NZ Centre for Political Research

To join in the debates please visit "Support NZCPR" via the Homepage
Back to the NZCPR Homepage
It is currently Sun May 19, 2013 3:37 am

All times are UTC + 12 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:33 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm
Posts: 6794
Quote:
This week's poll asks:

Given that National already had the numbers to govern with ACT and United Future, do you support National entering into a Confidence and Supply agreement with the Maori Party?


Quote:
*National is again assisting the Maori Party to make racist claims and divide the Country. Peter

*NO NO NO Never . Grahame

*All it will take for National to lose its majority is a sinle by-election loss. Brian

*John boy will probably promise Iwi a slice of the asset sales cake if they support him with other tough legislation. Watch this space. Ray

*They will have given the Maori more of what is ours and we will not be told. Key should give them the push, they got less than 2% of the vote but are trying to run the country. Key should listen to the conservative party and take some of their policies on board. After all, 55000 of the public can't be wrong. Carolyn

*It's not needed so why would Key do it? I fear it is just more of the same sell down the river from their first three years. We must keep a very close eye on this new constitution to avoid a total sell out. Ronmac

*Having succeeded in cracking & dividing the Maori Party, Key should have made an alliance with the Greens - ready for the breaking thereof. Dave



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:42 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm
Posts: 6794
Quote:
This week's poll asks:

Given that National already had the numbers to govern with ACT and United Future, do you support National entering into a Confidence and Supply agreement with the Maori Party?


Quote:
*Key is doing it again, pandering to the Iwi Elite, who is pulling the strings of the Maori Party. Karl

*A majority of one is not sufficient in the long term. Desmond

*I don't actually support very much that they do. Graeme

*It is ridiculous that part Maori can have such sweeping powers and influence with such a minute per centage of voting strength. It appears the National Party will remain under the part Maori thumb for the next three years. Nothing has changed. Colin

*It shows the worst aspects of MMP. A pact mde by Maori to ensure that they can continue to push their claims and it gives plonker Key the extra support he feels he needs. Lets hope the review of MMP corrects some of the worst aspects of the sustem. Bill

*The deal with the Maoist Maori Party once again illustrates that this DonKey led National Socialist Government is as brainless as they are spineless. Sadly the same could be said of the people who elected them. Michael

*The "Our people come first party" have much too much say in government compared to the rest of us. Rick

*John Key is heading N.Z. into a disaster. Jim

*There is something going on there and it smells! Peter

*I am tired of hearing about "MY" people. Laura

*Well it will complete The Attorney Generals machinations to cede this country in total, to his supporters in Tainui and affilliated bretheren. Wiremu




Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:15 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm
Posts: 6794
Quote:
This week's poll asks:

Given that National already had the numbers to govern with ACT and United Future, do you support National entering into a Confidence and Supply agreement with the Maori Party?


Quote:
*Maori Party in a real democracy would have no seats in Parliament anyway! Simon

*Yes, confidence and supply is fine ... but the rest of the bollocks that the Maori Party want should be dumped in the trash where it belongs. 1.4% of the vote doesn't entitle them to create a separate race based policy framework and that is what they are doing. It's madness and most Maori know it. Dianna

*Just stuffs up the country, MMP is fraught with problems and to show how stupid it is a National candidate lost out still ends up as a politician by jumping the queue and those unwilling to stand knowing the haven't a chance of making it like Finlayson get there, shame on those who support MMP. One nation, one flag, one people. Robert

*We've seen the result of the last 3 years - even Helen wasn't so silly. John was heavily criticised for the sale of asset principles and yet the average punter has not uttered a word about the "GIFTING" to Maori of our major assets (at no cost at all!!) - Seabed and Foreshore. Can some one please identify what else there is left to throw away. Stewart

*National is dividing the country by pushing race based policies. Ian

*I like the way MMP works in our parlimentary system. Sometimes changes that are made taking a bit more time, and with more input from various parties, are better in the long term than those that are developed along the single party line. Graham

*The election has shown there is little support for the Maori Party. The people have spoken. So with little support why are their wishes of importance. The Maori Party is about separatism. Obviously they have no support and good on the electorate, they don't want apartheid. John

*The Maori Party can go #!@^ them selves. Graham

*The Maori Party has too much say in Goverment Policies that are only enhancing Maori status at the disadvantage of the majority of what i feel are New Zealanders and if continued will cause racial riots like those that occur overseas where the will of the majority is not taken into account. David

*Absolutely NOT. Maori seats are not needed, let alone giving them almost unrestricted control over everything they have asked for. Maurice

