NZ Centre for Political Research

Because hopefully Seymour, the people have woken up to Key and Finlayson, thrown out
the National Government and elected a Government that will listen to all the people of New
Zealand and not just the Maori Party. Even a minor Party with a large majority of Party
Votes could gain the balance of power after November.

Don't waste your party vote - think about it, it could make the difference and put the
power back in our hands!

Seymour - don't forget that if people gave up because the task looked to be insurmountable
women would still not have the vote!

In a democracy you have to keep challenging the government if they are doing the wrong
thing. You have to tell them what the people think.

And yes, they might ignore us but it will not escape them that by ignoring the referendum
they would be upsetting vast numbers of voters - during a term where the shine might well
have fallen off National and they might well be feeling electorally vulnerable.

So don't give up and do nothing - join in the fight!

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*Why is it those bludging Iwi trusts with all that tax payer pay outs can't help their own people? With Christchurch and everything,these hand overs and pay outs need to STOP!!! Glenn

*And the result needs to be binding, otherwise this whole exercise is farcical. What the hell makes J. Key & C. Finlayson think the Maori party will be back in Parl? These Maori seats need to be the first to go in the electoral referendum.
I won't be voting National until MCA Act is repealed ie:party or electorate. Monica

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*2011 Act will lead to decades of devisive agrivation to race relations. Jim

*The rot that pervades NZ has to be stopped. Gary

*We must look after this for every citizen of New Zealand regardless of race. Arthur

*IF Modi's were in fact indigenous to NZ like the Moa, Weka & Kiwi, & NOT immigrants just like our forebears (we came from Pomgolia & Europe, they have been DNA'd to Sthn Asia (Taiwan etc) AND if they were FULL blooded Modi's & not struggling to attain 1/32nd or less Modi ancestry, AND they could prove continual occupation of a stretch of coastline in front of a properly constituted public court (& not a kangaroo Waitangi type setup!!) I MIGHT be persuaded to allow them some preferential use of a small stretch of our coastline for their "cultural purposes". BUT defintely not for exclusive raping & plundering of undersized crays, paua, mussels, & kina etc !!!! NOR exclusive royalties on minerals etc out to 200 miles!!!! Modi's are more european than they were in the 1800's & as such they are NZ'ers just like the rest of us!!!! I say NO to exclusive access/use of publicly owned resources AND NO bloody apartheid in NZ while I'm still breathing!!!! Dave

*Maori have been handed so many of the assets of this country to either leave them to go to waste (Raglan Golf Club) or utilising the assets off shore. When are they going to look forward and help their own people to lead constructive useful lives instead of seating on a benefit wasting their skills and their lives. Jean

*Yes, for future generations I would like to see the foreshore and seabed ownership back under crown ownership. Corrin

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*The racist legislation should be withdrawn. However let not replace it with something worse. Just repeal the present legislation to return to the status quo as before the Labour legislation. That is return to common law. Michael

*NZ coastline, and seabeds need to stay in Crown ownership for the good of all NZers. Cathleen

*Very important to give this government the message! Antony

*As said we cannot allow this or any government gift this most precious human right to the most millitant racist group in our society. Craig

*Absolutely if NZ's do not want a civil war in 10 15 years time - serious. Richard

*Yes, but I'm not holding my breath - neither will I be voting for any political party again. Until we have the plebiscite that we should have had when we finally became independent from Britain nothing will change - it will be business as usual and our Parliamentary Dictatorship will continue until we realise that sovereignty devolved on to we the people who should have been enabled to determine the laws and system that we wished to be governed under. Until then this governmental farce will carry on in one form or another. Scott & Oriole

*Will be prepared to promote this and get signatures. Trevor

*I'd support this and pledge some money if it is a binding referendum. Keen on your cause, just sick of all the hoo haa of a referendum that won't stick! Chris

*The Foreshore and Seabed belongs to the people of New Zealand, that means everybody particularly those who were born here. Maori have manipulated the Treaty of Waitangi to solicit Government money to which they were not entitled and now they are manipulating the Government with MMP for whatever they can get. This is racism which has produced an ugly division. Peter

*Our coastal area must be available to all our people. Col

*It's the only way everyone will have equal access to the foreshore and seabed. Sandra

*I know it would be like the anti smacking referendum. It will pass overwhelmingly. Hopefully John Key will be out of office by November. Jack

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*As I have repeatedly stated, this racist, separatist piece of legislation is an abomination. It should be abolished immediately and consigned to the rubbish bin where it belongs. Allan

*It would be a better position for all, even if it does require further revision in the future. Peter

*This would be a much improved law. Barry

*Don't let the bloody Maoris get away with tis. No one owns the land, we are just borrowing it for a while. Graham

