselves - if you're not Maori or even with the most minute bit of Maori background you've now become second or third class citizens in your own country. My part Maori grand kids now can tell me to get off the local beach if they want to! They have more rights than I do just because of their partial ethnicity - in my opinion that's apartheid - congratulations to National and Maori Parties - we are now South Africa in the 60's. Grant

*And all referendem should be binding. Richard

*No brainer. Roger

*Deeply disturbing. Brett

*I told the Nats they would lose my vote over this issue. Richard

*The Law is racist - We are all New Zealanders and the coastline should be available to all and give one. Con

*The present law is totally against all the principles of westminster government. David

*The government must be mad. Noel

*This hair-brained legislation must be repealed before it ultimately leads to civil war. I cannot believe that so called intelligent people such as Key and Findlayson could be so bloody naive and stupid as to thinking this would solve anything. Enough..vote the bastards out before they give the whole lot away. Pete

*An absolute minefield of legislation. Betty

*I am shocked, Maori are putting claims together for popular beaches, didn't see that coming. John

*This National government will give Maori anything to stay in power. Les

*It is very wrong to let so called Maori take over New Zealand. Elsie

*I am stunned at our utter stupidity. I want to know what it is that we wanted in return for giving away our beaches. Colleen

*As a national party voter all my life - I am appalled at this move by the national party and have already e-mailed John Key-I've had no reply as yet. Robbie

*This act is totally undemocratic, and totally racist in its conception. James

*Lets hope from the next election we get people who will tranform NZ to the place it used to be with out any hand outs. Geoff



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*It was a gross error or a deliberate betrayal of trust by a tyrant not a democratic Prime Minister. John Key stepped back into Medieval politics. James

*Not a well thought out piece of legislation. In the past I have driven my car up Mt Tarawera and scuba dived in Pupu Springs, now both are restricted. How long before skiing, hunting and tramping is affected by this Waitangi industry? David

*How dare the government impose this racist legislation on New Zealanders! I reckon they should all be held up for treason! Shirley

*Along with a host of other race based laws, special tax concessions for Maori groups and so on! One can only hope that the elections bring some reality to John Key, but a change in Government is not going to bring a change in the racial division that is steady ramping up here. Do we pray for Don to sweep all before him and take the election single handed? Hugh

*We are ALL New Zealanders. This will create apartheid and once again sees the Maoris wanting to be more than equal. Alison

*I made a submission to the Select Committee - and recommended that the Law not be changed. I also warned about likely impact on beaches by "certain" groups, if the legislation was enacted. Peter

*Unless this is achieved, we will see blood in the streets. It must not be allowed to gain traction. Kenneth

*Yes, of course, no doubt the greediness and "we want more money" will follow. John

*Absolutely and the sooner the better. It is a sad reflection on human nature that a group of so called intelligent people (politicians) can ceed a sovereign right of the majority to a minority. This foreshore and seabed issue will eventually have only one outcome. As I have said before, pakeha will rise up and take back what rightfully belongs to the country. Probably aided by maori who have been disenfranchised by their own masters. On the other hand, we really can't blame maori for taking the path they have, after all we taught them how to do things. Ray

*Of course it should be repealed, it was passed without mandate and all that has happened is that about 2,000,000 'muppets' just sit around and moan about it. We certainly need a binding CIR, trouble is we all try to do things legally and peacefully and Keys knows this; result .... he just smiles and “carries on carrying on”. If marches and protests aren’t the answer then maybe what we need is a well thought out legal attack, ie ... lay an official charge of Treason on John Key, Chris Finlayson and co. Perhaps our treacherous, lying, conniving, baby kissing PM wouldn't be quite so smug then. Tony

*Absolutely and irrevocably. Sonia

*Most definately, it should never had been allowed to get through, good on you for fighting it,---keep it up. Peter

*It should never have introduced in the first place. Kim

*It's about time all referendums voted on by the people became binding instead of just a show piece to stall us. Politicians must learn that parliament is not somewhere for them to exercice their inflated egos. 120 MPS at least half would stuggle in the real world if they made decisions like this. But then where else can you blow up your self important ego for 9yr's and retire with perks and not give a rats where you you leave the majority of NZ who have said no to decisions that even a illiterate ludite can see is wrong. John

*NZ beaches should have free access to all New Zealanders in perpetuity. Mike

*It is an insidious piece of legislation that proves yet again, that politicians do NOT represent the wishes of the majority, just their own ego's and desire to get their name into the history books. National will not even get my Party Vote this year, the traitors! Vic

*It was against the majority when brought in. Elsa

*Maybe the average person out there is not really aware of whats really going on as our daily tasks take over, more marketing for info? Elaine

*About the only time most people agreed with Helen Clark and the Labour Party is when they insisted that our beaches and forshore remain publicly owned,so yes repeal this current legislation immediately. Gavin

