NZ Centre for Political Research

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*Not unless every citizen gets the same share. What right have part-Maori iwi over the rights of other citizens, whether part-Maori or white? Rob

*If they want shares let them buy them like every other New Zealander has to. Bernie

*Never ever there is already to many ridiculous hand outs to Maori. Clark

*All Nzers should be issued individual shares - or none at all. Tim

*Absolutely not. It's well past time we acted like one people. Steve

*No, No No! No more than I should be given shares in anything. Iwi can buy them just like me, even though as a taxpayer of many years I've already paid for them ....unlike the bludging, whinging, hand-out brigade that have done nothing but benefit from the Pakeha technology, innovation and industry. Cedric

*Free shares for the greedy maoris? It is a definate NO to that. But hey, John Key does not give a toss what I think, because it is all about political power, not what is best for New Zealand. So where are my free shares, Lord knows I have put more into earning or deserving them than any darkie. Difference is that I understand what is right and what is wrong. Neil

*That would be defeating the purpose of SOEs partial asset sale. Ian

*It's time all claims stopped. The gravy train needs to be derailed NOW. Stewart

*With less than 2% of the vote these brown buggers are running the country. Margaret

*We are one people. Dianne

*As per Article 2 TOW re:property rights. I think iwi maori should use all legal options to challenge the Nations proposal. Milton

*If National, or any other Party in our Parliament agrees to this; or the Key Government backs down to Maori on the sale of SOE's.
Then that will be the time to really demand Partition.
Why? because unless this ethnic nonsense is put down New Zealanders as a nation, will disappear into a South Sea Palm waving Banana state under the watchful eyes of the U.N. with appropriate handouts. Brian

*Enough of the Treaty claims already! It is time we all moved forward into a united future, and ceased all the greedy land and asset grabbing of Maori who want everything handed to them on a silver plate! Raelene

*This is utter greed. When will it stop! Peter

*It matters not a jot to Key what the public wants - he will give Sharples whatever he asks for. And then some! Isobel

*Absolutely NOT! What on earth would be the reason to justify that? Dave

*Absolutely Not! It would be treachery by this soft, self preserving government. Sarah

*Unbelievable! Australia here we come! John

*Iwi have already been given enormous sums of money to which they have no entitlement. They should be paid values which applied in 1840 and they have already been paid many times such amounts. Peter

*Absolutely no justification for giving anyone a free allocation! Hugh

*By signing the treaty Modi's ceded sovereignty; they had their (tangible) property protected;they were given the same rights of citizenship as others.
Of note is: that it can be argued that making Special Provisions for Modi's, may well contravene the treaty??!!!!!
Modi's are immigrants just like the rest of us, except we didn't enslave,take prisoners as forced concubines or eat the people who were here when we, the Spanish & the Portugese arrived here back in the late 1500's & 1800's !!!!!! Dave

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*The assets belong to us all as New Zealanders. Keith

*Let the IWI work and pay for the rights to water the same as others have to do. David

*They may have been treated unfairly in the 1880's but it was war and I know of no other country that has had to pay and pay and keep on paying for the sins of the fathers,100s of years ago. It's time to call a halt and lets get on enjoying our beautiful country as New Zealanders. Barbara

*Its all about money for IWI. They have had an unfair share of taxpayers money already. Denis

*What more do they want...... Carl

*Absolutely not! Let them buy shares like all other New Zealanders. What a greedy, divisive lot Maori are showing themselves to be. National must show some guts, get rid of Finlayson and just say "No" to Iwi. Doug

*They have no more, nor different, rights from all other New Zealanders. Walter

*They should pay like every other New Zealander if they are seeking shares. George

*The whole Tribunal Claims System should be stopped immediately. Let Maori fund any further investments they wish from the millions that have been poured their way over the last 60 years!!! Robbie

*An allocation to Maori is acceptable BUT THEY MUST PAY FOR THEM like everybody else! Mike

*WE all pay for them if we want them. Maori included. However we should get the Maori to hit the UN for a 100 billion or more I am sure they would get it one way or another. And hey they could have the assets with out the treaty B S. John

*It has been proven that giving Maori things of value has not improved their culture or welfare - crime, abuse, lack of education, unemployment etc. They are being racists and thiefs under the pretence of 'past wrongs'. They should realise that when a country is invaded and conquered, they no longer have right to it...just like those who were here before the Maori. Don't they realise how much our economy is suffering because of the wasteful hand-outs they receive. If we didn't waste all that money on claims, or give precious resources to those who don't know how to run or use them most efficiently, and who squander the profit as well, we would be in a better position to help the needy in our country regardless of whether they are Maori or not. Rudyard

*Are they NZ'ers or not? Let's find out. Peter

*Its time to throw out the Treaty what happened 200 yrs ago is not relevant today. Its just a gravy train for the few Maori at the top. Astrid