*Kawhia, Aotea and probably Raglan Harbours will all be Maori owned. Laurie

*Seabed and Foreshore for all New Zealanders forever. Dominic

*Race Based Theft of mine and my decendants birth right. My Grandfathers fought and died for freedom and equal rights for all - how easily we forget!! Mark

*The government has cosied up to the Maori Party to make a backroom deal in order to stay in power, rather than what is right and good for the whole country. Will they listen to the people? I'm not holding my breath! Duncan

*It must go ahead. I will do everything I can to make it a success. Ronmac

*All I have to say is: As long as the citizens of this country are not demanding a referendum based government (like Switzerland, which runs this system since the 1400's sucessfully) we will see political crap like that going down again and again. This country is run into the ground systematically by a small but utterly ruthless band with nothing but their own interests in mind. Because they can under the present 'system'. Michael

*I am more than willing to give my support and to collect for the referrendum. I can't afford any cash, unless of course lotto comes my way, then I would put up the whole 50K. This referrendum must go ahead. Neil

*Difficult times but thats their plan. Existing legislation is an insult to all the people of NZ. Simon

*Emphatically YES. Now that arrogant trouble-maker Hone Harawira has donned his feather Boa (how fitting for what he is - a parrot sitting on his mummy's shoulder) he'll be making a host more wild claims. Incidentally - we know a pile of birds must have perished for that cloak - why aren't the Greens and Forest and Birds raising a protest? Also - in November, the electorate must make good use of a few barrels of tar to glue those feathers permanently to him. Ron

*The claim for the manukau harbour will be made public in July as I have heard. The hearings were heard approx 8 years ago. If you did not object it is definately to late. Arthur

*This country is heading down the path of racism against all except Maori who try to use a historical document for their continual gain. Treat the Treaty as an agreement from the past which has little relevance to our generation. Alan

*Lets bring in a Maori threshold, you must be at least 50% Maori in order to receive priveleges based on race. Nigel

*Can the referenda be more positive, demanding? Rather than should could it not read the marine and coastal act (Takutai Moana) "must" be replaced by legislation etc. Barry

*If any person is stopped from going onto a Beach at any time the first person to contact is John Key then Chris Finlyson & ask them to come & sort out your Right to go onto the Beach. Geoff

*I want to see that my grandchildren and great grandchildren have the same outdoor experience as I had which I feel is the right of every nz'er not just early settlers. David

*The foreshore & seabed belong to all New Zealanders. The only way to preserve this status is for the crown to take ownership. John

*These boundaries belong to all of us unless privately owned. Marian

*The prospect of all the tremendous work involved in collecting the required signatures, and then corrupt politicians (is there any other kind ) ignoring result is all too real given the demonstrated result of others. Binding referenda is a must. If the Swiss can govern successfully with binding referenda why can't we. We could but crooked politicians fear an electorate with power. They are by their very nature, traitors, so will fight any return to a true operative democracy. Gerald

*One rule for all in NZ is the only way. Barry

*Of course I would like to see the Citizens' Initiated Referendum (CIR) go ahead and I have offered to help as a volunteer to get the referendum paper out to the public. Now you, Muriel, are saying it won't get off the ground unless you receive a heap of money. I know these activities cost money, and also a heck of a lot of your time and energy and the time and energy of others, and I'd love to help financially also but I cannot. It is also obvious that because, on past performance, the government is unlikely to take the slightest notice of the CIR the exercise will be a waste of time as well as expensive. Why not tackle this another way: Make the issue as publicly known as possible. It is NOT REALLY KNOWN ABOUT OR UNDERSTOOD BY ORDINARY CITIZENS. Since the popular media have not complained, the great bulk of ordinary Kiwis have simply never heard of the foreshore and seabed scam. Go ahead and ask six people at random in Lambton Quay what the Act is and what it will mean. My bet is you will get a blank stare. But, having made the situation known publicly, we should let the part-Maori "iwi" get right on with appropriating Ninety Mile Beach and all that other stuff and just wait for the outrage to boil over. If justice is not organised now by those who have been elected to provide it they will reap the whirlwind. There happens to be at least ten of "us" to each one of "them." If we have a really informed public the problem will sort itself out. Rob

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*Although I think most New Zealanders would like to believe that we are all equal under the law, I also think that they are easily led to accept separatism by politicians and others pushing one of the following buttons :– They were here first – they are brown – they are poor – they have a higher crime rate so someone else must be responsible – their culture is better others. For these reasons I think it will be very difficult to restore the foreshore and seabed to all New Zealanders. John

