NZ Centre for Political Research

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*Could someone please introduce our socialist appeasing govt. to Lord Christopher Monckton? "We shall lose the West unless we can restore the use of reason to pre-eminence in our institutions of what was once learning." Monica

*The whole idea is a fantasy. a tax based on lies. Robin

*1. It is estimated that the Australian Government will be $40 Billion in deficit by the May Budget. There is simply no conceivable policy method that it can use to prevent a further huge rise in the deficit following billions of dollars in compensation it intends to pay taxpayers to buy loyalty for the introduction of a failed ETS policy?
2. The Gillard government will be responsible for introducing a $25 per tonne Carbon Tax that will drive up the cost of living and doing business by up to 30%. The voter will respond by driving the Labour Party out of office next year in the biggest swing in the political history of Australia. When will governments accept that democracy is about policy for the people – not policy for the government?
3. In Australia there were a record of 7,000 bankruptcies in February 2012 - many more will follow once the Carbon Tax is forced upon the people and launches a new false crippling cost burden.
4. The value of a tonne of Carbon (from the air that we breathe) has fallen to around 6 Euros in the EU. A level where it is not functional as an investment incentive for investors to invest in carbon credits.
5. Should the international political system continue to force the continuation of ETS policy and control the value of carbon against the market the foundation stones for the next Global Financial Crisis will be complete. The ETS is creating a false market - not based on value but based on politics.
6. The possibility of NZ and AUS descending into a politically driven recession is increasing as manufacturing production industries become more uncompetitive and close their doors.
7. The NZ economy is stagnant and in regression, unable to absorb young people into the job market. The government is deficient in introducing policy that develops production through manufacture because of Free Trade Agreements and the inability to see the Chinese totalitarian dictatorship for what it is corrupt, manipulative and predatory.
8. Remember that NZ, a once wealthy country, has been driven into the current position by people like Mr Grosser, who have squandered the opportunities, squandered the wealth and squandered the assets of the country. Frederick

*Leaving aside any consideration of the doubts about the integrity of as-reported climate data, whether it be supposedly CO2-driven global temperature rise, sea level rise, increase in EWE’s (extreme weather events), melting of ice et al, no-one, nowhere has proven a link between mankind’s burning of fossil fuels & climate change. The only putative link, & the driving force behind CAGW, is the output from computer climate models. Given their abysmal predictive (sorry, projective) record over the last 15 years, they are little better than PlayStations for (wannabe)-scientists.
For all the politicians cant (“doing our fair share”, “protecting our image”, supporting our exporters”, ad nauseam), if this is the best “evidence” supporting the advice that they are given, then any rational being would drop the ETS forthwith. The world has far more pressing problems at the moment, & consumers give less & less of a rat’s arse about CAGW in their struggle for survival.
However, the gummint seems hell-bent on doubling the Carbon charge - & converting it to a tax. If it becomes a tax, then it is merely gummint revenue like all other taxes, & completely divorced from its primary goal of decreasing our use of fossil fuels. The ETS must go, there being no logical or moral justification for its existence. Dave

*This is only the beginning - to fund the endless growth of drones filling the seats of one world government - be very afraid! Ian

*Your polls are really no brainers. How could you in all honesty as a reasonable person vote yes to this? Roger

*Why have it at all? Trevor

*The whole concept of emissions trading is a crock. It has no science underpinning in that CO2 is not a pollutant. Soot is an atmospheric pollutant but all other forms of C are not. If an atmospheric discharge is a problem, then directly scrub or eliminate the discharge. C is the most useful, versatile element in the periodic table. Humans are made of carbon compounds. We exhale CO2. Co2 is the very basis of the human food chain. Dreamliners are made of what ?? Graeme

*What do they actually do with the money? Sandra

*I am retired, so any extra tax means I have to cut out on food, medicine, and home heating. David

*No, No, No absolutely not. As an agricultural research consultant, I have been vehemently opposed to this farcical tax based on left wing manipulated so-called research, lies, propaganda and scaremongering. Bruce

*Why is it so important to be the first? This will make it very difficult for some to cope with the inevitable price rises. It is hard enough now to keep a balance in one's life with the constant rieing prices. Jane

*The ETS is a scam! Mary

*The ETS is inefficient compared to alternatives to green the economy and demonstrably ineffective. Henry