*The "Treaty Claims" Must be stopped NOW It should be a condition of settlement monies are audited so the all members of any claim group can see where the monies are spent and who the beneficaries are and the settlement share they received. Bill

*They can buy shares if they want to like the rest of us. Terry

*Hell NO, when are the people going to NO to all further Treaty claims. Laurent

*Never. The gravy train must end or NZ has had it!@#$%. Albyn

*The greedy buggers won't stop while we have Key giving in to their continual greedy demands. When will it end - I have had enough and am now spending more of my life in Oz than in this stuffed country. Carolyn

*Giving people for nothing that for which others pay is already a blight on the wider N.Z.community. It has to stop. Peter

*Certainly not it's about time the government put a stop to all further claims and told them enough is enough! Ken

*It's about time we recognised Treaty Partners for what they were supposed to be. Paul

*No more until they start improving the life of their own people, houses, schools etc. Jill

*Not unless they are prepared to repay the crown a 50% cost for all develeopmental costs over the years to create the enterprise to present day standards and value and ongoing maintenance like any other share holder. Jan

*I'm totally fed up with the special treatment dished out to maori & the gutless politicians who give in to them. Tony

*Their perception of their entitlements all just seems never ending. Rosemary

*They buy them like any other person would. Geoff

*No no no!!!! Absolutely NOT. Maggie

*Absolutely NO...ITS ABOUT TIME THEY WERE THROWN OFF THIS GRAVY TRAIN...they should learn to stand on their own two feet life everyone else has to...particularly the new immigrants who I am sure had no idea what they were landing themselves into when they embarked on immigrating to NZ...these greedy Iwi opportunists should feel ashamed of themselves..everyone should be treated equally in NZ...but we are not and its going to get a lot worse if nothing is done to reverse this awful trend. Audrey

*Hell no! The sooner someone has the fortitude to put stop to all Maori claims the better. One country united is the way to go not the racial divide that maori radicals are creating. Nigel

*They have no more right to these shares than I, a part Irish part Welsh sixth generation New Zealander have. Doreen

*Let me get this straight, you sell the land then a 150 years get to claim it back. My familly owned a news paper, houses all over Remuera, Parnell, Otago and Thames so do I get to claim these back? Iain

*No bloody way! Wally

*No way. They should not be given any special treatment. Frank

*Maori, they keep telling us we are one people at the same time everything they do is to seperate us from them. Bryan

*Only if the government gives free shares to the rest of us. Don't we (including every maori) already own these soe's. Phil

*Over my dead body!!!!!! Trevor

*Why do we allow seperatism in NZ. Bryon

*We are one New Zealand. Robin

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*Why in goodness sake would you? They have no right to them whatsoever, just like I shouldn't be given free shares as a private individual. This proposition is ludicrous! Fraser

*They must be required to purchase the shares like anyone else. After all we the taxpayers have provided them with enough funding and resources to buy the full 49% themselves. John

*Rights belong to NZ's equally. Kevin

*I don't much mind if they buy shares, but free, definitely not. Even if they buy shsares, it's probably with money that has been given to them anyway! Sheila

*Maori privilege already has gone too far. A violent future is likely. James

*They have the same opportunity as everyone else to apply and or buy shares. David

*That would be racist! Phill

*Iwi should get only what they deserve - NOTHING. Maurice

*And I thought John Key had some backbone. What a bloody fraud. Ross

*Maori have had more than the treaty covered but they still think they have a right to everything and as they are increasing in numbers by inter-marriage it will never end until we have a strong enough Government to stop it foreever.. Mary

*Burn the bloody treaty, it is stifling the countries progress and suffocating both tax and rate payers. National does not govern, it is held to ransom and lead by a languished leader. Never in the history of New Zealand has so few fleeced so many incompetent politicians. Bill

*Enough-actually way more than enough! Roger

*Maori have already been given far to much. Ian

*No way! They have never been responsible for establishing them in the first place. John

*This is one country and everything should be the same for evey citizen. Give Maoris an inch and they take a mile and this is certainly being proved right. Judith

*Very certainly NO! It is time the gravy train was stopped now and forever. Bryan

*We should get rid of the Waitangi legislation and everything associated with it. Some other process should be used for settlement of outstanding grievances and a time limit should be imposed for final settlements. The process and procedures should be open to public scrutiny - not negotiated behind closed doors as at present. Alan

*These assets belong to the taxpayers of New Zealand. Bruce

*Iwi have been given enough $s to purchase - at market rates - as many shares as they could ever want. If they have chosen to squander the hand outs they have already got, then tough - line up with the rest of us! Ian

