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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:09 pm 
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*Why has it taken them so long to figure this out! Many could see this decline ten years ago. Mark

*We should be one people not factions competing against each other. Simon

*Absolutely. So much time and money has been wasted on this a fruitless, divisive idea. Josie

*There is only one culture in New Zealand and that is Kiwi culture which has been a success on the sporting fields of the World and in two World wars. It is time Maori, Pakeha and the rest came to terms with reality. Peter

*For me the rot seemed to start when Lange's Labour government brought in Tomorrow's Schools and with it a babbletalk Primary Curriculum which laid great emphasis on "Maori perspectives" and the Treaty of Waitangi. School Boards of Trustees were asked to agree that the Treaty of Waitangi was a founding document and its so called importance was a compulsory insertion in any School Charter.
Later, the ERO team would come around asking what the school was doing for Maori pupils. It seemed to overlook the principled stand that a state funded school was there to advance the learning of all pupils irrespective of skin colour.

Some years ago it appeared that we would have a chance to turn the tide when Don Brash (then National Party leader) indicated that he wanted to cut back on racial preference and the Treaty of Waitangi mantra.
He was howled down by the media (racist!racist) and lost the next election. So the country had a chance to stop this nonsense but not enough voters were prepared to do it.

The Labour Party started this and the National Party has continued it.

As I've said on other posts our only options seem to be to support minor Parties who will actually listen to us, run Independent MPs if we can find the right people and push for Swiss style Direct Democracy.
Most of the politicians won't listen and don't want to listen. They would prefer to continue their stitched up deals which keep them in actual or potential power.
If we really want to change this imposed biculturalism and racial preference we are going to have to fight to make our voices heard and to to bring about change. Denis

*The way forward cannot happen while the N.Z.political class constantly look backwards to an old treaty and tribal iwi barbarism. Monica



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:34 pm 
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*As a non New Zealander I never fail to wonder how the country can ever advance when there are two agendas. "United we stand, divided we fall". How true is that and how applicable is that for this country. John

*All Social Policy staff should be dismissed. They have done immense harm. Max

*When will this end. When will someone be big enough to say, enough!!!! The country would be in a more financially stable condition if it were not for the continual attempts by governmentsto keep Maori happy with big budget expenditure. They will never have enough. Rob

*It's definitely Bi something. Need their old culture to extort the koha. Philip

*Absolutely or we will continue to wallow in the mire of grievance for ever. Catherine

*Politicians are too weak to accept the truth on this subject. KEVIN

*NZ must be unified. Divided we fall. Barbara

*I was away from NZ for 10 years returning in 2009. What a difference! Maori this, Maori that and no recognition of our largely European heritage or our increasing Asian heritage. I, for one, am not interested in returning to Maori stone age culture nor am I happy to see our politicians giving away assets that have been worked for in the main by our European ancestors. Alan

*SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED LONG, LONG, LONG AGO.

BUT THE MOARI RACISTS (LIKE HONE-THE-TOOL AND UNLEAVENED-BREAD-SHARPLES) WILL NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN.

AND, OF COURSE, UNSER FUHRER KEY WILL BE UNABLE TO GET THE FENCE PALING OUT OF HIS BUTT FOR LONG ENOUGH TO DO anyTHING.

WELCOME TO THE FOURTH WORLD...Mark

*Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!! It is so divisive and corrupt. There is no 'partnership' mentioned in the T o W. Gordon



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:40 pm 
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*Otherwise we will drift into militant protest and violence as each culture tries to impose its will over the other. It is well past time for New Zealanders to identify and define their values and create /restore the New Zealand culture. John

*There never WAS a time for biculturalism. The treaty of Waitangi was supposed to be unifying NOT separating us. Aunty Podes

*Well overdue. Peter

*High time our Parliament takes notice of what most western leaders have learned stop those who divide ones nation, and act NOW. Guus

*It's long past the time. We are becoming a feudal system. David

*If you look at how much public money has been paid to Maori, those who claim to be Maori must be the most wealthy individuals in NZ. Ian

*If Messrs Iti, Harawira and co desire independence they should have it Maoristan could then fund its national needs, pay its beneficiaries, build its hospitals, create its own economy in every respect and be fully and totally free of the rest of us - and the very Best of Luck and good riddance. Peter

*If we want to be one nation we can't have two separate peoples each with their own agendas and doing their own thing. Jesus said (quoted by David Round), A house divided against itself cannot stand. Do we want this unique country to fall to the "gods" of the mythical and impossible biculturalism? Sadly, some of the churches have fallen for the bicultural myth in a big way, notably the Anglicans and Methodists, as well as, to a certain extent, the Presbyterians. Many New Zealanders marched against apartheid in 1981, but we're trying to do the same thing now in our country! Enough is enough! Laurence

*If this funding continues the slippery slide to civil unrest will only get steeper. Murray

*We are going more and more towards a divisive New Zealand, to our peril. Ivan

*Maori has become an entity not a race of people. Christopher

*I believe there is a bigger division between Maori and Non Maori than ever before. Margaret

*Time to all "New Zealanders" and to end this race based division that is creeping in. That is the ONLY way New Zealand can start to move forward. Just the starting point though!!! Neil



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
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And would not any cultural, economic and social fragmentation be overcome best and most efficiently through a systematic effort towards the goal of Ownership Democracy?