*We should lease the land same as china and retain overall control. Barry

*It is totally unnecessary and positively deceitful. Daylight robbery of all NZ citizens. Sarah

*National's continuance of their support of the ETS scam and the UN "science" around it is a game-changer for me. I did not vote for them last year for the 1st time...and I won't while they continue down this path. Brian

*The ETS is yet another tax laid on the already overtaxed New Zealand people, and as we all know, tax is theft. Brendan

*1) Many countries now back pedalling from Kyoto agreement and even any "Global Warming" policies. We mustn't even get close to leading the way as most science now clearly shows no CO2 driven warming anywhere on this planet. Even Arctic Ice extent now back above 30 year average for time of year.
2) This tax unfairly hits poorer people.
3) Agriculture is NZ's primary industry and more CO2 helps it (essential ingredient for plant growth). Rod

*The ETS should be scrapped altogether. There is no longer any justification for it. Peter

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*Over many years Overseas Countries have stolen or taken by other means our Products. Chile got hold of Kiwifruit our sheep breeds went overseas as have our cows and thus we have lost valuable funds this will happen if these farms go they will cut out Fonterra sales and thus Agriculture which our mainstay of Overseas funds at present will be lost. We have Government Members who dan only see Dollar signs and not what is god for the Country's good. MARYLIN

*It's just another racket and rip-off. The reinactment/rebuilding of Babylon. Revelation chapter 18.tells us It will finally, in a few years, crash to the ground inside one hour,just like the Twin Towers. Max Max

*I was hopeful that this govt. would be above stealing! Adrienne

*It's all a crazy scam self inflicted to damage our economy. Baxter

*Lets get real. We are a poor little nation and cannot afford to impose such costs on our people. If greenies want it they should be free to pay for it - but not impose on the entire nation. Peter

*For most unbiased people within earth science industries, the ETS is regarded as tax justified by unscientific mumbo jumbo. ETS will do muore to distort markets and damage the NZ economy than any proposal in recent history. Rod

*Disaster. This is worse than the earthquakes we've lived through, because it is deliberately inflicted by the very people who are supposed to protect us. Shelley

*The whole AGW "theory" is seriously flawed and not backed by any reliable scientific evidence. Philip

*Getting very sick of the govt getting stuck into us all with what is nothing but a dressed up tax. It has to stop, and fast. Tim

*Usual Govt lies to hide the truth that money is the sole object. Raymond

*I will not vote for any political party that embraces the global warming and ETS scams. These scams are nothing short of fraud on a grand scale. John

*There is no one in the world who has created one molecule of CO2. The Co2 exhaled by all creatures will not make one iota of difference to the change in tempreature. Ben

*This ETS or Carbon tax is a world tax, pushed by the banking elite to create a one world Govt. NZ people should have the right to vote on this as no NZ Govt has the right to do this it should be treason. Brett

*Just another excuse to tax people. Brian

*ETS is another ripoff under disguise of saving the world which is doing nicely by it's self. Ian

*Absolutely misguided rubbish. Adrian

*Political claptrap. Emissions will go down if politicians stop farting about. Deedubb

*We must get rid of the ETS and all who support it. It will enable polluters to buy a licence and carry on polluting. We must stop pollution which may be caused by our present technology. Problems caused by technology are best solved by better technology not punishment. If the World is warming and if the cause is our pollution then stopping pollution will solve the global warming problem. If the World is not warming or if the cause is not us then we will have clean air and there is nothing wrong with that. K

*National have had my last vote! John

*Lying arseholes. Chris

*There is no actual evidence to support the need for ETS and no justification. To me it seems a dishonest act with deplorable consequences. Bevin

*The ets should never have been introduced in the first place. John

*Mindless communist crap we are going backwards. Dennis

*ETS is an unproven scheme which defies logic. Stan

*Scientifically there is no justification for an ETS in the first place. Alan

*Why do we have to pay when all the major countries of the world, who are the biggest polluters are not even bothering with it? Peter

*We have been lied to by Key and Smith over this con. How much did they have to pay the forest owners? The whole thing MUST be abolished or we can just consider we have all had an ongoing tax increase - another dip into our pockets - after being given tax relief, especially the rich mates of Key and Co. Dump the lot at the next election - my vote will definitely go to the new Conservatives if they stand again. Carolyn