*The last government deal with Maori Party shafted New zealanders , now it's time to review that deal. Gay

*This is the reason I didn't vote National with their bowing and scraping to Maori they helping create apartheid. Clark

*It might stop the assets being sold. Christopher

*I appreciate it gives National another string to the bow, but they are giving away far too much for what they achieve. Rob

*The Maori Party do not have ALL New Zealanders interests at heart. Larry

*In politics keep your friends close, and your enemy's even closer. Sam

*With both Maori party leaders retiring, no! Monica

*National should have gone on its own with Act & Dunne. Geoff

*Safety in case one of Act or other party fails. David

*It dosen't really matter whether or not I support the Nats and Maoris having an agreement. Right now, we do not have a government that listens to what to country wants, and is going to carry on it's merry way towards driving New Zealand into poverty. Except for the maoris that is ... I notice more and more important looking maoris driving around in the big tax payer funded cars. You don't believe me? Take a look around and open your eyes. It's disgraceful. Neil




Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:22 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm
Posts: 6794
Quote:
This week's poll asks:

Given that National already had the numbers to govern with ACT and United Future, do you support National entering into a Confidence and Supply agreement with the Maori Party?


Quote:
*It is better to have them on side and them hopefully National can and WILL moderate some of their more extreme demands. Anthony

*They got too much already before they are going require more of the nz heritage for their private means. Bob

*Depends upon confidence & supply agreement. David

*We shouldn't have race based political parties. Murray

*Cannot see any reason why they shouldn't. John

*No way, I did not vote for National because they did the same at the previous election..the Maori party are just in it for what they can get for themselves and no one else..the rest do not matter...even with all they managed to bludge out of the rest of NZ they are still in the wrost situation...one has to earn what one gets...just given to one is never appreciated..they still have the worst figures in everything so even with what they have got they still function the same and nothing has changed in the past three years...it has to come within and the need to want to progress...I do not think that will ever happen in my lifetime. Audrey

*Inclusiveness worked well in last term. Ron

*It is making the maori party appear more important than they actually are.Personally i wouldnt like the hassell of having to consult with them over all and sundry. Why bother when their people on the whole couldnt even bother to vote. More of the tail wagging the dog methinks. Brian

*Intestinal fortitude is what politicians are lacking. Phil

*I did not vote for Maori. Gavin

*This obsession that the Nats have of brown-nosing with the racist, triablist Maori radicals can only be explained by understanding that they are not doing it off their own bat. No, their instructions to further divide and degrade NZ comes from the UN, who gets their marching orders from the globalists. Its time for fundamental revolution in NZ - we need to wipe away the old system and start again from scratch. While most can't see it (due to all the trinkets and toys they've been purchased with: tablets, mp3 players, gaming consoles, internet porn, booze, etc etc etc), we are in as desperate need for radical reform as the French and nascent-Americans were in the 1700's... Peter

*It was expected to see Key butter up to the Racist party. I didn't vote Key and National in, I voted to keep the other lot out. There was damn all choice, either one lot of rackets or the other. Let's wait and see Maori language back in schools at the expense of English and Maths. Like the last 3 years the Maori party will rule the roost. The whole two and a half percent who voted Maori. Oh well, just a hundred thousand more or so will leave NZ. Who cares? Chris

*What a wasted opportunity to shut the Maori seperatists out. Where will their stupid demands end? I don't know why they want to be separate, as there are so few real Maoris left anyway. We should all bombard John Key with emails etc. Sheila

*Isn't it interesting how well Maori do in Australia. Where there are no special seperate rules and laws. Tim

*Have some misgivings but overall I believe it is in the National interest to have Maori involved. David

*I guess this question is now academic seeing how quickly National embraced the Maori Party back into the fold. The unanswerable question still remains WHY? They should take note of the old adage:-
“If you sleep with the Devil you always awake in Hell”
P.M. Key should examine the actions and courage of previous National Party Prime Ministers, notably Sydney Holland who, against all political advice, took National to the Ballot Box over a strike and won!
World International Financial conditions now demand that New Zealand stop borrowing against our future, the Government must bring strict austerity measures into being. At the same time reduce our overweight bureaucracy, economise on welfare, education, conservation and other cores services to enable us to live within our means.
If defeated over these measures in Parliament; he must go to the people, despite the obvious advice from his spin doctors against such an action. National has to realise that the majority of informed citizens of this country know our financial position, and that curbs on spending have to be implemented.
Realty must be faced, it will take courage and faith to do what is necessary...but it must be done, and done NOW. Brian



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:58 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm
Posts: 6794
Quote:
This week's poll asks:

Given that National already had the numbers to govern with ACT and United Future, do you support National entering into a Confidence and Supply agreement with the Maori Party?


