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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - RADICAL FORCES SHAPE OUR FUTURE 100711
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:10 pm 
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Would you like to see the Green Party as a coalition partner in a National-led government?


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*Our inefficient, carbon-based energy economy threatens to irreversibly disrupt the Earth's climate. Averting dangerous climate change and the resultant crop-shrinking heat waves, more-destructive storms, accelerated sea level rise, and waves of climate refugees means cutting carbon emissions 80 percent by 2020. This is more likely to happen with the Greens in coalition. Brian

*With Labour appearing more and more loony as well as National, I think dementia is seeping in to the Beehive. I think Guy Fawkes could provide an effective solution to this insanity. Christopher

*Like the maori party, the greens are just as dangerous as a minority party with a balance of power "big stick" and an over inflated air of self importance. Neil

*Tories and communists in "coalition'? ridiculous. Unstable and dangerous to us all. Gordon

*National is radical enough without adding more mania to the mix. Michael

*National don't believe in green party policy & would twist any policy to suit themselves. Barry

*Definitely NO. I am appalled at the suggestion but then nothing surprises me. Particularly as National after having won the last election and could carry on governing with ACT chose to, with the mandate of the its voters elected to govern with Maori...what a huge mistake...look what has happened since then..I have always voted National but thought that maybe Labour would be the next best way to go...now look what their policies are...what a terrible lot of people working to supposedly protect this country's people...a disaster ..to go with the Greens would be even more disastrous...what other avenues do we have? Go with Labour and its policies after the previous 10yrs of Helen Clark through our most profitable times to a poverty level country..now National giving away to an elite few all other wealth...the Greens would only stullify our lives..No No way would I want to go with the Greens..so where to from here...Help is needed fast and not from the Greens or maori, please. Audrey

*The radical parties should not have say without sufficient support. The radicalism of a few now dictates decisions that affect the majority. It's ridiculous. Colleen

*Coalition with the Greens will just hasten the downfall of NZ. Barbara

*While some radical approaches can have the effect of shaking the establishment out of a rut, there still lies the danger of the tail wagging the dog through the undue influence accorded by MMP and the Green movement under the new leadership has yet to show just how far it is prepared to go to achieve it's own agenda. Maurice

*I can understand green policies but not radicallism. Steve

*The mind boggles at how far this current National Party has sunk in shuch a short time! Maureen

*Absolutely NO, time to vote ACT. Ian

*No isn't strong enough. Allow me to say Hell No! Graham

*Words Fail Me. Colin

*Any party that does not favour one people,and is for New Zealanders. Daniel

*No way!! Green on the outside and Red hidden inside!! John

*I also believe that National does not deserve to be re-elected, but the problem is, who to vote for?
Labour is the Tax and Squander govt.
National is too involved with apartheid.
The Greens would be a total disaster.
The Maori and Mana parties are only interested in even more special privileges for Maori.
I am not sure about N.Z. First, so this leaves only ACT for me to vote for.
I have been a life time supporter of National and have voted for them for more than 50 years. Thanks to Smith, Finlayson and Key I have been disillusioned enough to never vote for them again.
I also believe that M.M.P. has turned out to be a disaster. Ray

*They're not green, they're pinkos. Rod

*No way, imagaine what it would cost to live if that mob had any say. Murray

*Don't trust national greens should not go as coalition it will sell the soul of the party to the devil in sheep's clothes. Mary-Ann

*They would be worse than Labour. Karl

*I would sooner have National in opposition then have them form a Govt. with the Greens. Lynn

*Extremists have more than enough say already. John

*Mind you, it's no dumber than cosying up with the maori party. John

*Some members of the Green Party are unrealistic in their thinking - eg.no control of mangroves. Mary

*Green is only a colour,with other actions and agenda that are not whollytrue to the N.Z ethic..if you can find it! Jane