*The worlds biggest polluters China and the USA are doing nothing about ETS as it will incur costs against their companies and make them less competitive on the world market. Gary

*As N.Z.'s contribution to global warming is so miniscule, we should wait for the major CO 2 producers to pay their fair share before we come to the party!! Cyril

*Rather get rid of the existing one. Barrie

*Could not think of a better way to kill off a fragile economy. It has now been proved beyond doubt that CO2 is not warming the atmosphere. John

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*There is no justification for any Carbon Tax as world temperatures have fallen for the last 15 years. AGW is a scam. Simon

*I don't support any tax that does nothing to change what mother nature intends. Nothing but blatant theft and it has been from the beginning. I thought I breathed out C02, wonder what that might cost me. Thieves and robbers the lot. Ray

*I only support the shutting down of this ETS scam. The sooner we take control of our own country and ignore the UN onslaught of deceit, the sooner our country will begin to prosper. Neil

*Double it? It needs to be scrapped! Who is making money out of it?
Funny isn't it? New Zealand follows the lead of other countries and their failed systems, but now they want to take the lead? As I said, who is making money out of it (specifically, the National Party)? Rod

*CO2 is my friend. Tim

*But who are we kidding? No govt is going to give away any chance at a free meal. just try to calculate the enormous income the govt will rake in. Grahame

*NO, the emissions trading scheme is a SCAM!! How are people supposed to survive with everything going up in price?! IT'S BL**DY RIDICULOUS and UNFAIR to NEW ZEALANDERS. Debbie

*This would have to be the most daft plan any government could implement. It is a hang over from a left leaning prime minister aiming for a job with the UN and at the tax payers expense. If only National had the courage to abandon this whole stupid tax. John

*I agree with your letter we're getting taken for a ride. Richard

*They need to get real. Pam

*I have never believed in manmade global warming! Nigel

*Got to be dreaming! Wally

*It's just a Government money gathering scheme (as referred to by Nick Smith), based on dubious science. Ivan

*Definitely NO! It's a tax and why should we pay this tax when no other country does. The EU is so different so can't compare there either.Who wants to be first in the world for something no one else bothers with, not even Al Gore who still lives in his mansion and probably pays for carbon credits which he can afford into a company where he is probably the major shareholder."A convenient UNTRUTH!" Margaret

*Thank god I'm out of NZin 3 months. Can't wait to never have to worry about this crap, Maori payouts ever again. Keep going John Key, I really have to say you tell lies and you are a deceitful man. Chris

*The ministers who dream this rubbish up should be charged with theft. Hugh

*I don't believe we need an ETS at all. It's a con. Bryan

*The ETS is the 2nd worst piece of legislation this National government has put through. It is completely unneccessary and puts unjustified financial load on both businesses and citizens (the bill-payers). Laurie

*NZ should not enter this field, at least until China & USA have. We are bunnies trying to lead the world in a hopeless & unnecessary pursuit. This at great cost to the consumer. Mike

*Maybe the 'powers that be' should pay thier own way like real people! David.

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*The whole Global Warming issue is just a new tax gathering mechanism. Murray

*Climate Change due to man made activity is more & more become a relic of unproven speculation. Peterm

*They will reap their reward for this. There must ultimately be a reaction to this scam and the longer it takes the more violent will be the reaction. Rob

*More climate change madness! National is as bad (if not worse) than the others. Roger

*The ETS was always a tax grab despite the claims and has not had any effect on climate change,and it never will. John

*Dump it. Jasmine

*ETS is an absolute rip-off. Ken

*Industry and households cannot afford further taxes in the present economical conditions. We seem to be doing more than our fair share compared with many other countries so we should back off until some uniformity can be established. Peter

*It's another con by the elete, reduce parlement by one person and that should cover the extra. Peter

*Just another tax borne by those people who cane least afford more costs. Carl

*I quote,Arthur Robinson PhD, "The (global) power to tax and ration energy is the power to control the world, to have life and death control over every human being on the planet. No government should ever have this power." Sharyn

*The whole thing was a scam right from the beginning.wake up n.z. Dona

*We do not need to be the front runners in what is a farce anyway! Nico

*The whole thing is a farse.. Why are the farmers and the general public penalised when all the planes the motor car racing not to mantion the pollution from al the war fare that is going on. Are we as individuals expected to pay for all that? Judith