This would eliminate socio-economically nourished cultural and racial antagonism between haves and have-nots, eliminate widespread poverty, and reduce welfare dependency.

This all is easily achieved through amending the NZSF into a permanent institution of Personal Accounts, with contributions to them built into our Govt. revenue system - for 100% of citizen participation.


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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:05 pm 
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*Didn't the Treaty supposedly promote one nation - what has happened to it?! TN

*Yes we must end state funded biculturalism as soon as possible. If we do not make the politicians do this we will end up moving to Australia, or God forbid, having a civil war to kill off the Maori. Ernest

*Bi-culturism is racism in drag. It pretends to address the disadvantaged minority race while in reality giving privilege wealth and power to a tiny number of the politcally elite who claim to belong to that race. The majority of the "disadvantaged" race see none of the wealth or other advantages because the elite do not share it. Barnett

*Why, because it doesn't work...we all have such different beliefs, be it religion or priorities...it just doesn't work whether we like it or not. Different peoples do get on but it has to be from their own heart it cannot be manufactured. Audrey

*David Round plus others I guess, have obviously only observed Maori culture from the outside otherwise we would not be presented with ethnocentric biased statemenjts. For what it is worth knowledge lines of Maori came from the Middle East 4000 yrs ago and that coincides with one branch of Celts moving to the ME. My experience imbues me with respect for Maori culture and I see us as being unique in the world to be able to achieve a new culture best of both best for all. Dawn

*I might return to NZ one day if that happened. Arthur

*Indeed. One country. One flag. Beryl

*The rest of the world is trying hard to get rid of apartheid! Here we are creating it! Andy

*Cameron is correct there can only be ONE culture, One country. Peter

*And pigs will fly. Keith

*Everyone living here should be classified as New Zealanders, whatever their background. There are probably more Asians than Maori but we cannot all be separate. One policy for the whole of New Zealand, PLEASE. Elsie

*Biculturalism is a dangerous social practice. Inevitably one culture becomes identified as the more privilaged to the resentment of the other. This causes severe tensions. It has never worked. Carole

*But we all know it is not going to happen, loved Les Pattersons comment last week when referring to the aborigine protest where Gillard lost her shoe "a couple of them were actually aborigine". John

*It should never have happened. While having sympathy for those who seek to preserve the good things of the past, they must face there were also many, many bad things in that primitive past. It is not a pattern for today. Biculturalism and ethnic privilege are unacceptable and unsustainable. If we are to flourish as a nation, or even survive, we need to go forward as one people. Certainly let us celebrate our differences but there can be only one national culture and that cannot be a stone age one. Rob

*It should never have begun. Governments seem to be more interested in getting votes at the next election or getting overseas trips rather than looking after all it's citizens. Mary

*We're one people one country. Barry

*I am sick of Moari favouritism, as practised by politicians. When are N.Zers going to chuck out both National and Labour and start afresh. Wake up , and join the real world. Malcolm

*It is apartheid, pure and simple and must end. Ineke

*It has to end sometime. Positive discrimination is the worst kind of discrimination - it deliberately sets one culture against the other and will, eventually, lead to direct confrontation. And that's something to avoid at all costs - history makes that quite clear! Stewart
Yes it is – but who is going to do it? We have a parliament where only a very small minority of politicians belong to parties who believe in equal rights for all New Zealanders. The mere mention of the word “culture” or “racism” has them all running for cover. The Doug Grahams of this country have fostered the belief in the superiority of the descendants of the first immigrants. Until we have a major political party prepared to campaign on equal rights for all New Zealanders, things will only get worse. Bring back Don Brash! J

*It is time to end biculturalism and become one nation. Jeff

*We must ensure equality for every New Zealander regardless of race or ethnic or cultural background. Martin

*Most definitely yes, it was never going to work. Deb

*This should have been knocked on the head decades ago. What NZ needs is a strong political leader/party to do this. The Treaty is so open to interpretation it's not funny and should be scrapped also, same as the Maori seats. Sheila

*Government cannot continue to maintain the Status Quo and expect things to improve! Neville

*This is so long overdue as to be ridiculous. But we need to look further than the small-minded tribalists like Pita Sharples and Co - they are but pawns to the UN and their globalist masters. We need a good shaking up of NZ - NZers have become mindless sheeple, content to let others dictate their future so long as the rugby, racing and beer (plus i-whatevers & widescreen LCD TVs) still flow freely. For the Romans like in squalid Rome, there was the Colusseum to distract from the decay of real life: our Colusseums are smaller and less obvious, but still serve the same purpose... >:( Peter