*No way, but most of us would have thought that about the Maori Party before Smiley John did a deal with them! I might almost prefer Winston First!! Frank

*No way - nor the Maori Party again! Barrie

*We would not wish to see the greens in any government, irrespective of its colour. Extreme socilaists are very, very dangerous. Peter

*I couldn't think of anything worse. Hugh

*I was hoping the Green Party would get under 5% party vote this election. We don't need their mad regulations. Monica

*If the Maori party can then the greens can. Damian

*This is one of the disadvantages of MMP! Minor parties get sucked in by the promise of governing power. Wayne

*For a long time now I had the impression that the Green Party is totally undermined by people who are not living in the real world anymore (ie Sue Bradford and her Anti Smacking bill) and are in reality very fascistic in their approaches to apply their ways of thinking. What we need in this country is a 'politically incorrect'party who is calling a spade a spade and is able to be a real voice for all the New Zealanders who are really concerned about this country. Michael

*God no green party means more tax & more control in our private lives. Nigel

*They must be crazy when we know most of the greens are red blooded socialist/communists. David



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - RADICAL FORCES SHAPE OUR FUTURE 100711
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:15 pm 
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*The two should not be compatable politically. Sue

*No! Definately not. Their previous track record shows what a distorted view they have on every day affairs and I suggest that the majority of thinking people would agree that they, (The Greens) would be better playing in the sand pit where what ever they decided to favour does the minimum of damage to practical common sense. Noel.

*Those dead-beats would have us back to the dark ages at the "drop of a hat". John

*Most greens are insane extremists. God help us all if they are taken in to Government as Coalition Partners who need to be bribed. It is high time that property owners took back their property rights and told the Council and Government to sod off. Dianna

*We object to flakey radicals in Parliament. John & Hanneke

*They would be worse than the maori party and that would be saying something!! Noela

*Would be returning godzone to the stoneage and making homosapien a second-rate species. Andy

*Heaven forbid! Desmond

*As with all minority parties - no. The rorting and the compromise renders the political process akin to a lottery. Oh, for a preferential voting system so that these practices are less likely and the voting can be based on clear and transparent policies. Bruce

*Eco-communists. Graham

*As with all minority parties - no. The rorting and the compromise renders the political process akin to a lottery. Oh, for a preferential voting system so that these practices are less likely and the voting can be based on clear and transparent policies. Bruce

*Too one-eyes on natural resources. Graham

*To communistic and supporters of apartheid NZ. George

*Definitely time to shuffle off this Planet if that happened. Albyn

*Unworkable partnership. I do NOT support Green policies.. Donald

*I wouldn't like to see them in any form of coalition with any Govt. I also have the same sentiment for both maori parties. Grahame

*Greens are just reds who are to gutless to fly their real colours. John

*They don't know how to govern & would be too gun ho radical. Simon

*The "Green" party wants 5% of the votes and 100% of the power. Their answer to almost every situation is yet another tax. Donald

*Does National actually have ANY principles at all? Roger

*While I appreciate their sensitivities to certain ecological/environmental issues, I'm very uncomfortable with most of their extremism. Tony

*Green party only good at killing off jobs. Cheryl

*Definitely not, bad enough National in power! Out with the Greens and Maori party? Bert

*I will not be voting for MMP for that very reason amongst others! June

*No Way, am not satisfied with National as it is, the green's will make matters worse. Theo

*Absolutely not. They are a fringe group with outlandish ideas which are sometimes detrimental to a majority this country's people, resources and businesses. National has already gone too far with the Maori Party for the sake of political gain. Laurence

*Nor the Maori Party! Nigel



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - RADICAL FORCES SHAPE OUR FUTURE 100711
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:27 pm 
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Would you like to see the Green Party as a coalition partner in a National-led government?