*This bill is one of the worst ever created by any Govt. I fear for the next generations of Kiwi's if this is how we run our country. Gary

*It's a disgrace. Robert

*Ironical that Maori apartheid gains momentum. Richard

*Foolishly we've put Maori on a pedestal as an elitist group! Let's support Don Brash with ACT and get back to one law for all. We should totally eliminate retroactively all favoured treatment for Maori. They've turned grievance into greed! Tony

*oh yay... As if that's going to happen under the national government led by Mr Wimp himself: John Key... But, in reality, repeal is not enough. The legislation needs to be un"enacted" and removed completely from our law books. Finlayson and Key need to start listening to the growing dissent and outrage amongst the populace that pay their EXORBITANT salaries... Mark


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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - POPULAR BEACHES TARGETED FOR CLAIMS 290511
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:33 pm 
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This week's poll asks:

Do you believe the Marine and Coastal Area Act should be repealed?


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*If it is not repealed you can bet your bottom dollar that you have not seen the ends to where the greed of the Maori tribes will lead. EJ

*If parliament was passing legislation for years assuming That Customary Rights have always existed, and we recently discover that this isn't true, where were all the lawyers and historians who ought to have been advising the government and seriously informing the public? Paul

*This outcome was (is) so obvious. Ian

*A disgrace in the making. Giles

*National said such claims for popular beaches wouldn't happen. Were they lying about the whole thing. It is shocking what's going on. Jenny

*Why oh why did it get to this. The National govt now need to come clean and make the referendum binding. One last chance to dump this stupid law. Tim

*I believe for future harmony a great deal depends on this process being managed to ensure that the final decision is the result of considered and informed discussion with factional interests taking a back seat. In my lifetime I have seen a drift from collective cooperation to individual and group competition - beware of the media massaging the divisive potential of this situation! Barry

*It's apartheid, pure and simple. Kerry

*The government has completely hoodwinked the nation - the majority are blissfully unaware of the changes that will come about as a result of this law change & it is totally unacceptabel in a (so called) democratic society. Catherine

*These are there for all New Zealanders NOT just Maori, we are one people they should think about we are not the enemy. Letitia

*Why does mainstream media not feature this and why is Act silent?? Lawrie

*All NewZealanders are equal. What is with the reverse racism agenda. Grant

*The first time in my life I will be voting against the National government - this one act warrants it and I'll take my Whanau with me. Philip

*We are getting like South Africa in reverse. Brett

*It does not take into account the usage by the majority of NZ. Sandra

*The Marine and Coastal Area Act is legislation gone mad all in the interests of wooing the Maori vote. New Zealand is a small country which seriously needs unity not division. Bring on the C.I.R.! Ian

*I often wonder where the term "customary title" came into the frame - I would have thought "customary use" would have been correct - i.e. no question of title! Stephen

*It promotes a whole new grievance industry and "gravy train". Glenn

*If we are to be one people then we are to have one country for all. Bryan



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - 290511
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Excellent speech to Grey Power, Muriel - and yes, referenda should be binding. It is the only true democratic safeguard.

I am sick and tired of politicians ramming through laws like the foreshore bill that are only designed to advantage one sector of society - at an enormous cost to everyone else.

I still can't believe that National pushed this through. It is such a betrayal.

Chris Finlayson must bear most of the responsibility - but the others let him do what he wanted.

But Finlayson never cared one iota about the rights of the public. He was only ever focussed on how much he could rip us off to give as much as he could to Maori.

All those years of working for Ngai Tahu have clearly made him think that Maori are right and everyone else is wrong.

I wish National MPs had had the fortitude to reign him im.

Problem is they are all gutless, so it rests on the shoulders of the public. But we need a mechanism to reign in rogue MPs and parties that have gone off the rails. Binding referenda is the only way that I can see it happening.

But where are the advocates for this? We need politicians to adopt the cause as their own.

Are there any out there?


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 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - POPULAR BEACHES TARGETED FOR CLAIMS 290511
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*Absolutely the Act should be repealed. It should never have been passed int the first place without a public mandate. Tim

*The Marine Act will just become a massive land grab by Maori. It is disgusting that National is allowing this to happen. Chris Finlayson should be dumped. But they are riding so high in the polls that I don't think they care how much they harm New Zealand. Sandra

*It makes me feel sick just to read how the greedy tribes are rushing in to get their hands on our property. It is OUR coast and that's the way it should stay. I just wish referenda were binding now! Gordon

*Of course the Act should be repealed. But I'm not convinced National would agree to it even if the public came out strongly opposed to the new law. We definitely need binding CIR. Andrew

*What a shame National is riding so high in the polls. They should have been punished for passing the Marine Bill but nothing appears to dent their popularity. It is quite extraordinary really! Caroline


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