*We have got to make the National Government see sense and restore ownwership of all foreshore and seabed to the Crown. If we do not do this you will all have to pay to visit the beach. Maori will grow richer with Treaty payments and claims for anything from which they can gain a dollar. If we do not stop them now we may as well all pack up and leave New Zealand. Ernest

*Absolutely. What is wrong with this country? Our governments are determined to create problems where none existed before. Josie

*The worst legislation in N.Z history. Of dividing a lovely country. Terry

*Absolutely and as soon as possible, although I can't see our left wing press allowing this to become an election issue. Dave

*Article 3. Maori are to be given the "same" rights as the people of England. George

*Unfortunately poll results indicate average joe NZer is happy with current govt performance so difficult to forsee any change, and Key doesn't care anyway because if he loses next election he is back to his old job. John

*The current Bill is racist in the extreme. Donkey would sell his own mother for a vote. Bruce

*No one should OWN the beaches and seabed. Lindsay

*Political speak and non decisions by Key will lose him the November election. John

*The passing of The marine and coastal area legislation was a dark day in NZ history. We now have an uncontested dictator in charge of our country. Malcolm

*Citizens' Initiated Referendums or Referenda mean government by hysteria. K

*It is completely outrageous--but John Key smugly says--people won't change their vote for it.--I fear he's right. Jenny

*Of course, but will it ever happen? Never! both Labour & National follow blindly the dictates of the U.N., on the "Rights of Indigenous Peoples". Which Key signed on our behalf without a vote from us. Radical Maori followed by non-radical have the Promised Land in their sights. For the rest of us we resemble the defeated Saxons after the Norman invasion of 1066. Brian

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*Absolutely YES ……… Everyone that cares about “keeping all of the the foreshore and seabed as our playgrounds forever” ought to get behind this and make it the quickest 400,000 signatures ever collected. This might show our PM, Mr Smiley (but Dangerous) that a whole bunch of Kiwi’s really do care and that if he doesn’t start listening to us, come November he will find himself paying for his own airfares, hotels, dinners, entertainment and taxis. Tony

*It was completely arrogant of National, and Key and Finlayson in particular to ram the legislation through the House. I am disgusted National have been so gutless over this - not to mention all the other pandering to Maori/M Party that has characterised their term in government. Frank

*That would be the ideal result so that the replacement legislation made it clear that it was always to remain that way...in the hands of the Crown for the benefit of ALL NEW ZEALANDERS. Audrey

*I vote yes because the foreshore and seabed should be for all new zealanders and not a select few.Also sick of the dirty politics of the present government. John

*2 questions. Can you please define who is a Maori. My European ancestors arrived in 1842. I want compensation for all the work they have put into N.Z and has been given to Maori, how do I achieve this? Elva

*Let's not live in the past. No more division. We are one - we all need to live together and make it WORK not using race, creed, nationality or gender to divide us. It IS the only way. Sue

*The foreshore and seabed should be owned by the Crown for all New Zealanders to enjoy not a select few. Gayle

*I am a 5th generation NZer Our air,our sea and beaches belong to all NZ's. Jackie

*It will be a sad day for "New Zealanders" if this does nbot happen!! Alan

*If we fail to succeed in this endeavor, New Zealand will become another degenerate apartheid state. Kenneth

*Coastal areas belong to all us kiwi's. Kelvin

*The very best of luck. Rod

*A lot of money is being wasted because this Prime Minister breaks his promises. How is he reducing the debt for instance? Mary

*Maori greed has to be stopped. Jim

This week's poll asks:

Would you like to see the CIR asking, “Should the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 be be replaced by legislation that restores Crown ownership of the foreshore and seabed”, go ahead?

*Absolutely - the referendum needs to go ahead and the government needs to be told by the public in no uncertain terms how wrong they were to sell out our coast to the Maori sovereignty movement. Clare

*Yes, yes, yes - go for it with the CIR! We are right behind you - and I have made a pledge too! Graham

*The foreshore and seabed should never have been privatised. It is outrageous what National has done. I can't understand why they are staying so popular when they have ripped the public off in such a massive way. Jim

*The claims being made by iwi for popular beaches is just the start. You wait - the floodgates will open and the claims will be everywhere. What a disaster this whole thing is. And yes, the referendum must go ahead - it's the only way to fight back. Debra

*Absolutely, no question, its probably better to fight the fight now than on the beaches, which is what will happen eventually. Ray

*The seabed and foreshore rightfully belong to Maori! We should be honouring the treaty. Viv

*The foreshore and seabed never belonged to Maori tribes - it was all just a common area. So why the heck has National created a new ownership title for them. It will create a new claims industry. It is madness. Nigel