*One nation one people representing all not one racial grouping. Gareth




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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:19 pm 
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*It is the biggest future problem facing our nation and has the potential to take us toward a a civil war. Perhaps it is time we defined what a maori, or asian, or scotsman is, 50% blood line only. Donald

*I have Maori ancestry and am proud to be a 'New Zealand-er'. I am sick and tired of groups advocating racial advantages based on an historical treaty that becomes more irrelevant each passing year. Brian

*Post Haste. Jim

*Overdue! Absolutely and without doubt. Mary

*One coun try - one people. Pam

*We are all New Zealanders, and should be equal before the law. Anybody wanting special rights or dispensations should be prepared to pay for those and not the general taxpayer. Glenn

*I am in my mid-50's, there has been a separatist agenda in this country, particular within the education sector, ever since I can remember, it is just getting way over the top now. I applied for Primary Teacher training in 1972, I was quizzed about the Treaty at my first interview! I refused to comment, I didn't succeed in my application that year. I was quizzed again in 1973, I told the panel of 4 interviewers that I didn't have a pro or a con attitude to it, that to me it wasn't important. I didn't get in that year either. 1974 I was accepted, there was a different panel of interviewers, and I was still quizzed about my thoughts on the importance of the Treaty to NZ education, I said I hadn't changed my view on it from my previous 2 applications, but this time I was successful in getting into Training College. At the Epsom campus, there was a special Maori Education block, and places set aside for Maori intake, the same as for Uni. This separatist agenda has been around for decades. Sharen

*It seems totally wrong to promote one culture at the expense of others. Gerhard

*New Zealand will never be able to grow finacially and socially while we have biculturalism. We also have to stop living in the past and apologising for our ancestors. Colleen

*Bloody oath it should of been done years ago but our spineless politicians are just looking after themselves to hell with the rest of us. Clark

*A divided country will never survive; division reduces any credibility and strength! Elisabeth

*Like Sharia Law is an anathima to UK law so is the barbaric warfare of the ancestoral Maori. David

*Yep, for far too long NZ has been going down the apartheid route - all funded by the ignorant tax payers.

Over the long-term, some form of modern Maori culture will become the dominant culture in this country. Maori will be the first language, with English the unifying language as it often is in places like India.

NZ becoming this way is not in itself an issue. The issue is that it is being done in a covert, one step at a time, faceless way with Government, the media, the academics and the ignorant masses all colluding to make it happen.

Will it change? No now. It's too late, much as it is too late for the those who have finally woken-up in Europe to the stupidity of multi-culturalism.

I respect and admire most cultures (it's too easy to say 'all' when it might not be true) - including my own. I do not have to adopt another culture to respect it - any more than anyone else has to adopt my culture to respect it. Gary



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:06 pm 
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*End the bogus racial rort! Reuben

*We are supposed to be a democracy and we are all kiwis. This is not 1981/2 South Africa. There should be no raced based laws and we should all be equal. The idea that some who have a bit of one ethnicity are more equal is unacceptable. Peter

*People should either fund their own causes or collaborate with others of like mind rather than expecting everyone else to put their hands in their wallets for causes they don't believe in. Marc

*Get rid of the "TREATY" so we can all become New Zealanders!! MMP drives this policy. Samuel

*In my family I have bought up 4 children, 2 of which came with my partner, it's obscene that 2 of my family have race based benefits that the other 2 don't! In same family?? Grant

*Only fools and selfish people pursue to road to destruction. Gerd

*IT has become too one-sided and the government is gutless in standing up for what is good for all of us. OJ

*It should be available to all of us without bias. OJ

*Only full blood maori should be able to claim privelage under the treaty of waitangi. Mike

*Just stop it now. Barry

*I have held the view for many years that if we are to move forward as one nation, with pride in our hearts as 'Kiwi's', there can be NO Government legislation or funding which encourages separatism. I say, scrap the Maori seats and iwi representation on Boards. Let there be appointments based solely on ability alone. It might even slow down the numbers of Kiwi's wanting to get the hell out of this racially divided country. Vic



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 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO LOOK FORWARD 010412
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:10 pm 
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*It is long passed time to stop pandering to radical separatists. What an indictment of our politicians that they have been allowed to infiltrate government institutions to the extent that they have. Peter

*Of course it is time to end it. It is racism. John

*This state of affairs would be laughable if it were not so tragic. Martin

*Absolutely! Biculturalism is a training ground for radical sovereignty activists. Why successive governments have allowed it to advance to the stage it is at now is beyond me. Jim

*Yes - it should have been stopped years ago. Instead it is being used as a tool of indoctrination. It is outrageous what is really going on. Marian

*Will NZ ever have a leader prepared to stand up to the separatists? I can't see John Key or David Shearer doing it. Stuart

The biculturalists have been pulling our strings for years. Why can't people see through them. It's all about manipulation and self interest. George



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