*When considering the attitude of the rest of world why worry! Jim

*It is bizarre and ridiculous to have an ETS at all. New Zealand and it's 200 mile economic zone produce an abundance of oxygen from it's pastoreal activities and the positive impact on the atmosphere of the ocean action. We need an abundance of carbon in our environment in order to meet the needs of plants and that includes pasture along with every tree and flower and garden plant be it exotic or native. Methane is not a problem gas in any way and if it was we should be draining all our swamps and wetlands immediately as rotting vegetation which occurs by the millions of tonnes in wetlands and swamps, produces most of the methane produced in New Zealand. However, since methane is not a problem gas, let's not drain all the swamps. Just scrap the carbon tax and the ETS and all the lunatics who subscribe to the whole stupid lot of nonsense. There ... I've had my weekly rant. Pity it won't make a scrap of difference to the bureaucrats who are bleeding us all dry with their outrageous salaries which they are paid in order to produce volumes of useless reports which they can discuss over their lattes and then impose a tax on us to pay their salaries so that they can produce more alarmist reports that no one will ever read. Dianna

*Haven't seen any benefit up till now, National have turned wayward, talk about the Christchurch City being dysfunctional, National need to have alook at themselves. Bill

*It is legalised THEFT. Graham

*Does not appear to have any direct reduction in fossil fuel usage. Kevin

*Who gives parliament authority? The voters. Listen to the people who voted you in! Jacoba

*Duplicitous newspeak writ large!

Muriel can you craft a one line question that will expose this malfeasance when I have the opportunity in a few days to embarrass the Prime Minister in front of his acolytes?

I have a dozen questions I would like to ask but i need to know which question in your opinion will make the most impact given my limited chance to ask a single question of the PM? Peter

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*I do not believe that any carbon tax will reduce global warming one jot. It is absolute madness. Desmond

*Again - NZ leads the world - in the crass stupidity of its carbon tax - we the public will pay all of it (unlike anywhere else) - and we will be paying considerably more per household than anywhere else in the world. Bravo NZ - the country of lemmings heading for the cliffs. Auntil

*As a tax it has little to do with Global Climate Change. Just revenue collection. Bryan

*The Government is only interested in finding new ways to raise more tax revenue via methods that many people will be duped into thinking are good ideas (eg. saving the planet).

Why? The Govt needs the money, and income tax won't provide enough - wages never rise as fast as inflation. Another increase in GST will not be tolerated by voters ... but a carbon tax - wow, even some of the Greens might vote National!

National are too soft to do what needs to be done - real cuts in frivolous Govt spending. Gary

*A LOAD OF CROCK JUST ANOTHER WAY OF MOVING MONEY AROUND. HANS

*No such thing as democracy under National! Mike

*Another act of deceit and greed by the national Government. Margaret

*Nick Smith is a problem. Ian

*It is such an unneccessary thing. It would be a good idea to use solar power for heatng etc. Elsie

*The cost of borrowing must be met somehow. This is the best they can come up with. Michael

*Do all politicians think we are really rich and stupid? Peter

*This article should be published in every newspaper in the country and broadcast on all TV channels. What the hell is wrong with us poor Kiwis that we are not protesting at this outrageous tax collecting scheme? We are all destined to live out our lives in poverty in this grossly mis-managed country which should be a wealthy, happy place to live, as it used to be. Successive governments, since the Lange regime, have destroyed the economy and the wellbeing of the people of NZ. It started with the brainless scrapping of livestock subsidies forced by Douglas (who should have been hung, not Knighted) and is continued with this idiotic ETS scheme which is stuffing the country even more. The initiators claim proudly that NZ is the first to embrace these schemes and they seem to think the rest of the world will follow. Well that didn't work with the farm subsidies removal and it isn't working with the ETS. The rest of the world just laughs at us! And in the meantime we all suffer more financial hardship caused directly by these brainless idiots in parliament. Jayne

*This is just another excuse to create another tax. Mary

*Climate Change due to man made activity is more & more become a relic of unproven speculation. Peterm