Quote:
*No point. Neil

*MMP does not provide a representative parliament. Bob

*The trade off for Maori support will be more burden on an already overtaxed populace. It's not about enacting policy to take the country forward, its purely and simply about staying in power. Disgraceful. Ray

*Bit by bit ownership and control of NZ is being handed over to Maori interests, to the utter detriment of everyone else. And it is almost beyond belief that this has accelerated under National as Key & Co. seek to maintain the support of the Maori Party by doing as many nasty little deals as they are allowed to get away with. Just wait for entrenchment of the racially divisive Maori seats and deeper insertion of the Treaty of Waitangi into virtually everything. John

*Ho hum. Of course I do until the public become too upset with this dictatory government and force Key to unlock his grip on the lucrative money he has been gifted by the higher salaries commission!! But I would not suggest the Maori Party agrees with anything else! Rawiri

*Terrible stench! Barry

*If you think the current set up is bad, wait until we have a Labour/Green/Mana consortium, I hope they have voluntary Euthanasia by then. John

*They are a racist Party who only get in via the Maori seats which should have long gone. They've already caused so much damage to our country through weak National giving into to their outrageous racist demands I dread another year of National combined with the Maori Party. B+H

*This country is being ruined by continual Treaty Claims and the so-called Maoris who are inbred with other races and therefore not true Maoris. Mary

*If John Key wants to continue a racist government he will enshrine the Treaty of Waitangi and the maori parliamentary seats into law. The average New Zealander has been brainwashed to believe that there is nothing wrong with this and that this is the natural order in New Zealand. Do these people never wonder where this will lead in 50 or 100 years? Other more enlightened countries have found that it is better to stop going down this path than try to change it when it has become entrenched. John

*Greedy Maori and self serving Politicians have got us into the "racist" mess that we Kiwi's are in now. As I've said many times before, there is an easy way to stop it ...... bring out the "Littlewood Treaty" and make it public knowledge, thrash it out in the public arena ........ then apply it! Simple NO MORE Treaty hand-outs, no more claims, no more racism. The Littlewood treaty MUST be a huge worry to the government otherwise there wouldn’t be a media ban on the use of the words ‘Littlewood Treaty’’. There must be a good reason why Sean Plunket, Mark Sainsbury, John Campbell etc haven’t gone public on this subject ……… the only one that I know of that had the ‘nads to go public on this was good old Ian Wishart and of course it’s very easy for the pollies to just writes off anything Ian says (even though there is sound evidence behind most of what Ian writes). I thought Don Brash was going to bring this subject out into the open following his “Orewa Speech” but alas it appears that he had the frighteners put into him and all he ever said from that point on was “there is no mention of a partnership, the Treaty says we are one people”.
I firmly believe that NZ is being ‘ruled’ by a false treaty, I also firmly believe that our senior politicians are well aware of that fact. If what we have been taught in school history classes is proven to be wrong …. So be it, get over it, move on and start teaching the true history of NZ. Tony



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:11 pm
Posts: 1192
NO!!!

_________________
wellwellwell


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - NATIONAL READY TO GOVERN AGAIN 111211
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:05 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm
Posts: 6794
Quote:
This week's poll asks:

Given that National already had the numbers to govern with ACT and United Future, do you support National entering into a Confidence and Supply agreement with the Maori Party?

Quote:
*No, No, No. I'm sick to death of politicians pandering to racists. When will they realise it's OUR country too? The sooner we can truly have one law for all the better New Zealand will be. Judith

*National did not need the Maori Party. Now we will have three more years of separatism pushed onto us. More foreshore and seabed deals, more claims for rivers and National parks and anything else they can get their hands on. Michael

*All of these demands by the Maori Party are basically for power and control. The sooner Maori leaders realised that the rest of Kiwis with Maori heritage just want to be Kiwis like everyone else the better. Stuart

*I realise it is easier for John Key to govern with extra votes up his sleeve, but he should not sacrifice the rights of all New Zealanders to live in a country that does not divide its citizens based in race. He is turning us into a separatist nation with his pandering to Maori. Sue

*The issue of whether the Maori seats should be retained or abolished should be put to a referendum - let everyone have a say and get rid of the damned things. Then we won't have naked racism and greed like we are seeing now. It is all quite sickening really. Andrew


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 12 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group