*Why should they? they had no part in setting them up or running them than any other taxpayer. It's about time everyone started being treated equally as new zealanders not split into races. David

*Like my parents told me... 'you want it? you earn it... or at least earn enough to buy it, nothing is free! David

*One country, one people - not two. Julie

*Nor any other SOE, they have the money to buy the same as any other Voter. Wayne

*Better to give it to them rather than the Chinese. Same with the water. Michael

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*We are being taken advantage of in the most callous way! We urgently need someone of great strength and character to stand up and sort out this injustice permanently. Enough really is enough! If we put the same levels of cash into education and health we will have a society of great intellect and well being for all New Zealanders - that is the best bonding mechanism a nation can have! Russell

*Free to one section of the community costs another. Bruce

*Of course not! But this gutless government will probably do so anyway, thereby making a mockery of selling the SOE's in the first place. At least Winston Peters might stand up against the grasping maoris and guilt-ridden or plain stupid National politicians. John

*If they want shares they but them on the stock exchange like anyone else. Grahame

*The sooner this National led Government grow some balls and tell the IWI (I want It) elite to bugger off, the better off NZ will be, socially and econically. Murray

*Read NZ before Maori by Ross Bodle. So far there has been 31 billion paid out to Maori. Where is the trickle down? What is the definition of a Maori? TN

*Reverse racim is alive and well in Aotearoa, and I am very sad that pakeha have rolled over andaccepted all thes so called "claims". MARILYN

*Unless all citizens get a share as in a Social Credit model. John

*Iwi have no right to expect anything without payment that others would not get. Gerhard

*Why should they? Discrimination! Bev

*They can buy thier shares just like everyone else! Enough preferential treatment!! Hugh

*Enough is enough. Greediness is evil. Laurel

*MORE GRAVY TRAIN CRAP. Brian

*Yes of course they should get a free allocation of shares in state owned companies and so should we all. We paid for them. K

*A BRIDGE TOO FAR!!! Bruce

*It's time Maori stopped wining and got on with taking responsibility for their future using the handouts they already have. Enough is enough! Iain

*Enough is enough! Stop Maori taking over the whole of NZ bit by bit! Margaret

*I like the use of the word "pusillanimous". It defnitively defines our gutless politicians! Cyril

*They COULD BUY them the same as everyone else tho'. In fact the SOE's should not be for "sale" as we already own them. Martin

*This country is too broke to give any more to anyone. Control of water is control of all life. Jill

*Enough is enough we can't move forward as a country as long as one part keeps looking back. Charmaine

*Of course not! What a load of nonsense! Andy


*Absolutely not. It is racist, unearned and unfair to keep giving to those who are not earning and expect it because of nothing other than their race. Colleen

*All taxpayers paid to establish them. Fairness is paramount. Noel

*Every M.P. agreeing to these insane measures should be black balled at the next elections. Malcolm

*They call themselves Iwi but all these millions they have rcvd none if it has gone to help their people too many of which are in jail, and struggling to make ends meet. Lyn

*Iwi can buy them like everyone else. They have enough money from the long-suffering tax payers. No doubt smiley Key will give them what they want! Laurie

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*The assets did not exist in the 'valid claim period'. They should only receive a proportion of the funds they provided for the establishment of the asset. Lindsay

*It is time the maori gravy train ceased. The continual gravy train will eventually cause a lot of anger from the longsuffering taxpayer and who can tell what the final results will be, if and when this anger spills over. Barbara

*Enough is Enough. They do not deserve anymore from us tax-payers. Brian

*Why should they be given free shares when other NZs have to pay for them. This is racism of the worse kind. Sonia

*Maori should shut up and start living like the rest of the country instead of raping it for all they can get. Ben

*Time for us to be united as one nation. Elvin

*Sick of them getting handouts all the time. Richard

*Someone said: "MY ANCESTORS STOLE LAND FROM MY ANCESTORS" That should put paid to all landclaims, surely? Eneka

*Until someone in government has the balls to say STOP, the problem will be with us for ever. Ron

*These Waitangi settlements are 90% of the reason why our health, roads, you name it are in such a poor state, Isn't it time we did our own 'HIKOI' to wellington to protest this rort???? Margret

*I am sick and tired of maori wanting a say in everything that comes up. I wish we had a government with the guts to say enough is enough, but diubt this will happen. Noela

*NO,No,No,No, No, a thousand times NO. Will this nation NEVER be one people? Is the Waitangi Tribunal inept? Surely it should be able to make fast and sensible dismissals of spurious claims and not drag these out needlessly? Vic

*It would be unjust, so it must not happen. Peter

*SOE's belong to all NZers. No ethnic group should be given part of what belongs to all. Don

*The next move will be to claim sunshine as it to has spiritual connections with Iwi, think of something that a weak Government will accpet and go for it. Warren