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*Always been a labour voter until greens became coalition partner and had too much say. Ngaire

*The Greens do not belong in Parliament - they have not won a seat so are not representative. They are self-serving people who have not held down real jobs. They lack morals and should not be part of any governing system. Glenn

*Green in name only, red to the core. Wayne

*Greens wanting to tax companies and therefore the public for use of carbon fuels,when they stop driving there cars & buying rubber & plastic items etc, then I may listen to them more. Talk the talk then they should walk the walk. Grant

*The Green party has a few good ideas, but a lot of Red radicals running it. National has lost its way. They are out of step with public opinion. Peter

*It could only result in another example of the tail wagging the dog. Peter

*Greens are neurotics and not balanced. Laura

*Like hell we have to many people who run with the hares and hunt with the hounds, stuffing up the country making it backward. Bill

*Just as we are seeing the result of the coalition partnership with Maori, any link with other extreme groups will be another
disaster for NZ. Brian

*Absolutely NOT!!!! For Greens read "left wing tree huggers". Almost as dangerous as radical Modi's!!! Let's get back to an electoral system that gives ONE party the power to govern this country & stop this nonsense of a wee small minority bunch of self interest MP's having the ability to blackmail the majority party in Parliament. NO bloody apartheid in NZ thank you.!!! Not while I'm still breathing anyway. Dave

*So far the Green Party has shown that its ideologies are more important to it than how the 'man in the street' wants to be governed. Pieter

*The only good thing pertaining to the Green Party is the imminent departure of that complete wate of space- Keith Locke. John



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - RADICAL FORCES SHAPE OUR FUTURE 100711
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:57 pm 
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Would you like to see the Green Party as a coalition partner in a National-led government?


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*The tree-hugging, sandal-wearing bleeding-heart lefties have already DAMAGED the environment in such a far-reaching way it may never recover. Why would anyone in their right mind want anything to do with that pack of imbeciles? Mark

*The new communists. Charles

*Not ever, or at least not until it becomes a real environmental party and not a vehicle for failed communist ideologies that, having failed to control production directly now seek to imposer an even more damaging indirect control through big govt and excessive regulation. Lech

*Just who will be paying for the Green policies in the long run when they have destroyed farming in this country? Fiona

*They are still radicals. Barry

*When are many NZers going to wakeup and see the damage being done to our economy by extreme thinking. Malcolm

*With the racism from the maori party and communism from the greens I fear New Zealand would be no worse off with a Labour led government. The Key led one has not one principle other than to stay in power at all costs. You have to give it to him - the man certainly understands MMP. (this is why it should be dumped). John

*They are extremists in everything they undertake! Wim

*Views are impracticable and too extreme. Albie

*Would be the last straw for me. NZ is or has become a cot-case. The tail has been wagging the dog for so long, what has become of the dog? Hard working, tax-paying decent NZrs have been castrated from the backside up! Sharen

*As a political group they are not representative of the majority of NZers. They have their own agenda and are not to be trusted. Sarah

*Would not like to see any party in coalition national. Dennis

*I suspect there are greenies who still have a liking for communism lurking in their frontlobes....scary. Eneka

*What have they done for the country in the last several term? Most Greenies collect government money for so called special environmental projects and achieve nothing, except collecting a pay check. Doug

*God help us. Trouble is, if national dont take all the nutters on board, they could all side with labour then where would we be. None of them, including National, give a toss about the country or the people, just the power the office holds for them. Ray

*The practice of Coalition between political parties in Government is contrary to the principle of MMP, where the parties are meant to maintain independent positions and vote on issues according to their manifestoes. Eric

*The Green's left wing socialist policies would be incompatible with National's policies. Such a coalition would not work. I would prefer to see the Green Party out of parliament altogether. Peter

*But only as an absolutely last resort, but it would probably never be contemplated by National. Steve

*NO - a million times, NO! It would be like having Josef Goebbels as head of TVNZ, or Dr Mengele as head of the Dept of Health. Radicals like the loony-left greenies deserve only only 1 place of residence: a padded cell. Peter