*Key is starting to look more and more like a dictator and my patience is over. This guy is doing as much to destroy New Zealand the way we like it is that other lunny Prime Minister Clark. When the .... hits the fan in the future they will be nowhere to be seen just like the Loonies who proposed anti vaccination campaigns. Albyn

*It's just a legal scam to screw us. If it was a finance Co, the instigators would go to jail !! What's the difference. John

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*Definitely not. We should not have ETS at all. Fay

*ETS is a total farce and should be scrapped. Paul

*I don't approve of the ETS - period. In my opinion, there is minimal "climate change" being made by us, as the change we are now in is a cyclic one! Ted

*It is highly likely that the Labour govt in Australia will be booted out next year and their carbon tax will be repealed. Alan

*This is a crazy unnecessary scheme. Another reason to bring in Direct Democracy! Denis

*When will this insanity stop??????? Malcolm

*SCRAP THE EMISSIONS TRADING SCHEME - it is all smoke and mirrors. John

*Why would our country with only 4 million population lead the world in the ETS when compared with the UK of similar size and 65 million inhabitants and much heavy industry?!! Wim

*Which ever way we look at, no matter how it is dressed up, the E T S is a SUBSIDY, doubled or not. Colin

*Today I attended the Gisborne consultaion meeting. I asked what is a 'fair share'. I pointed out that even using the worst case scenario of the IPCC of 6 degrees temperature rise this century, if NZ cut its emissions to zero for a cenrury, the temperature difference would only be 0.013 degrees. The cost of this would be around $400 per person per year for 100 years at a carbon price of $20/tonne. This cost per capita would be the same for any nation with the same emissions profile per head. I asked how many people out on the street would be happy to call this a 'fair share'. Their response was that if all countries adopted this attitude the whole global emissions scheme would collapse. I replied 'exactly'. Will that happen? No, unless we can persuade our poliicians that just offering something that is less suicidal than the opposition is absolutely unacceptable. Absolutely everyone who reads this and wants the ETS gone must write a submission to etsconsultation@climatechange.govt.nz Neil

*Why is National so keen to be tossed out on its ear next election??? Murray

*It is clear that democracy has finally died in NZ. We now live in a full-blown Orwellian dictatorship - one so carefully lathered with the veneer of civility and "elected government" so as to deceive the sleeping NZ populace. Regrettably, the only way forward from here is revolution - there is neither the will nor desire on the part of the "establishment", and certainly not from their UN / globalist masters, to change. Unless "we the people" take radical action now, we will be swept along as easily as the German people before WWII to find ourselves in the same place they did: with an overtly fascist government that controlled their lives by terror and brute force. Rise now, NZ, or be prepared to be mowed down and spat out by the UN / globalist juggernaut - currently perpetrated by National, next time by Labour and so on. As has been observed so often:"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." AND "The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts." Feeling nibbled enough yet? Peter

*Global warming has been tried in two international Supreme Courts, One in Santiago the other in New Mexico, where it failed to be proven. It was proven that the gasses Global Warming condemn are good for our planet. This means your tax is being used to destroy your planet. George

*Plan is totally unreasonable in light of what the Europeans and Aussies have done. Phil

*Drop the whole thing. Sandra

*Stop lying to us!!!!!!!! Its just another tax thats holding the country back!!!!!!!! Stop bullshitting! we are not that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Andy

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*Have noted that on the official notification of credits for pre 1990 forest land that if the act is changed then the Govt will claw back the said credits issued. How uncertain does that make the future? Russell

*Why don't they just take our entire income & give us food parcels to survive. Peter

*All ETS should be abolished - it is tax on scotch mist. Alan

*The national Govt is very fast losing my support. Frank

*Do the parasites in power really believe that the people will keep rolling over for ever. Surely a time will come when Joe average can just afford to live in NZ.For the first time in my life (56) I am seriously considering immigrating. Dave

*As you say just another unnecessary tax. Gareth

*Barry Brill says it all! Carolyn

*Which ever way we look at, no matter how it is dressed up, the E T S is a SUBSIDY, doubled or not. Colin

*More AGW lunacy. Brian

*What a joke the ETS scheme is, just another TAX! Peter

*I don't trust National. Barry

*Even the current cost is inane. Peter

*I never supported in the first place (ridiculous). Clark

*Absolutely not. It should never have got to the stage it has now - this is a socialist instigated con, we all know that and for a National Govt to be still going down that road is crazy. It will achieve nothing. Over here in Aussie we are to get our new tax in another couple months, but next year when the current govt gets turned out on its head, the LNP say they are going to dismantle it. We are all hoping so. Graeme