*We are fast becoming 2nd class citizens in our own country. Graeme

*No, No, No, Geez I'm really fed up with all the Gimme, Gimme, Gimme demands by these people. They seem to do little or nothing for New Zealand but bludge on the rest of us for whatever whim they think of next. Arthur

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*If they still have a problem with the treaty (which they constantly renege upon...) they should approach David Cameron, the British Prime minister for payment. I'm sure Mr. Cameron will be more than pleased to write them a cheque, as it was the British they had a "deal" with in 1840. Not the rest of us Kiwi's. John

*NO WAY! Why should they, any more than anyone else should - what daft dolly dreamed this one up?? Jean

*But the 120+ WIMPS in parliament will give it to the RACIST moari anyway...Mark

*They play on the weak minds of our politicians. Kerry

*As long as these dividing demands are allowed to continue-we will never be a 'one people'NZ. Barb

*Only "over the dead bodies" of some National MPs. Rod

*It is a sad time for New Zealand when Winston Peters pops up as the only one with the balls to stop the gravy train but no doubt if he ever gets the opportunity he will back down like all the previous. John

*Time to stop racial privilege. Carolyn

*But if it does go ahead the shares they are given should be tied up so they can't be sold, traded or given away. AND each share should be taxed as it would be for any other owner. Wendy

*No, unless they want to give us ALL free shares! Simon

*Stop the BULLSHIT John Key! We the people have had enough!!! Jim

*Absolutely not! It is time New Zealander's took to the streets on Maori imposters fraudulent claims. If I could leave I would go in a heartbeat. Kenneth

*Definitely not, the whole treaty is a pure sham and form of extortion in my opinion. Neville

*Special status for Maori by way of free allocation of shares has no place in a democratic nation. We are all equal or the nation falls. Paul

*Hell NO!! Is all the political correctness, fair treatment, equality, etc... just hot wind and talk?! What they are expecting is far from fair, equal, justice, or any such thing. If Maori (or any political party) wanted to gain or maintain posture and a good name then they should stop their blatant exploitation of what in this day and age fairly belongs to ALL Kiwi's. Note that ALL NZ'ders are ""Kiwi"", not just Iwi. We all have put our blood, sweat and tears into this wonderful land. It is a DISGRACE to Maori to push for such unethical exploitation of a treaty designed for establishing equality. Maori have become nothing more than "Iwi" devoid of "K"indness - they are not "Kiwi"! they have degraded themselves into exploitationists. Walter

*Obviously NOT. We must wonder whether John Key's government will EVER say a final, comprehensive "NO" to the increasingly absurd, always greedy Maori demands. And then stick to it. John

*It's important for the country, to put a stop to these ongoing claims relating to the treaty. Michael

*Enough is more than enough! Barb

*The current National Government is weak. I can see no completion to this gravy train unless government finds courage. Yer right !!! Geoff

*Where will it end? Someone has to see sense. Margaret

*There is no Partnership in the Treaty and Maori yielded themeselves to the Crown (a person to Maori). Ken

*No "maoris" are actually "maoris", so give them nothing. (They are ugly hybrids.) Barry

*The title of this weeks article is totally on the money pardon the pun I am starting to despair for the future of my family and of New Zealand, I just cannot comprehend why we keep pandering to Maori, on the one hand they bleed the country dry through claims on the other, they fill our prisons and are a drain on all working people. I know you can't publish this but if someone one day stands up and declares war on Maori I will gladly join the battle for the future of our beautiful country. Glen

*By all means let them use some of the hundreds of millions already gifted them to BUY shares in partly-privatized SOE's. It's far preferable to selling shares to offshore investors... Colin

*And then you will see the money being returned to their advantage and NOT THE RICH AND GREEDY FAT CATS. Rawiri

This week's poll asks:

Should iwi be given a free allocation of shares in the partially privatised State Owned Enterprises?

*No, no, no - a thousand times NO. They can pay for them like everyone else. AND the government should put their foot down and say NO to that stupid water claim while they are at it! Sandra

*Absolutely NO special deal for Maori. It is outrageous that they are even asking. Their greed makes me sick. Tony

*To those of us who are sick and tired of the ongoing farcical demands of maori, the question hardly warrants a polite response suffice to say NO, ad nauseum. Ray

*What a shambles it all is. The sooner the whole Treaty settlement business is dismantled the better. This gravy train is running out of control. Les

*Great articles this week - they should be published in all of the main newspapers in the country so everyone understands what is going on. Patrick

*No-one should get any special favours in the share floats. The whole idea is to raise as much money as possible. With back pickets full of millions of dollars of taxpayers money, it's not as if iwi can't afford to pay the going price. They just want to keep on fleecing taxpayers. Well, enough is enough! Simon