*I wouldn't like to see the Greens holding the balance of power in any government. While some of their principles and ideals are laudable, others are ridiculous. Ron

*The Greens appear to be preoccupied with their environmental goody goody two shoes policies at the expense of common sense and astute economic management. John

*The Green Party are a disaster. Tom

*Their approach to nature is simplistic and far too narrow,we must modify our inviroment to progress. Russell

*As a pensioner I fear for the future care of senior cits in NZ. In a week where the lefties are calling to increase the entry age for pensioners because we have not got the resources required to pay the pension at 65. If the Govt. stoped giving away billions of taxpayers dollars to treaty greivances we would haave plenty of money for the pension. Richard

*No, a thousand times no. And it is time to scrap the MMP electoral system which allows "the tail to wag the dog." Rob

*They are left enough already. Peter



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - RADICAL FORCES SHAPE OUR FUTURE 100711
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:03 pm 
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*Should only be governed by the crown. Simon

*ShonKey John will do anything for power. He is our political Judas, handing over our national silver, land, coast, rights and privileges to the appalling Maori Party. My vote will be for Brash, a light amongst the murky dealings of Shonkey John! Rob

*Perish the thought - we've already got the global warming fiasco and so many obstructive forces in the way of progress. Catherine

*Time to seek an end to tail-wagging-dog politics; vote against MMP at next election. Russell

*Maybe ACT would be better. ONE LAW FOR ALL THE COUNTRY!!! WE ARE FED UP WITH A CERTAIN RACE BASED SOCIETY!!! ONE LAW FOR ALL. Will

*Also no one should have rights to DNA anywhere in the world, did anyone on earth invent it? Don

*A very bad idea. Just look at the turmoil in Australia over the carbon tax. Murray

*Is the National party getting desperate and afraid of losing the coming election ? I sincerely hope not. EJ

*NO ! ….. I don't want to see National in coalition with anyone, I want them dumped and out on their ear. Haven't we learned anything from the past 3 years??? John Key and his henchmen are conmen, they smile while they blatantly and arrogantly lie to us and steal from us. Wake up Kiwis, Key and co are shafting us and our kids, it’s time to put a stop to it. Come November don’t give them the tick….. give them the flick! Tony

*Whilst I like to see the environment cared for, the Greens are about so much more than that - bleeding heart socialist in hemp suits. But then, National aren't far from that either under Key. Some of the comments the Greens leaders make show just how little grasp on reality they have - especially financial reality. Like Labour they are so bereft of new ideas they can only offer the usual 'tax the rich' mantra. Most of the people they consider rich aren't really that wealthy, and already pay a hugely disproportionate amount of tax. I'd like to know what Labour & the Greens will do when they have driven the 'rich' to Australia. They are dangerous simpletons with few credible policies. Gary

*Anyone who still believes that the Greens are "just nice tree huggers" is seriously deluded. Their political manifesto, rarely read, and even more rarely discussed, is a couple of steps left of Trotsky. Watch what is about to happen to Australia with the Greens now holding the balance of power in the Senate . . . .Eric

*I'm their auditor and I know why they have a firm financial foundation!! David

*Voted yes to this, probably against the norm. But I'd far rather see National reliant on a green vote than a Maori vote. And in relation to an item in this week's newsletter, perhaps we could agree that Maori should be allowed to own the genetic codes of any taniwha they are able to take a biopsy of? David

*Like another hole in the head. NO THANK YOU. Colin

*Absolute lunacy and a total sell out of principle and integrity. Mike

*It would be great - New Zealand would then descend into feudalism and total economic destruction - that would allow some strong minded and prosaic country to take us over and do away with all the stupidity of Greens and Maori greed and maybe get us back to a modern society. It only needs the Greens to come into Government in whatever form to apply the final countdown to third world status. Go for it and let the do-gooders and tree huggers see what their fanatacism causes - I'm looking at Oz for the future of my extended family. NZ is doomed. Grant