*ETS, RMA, Treat of Waitangi. The 3 straws which within 20 years could easily reduce NZ to third world status! Steve

*There is no such thing as Global Warming. Ken

*They are all dumb and getting dumber. Robert

*Because carbon dioxide is not [as the United Nations make out] a toxin. The imbeciles in our Parliament are condemning 4 billion people to death by starvation over the next 20 years. We need to feed these people, but the tree-hugging, sandal brigade ably led by go-back-to-Aussie-Russell and no-spine-Key will not allow it. Carbon dioxide is needed by all plants to grow. Tomato farmers feed it into their greenhouses (that's why they are green with tomato plants). All the "extra" carbon dioxide around should be celebrated! It provides a possibility we will be able to save some of the 4 billion people the Green Party, Greenpeace, the Labour Party and the National Party will condemn to death by starvation. Wake up! We cannot feed the world's current population and now we are deliberately condemning billions of people to die from starvation. That shows a level of humanity not seen since the holocaust. Well done, John and Russell! Mark

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*They can't help themselves, any excuse to collect revenue for an out of control exchequer. Willy

*The Government has just been through an election campaign, and has no mandate to convert the ETS into a new tax. Another tax is the last thing we need as we struggle to survive the GFC. Clarence

*We just cannot afford the costs in the current economic climate...Kiwis are struggling now and giving away all our land or selling off to foreigners does not help either. Audrey

*The government of the day are always looking for a way to take our hard earned money from us in some semi legal way. Climate change may be happening. But how can anyone believe that taxing the nation is going to change this? Catherine

*For those who read this get your debts cleared by December 2012. Ian

*I despair of ever having an honest government in NZ again. If only I had gone to Oz 20 years ago. This ETS is the biggest fraud of the century. Jo

*So-called "climate change" has yet to be proved. The ets is a tax like any other. John

*No way will I ever support this robbery. They should be deeply ashamed of themselves for doing this. Aphrodite

*It is a tax that should never have been introduced in the first place. Now it definitely should not be doubled, in fact it should be rescinded. Robyn

*CO2 is very good. Pay me for producing more! Ross

*I do not support any carbon tax, it is a rort perpetuated by the hand wringing “we have to do something and this is all we can come up with” brigade and will do absolutely nothing to change climate, the whole sustainability thing is a complete waste of effort until we have a sustainable (read as not increasing out of control) population, but who has the balls to tackle that one. John

*1500 times NO! Wendy

*Why do we keep getting idiots in a position of power? Carolyn

*They have not told us what the money is used for. Glenn

*Too many other countries are doing nothing! Peter

*Is there any evidence that this money is being used to counter global warming? If not, surely it is a fraud!! Michael

*The Goverment does not have a mandate to do this and the facts do not require it. Lindsay

*As a pensioner, have had far too many hits on my dwindling savings. Graeme

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National's plan to double the cost of the Emissions Trading Scheme over the next three years?

*When our planet starts cooling which it will do to a greater extent some day, will the government tax us more to protect us from the devastating effects of man made(western countries only) "global cooling". John

*No, no no! The whole ETS is a fraud. It is based on the theory of man-made global warming which is being pushed by radical environmentalists. It is time the government stood up to them instead of caving in all the time. Sally

*When you look at how the Aussies are treating their citizens with how our government treats us over this whole carbon tax nonsense, it is no wonder that so many Kiwis are going to Australia. Pete

*The last thing the country needs is new taxes! Simon

*A tax on carbon is a tax on progress. This is madness coming from a government that claims it wants to see economic growth and NZ closing the gap with Australia. Jim

*We need another tax like a hole in the head! Barbara

*If this carbon tax comes in it will be the last straw for our family - we will definitely pack up and go to Australia. At least there the opposition has promised to throw out the carbon tax at the next election, so it won't last long. It's time New Zealanders stopped being so passive. this is our life these people are screwing up! Tom

*This is just another excuse for another tax... Does this govt think we all have money trees??? It is time for NZers to throw out those in the beehive...literally !!! and run the country themselves..NO parties !!!!!! Bara