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - 100711
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:08 pm 
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*National is obviously looking to bring in all parties except labour into a grand coalition to strangle out Labour and secure its place as a long term government. John

*They are radicals. Harry

*As silly a concept as Israel asking Hamas to enter coalition! Willy

*No bloody way. They are a bunch Communists who are hiding their true identity under the guise of so called green politics. Any association with them would be an absolute disaster for the government. Allan

*A Green Party, Maaori and Mana coalition with national is just what this country needs, this will help stamp out entranched racisim that seems rampant. Stephan

*Never ever aaaggghhh! Adrian

*The Green party is truly the watermelon party - green on the outside, bright red on the inside. Keith Locke who once had good words for Pol Pot was made its foreign policy spokesman. Sue Bradford resigned in pique when, by some miracle, was rejected as its co-leader. A brief moment of sanity perhaps? But she was tolerated by the greens for years. What more needs to be said except that the party provides one of the better arguments for dumping M.M.P. Peter

*I think its about time that the national party were voted out,then what would the greens do? Kelvin

*You're kidding -right? Lloyd

*Just to clarify that I most DEFINITELY do NOT support the Greens as a possible Coalition Partner for National!! Lloyd

*Let hell freeze over first! Kevin

*What is Key and co up to? It's bad enough having the Maori Party running the country (with 2% support from their "supporters") without adding another bunch of radical nutters. When I voted National I did not realise how stupid they are. Their natural coalition party is ACT and they will be getting my vote in November. Key should be told to steer clear of both the Maori & Green Parties - he is betraying his supporters. Carolyn

*I would prefer to see the Greens gone from Parliament all together. I had one National party Minister describe the Greens as the watermelon party. Green on the outside and red on the inside! An apt description in my mind. Jim

*Could it be any more of a disaster than it is now? Obviously yes! ACT. (the so-called radicals), will be getting my vote next time - there is no other hope! Shirley

*Good to see NZCPR has a sense of humour, Green's in coalition with Nats, thats all we need, after watching them with the Maori party I dread to think what would happen if they had to work with Norman and co. On a more serious note, we see now how deeply ingrained the Maori takeover is when daring to suggest everyone be treated equally makes you racist and separatist, the volume of hand wringing rhetoric pretty much confirms that nothing is going to change. John

*When you make a Pact with the Devil you wake up in Hell. However judging this present Government the lust of power, is just as great as the previous one. Therefore we should expect that if National or Labour need the Greens to govern, then principals will always be the first victims. We are rapidly finding out with the hand over of New Zealand to Maori; just how the Saxons felt and endured after 1066, or more so after 1086. Brian

*The Green Party has grown in popularity ever since Sue Bradford left and to a certain extend Nándor Tánczos. There are some Green MPs that I really admire and trust and with their ability could win a electoral seat in their own right. However whilst Keith Locke is involved, they will struggle to gain any real credibility, he is one person who could never get elected to Parliament, a professional stirrer. Robert

*Just look over the ditch to see how the coalition with the ALP is working, give them a seat at the table in NZ & lord only knows what the outcome will be. Francis




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 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - RADICAL FORCES SHAPE OUR FUTURE 100711
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:28 pm 
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*Good grief - it's bad enough with the Maori Party! We certainly do not want a bar of the radical greenies! Andy

*No, no, no! Extreme parties should stay on the fringe NOT be embraced into the mainstream. This is a very good reason why we need to get rid of MMP or at least have a system where we can throw out radical policies when they are passed. Toni

*There is no place for extreme environmentalism in a National government. Nick Smith covers that ground and is bad enough! Jim

*Heaven help us if all these rag tag radicals shape New Zealand's future. Sally

*I can see that National wants to develop a grand coalition but they need to find a way to curb the extremism. It is not right that a government imposes policies that are destructive to the future of the country. Michael


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