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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO CHALLENGE CLAIMS & CLAIMANTS 110912
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Do you believe the growing trend to give iwi co-governance rights over public resources such as rivers, mountains, parks and reserves is in the best interest of the country?


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*Words fail me, I used to love NZ now i'm not so sure. John

*The gifting of our national assets to maori must be stoped now. Col

*All of the above belong to New Zealanders as a whole and not a select few that will and have stopped growth for the general good ie with the mountains we cannot relocate or change the skiing area as iwi will not approve and so all new zealander's that enjoy recreation cannot enjoy to mountains to their best protential. This is just one example that affects a hugh number of New Zealander's. Brenda

*172 years on it is the finish of it. The Maoris have had far more than they should have.We are one country and not a segregated society like the Maori activists would have for their own greedy personal gain.Let us move on as one meaning all races together and equally. Errol

*This has to be the biggest betrayal of all NZ non-maori in the country's history. The sell out by John 'crawler' Key and that idiot Finlayson will forever be a blight on the history of racialism equality in our country.Damn them and the greedy maori who are ripping the rest of us off. Bill

*Time to stop this nuisance - from a Maori / European. Ann

*I think it is divisive and dangerous. We also cannot afford to split our financial base in this way. Doris

*I'm sick to death of all this racist stuff. Craig

*We appreciate the good work that you are doing. Well done. Grenville

*No absolutely not it is racist. Annette

*Competent goverment departments are better able to manage our resources than self interested iwi groups. Tim

*All the compelling reasons to vote "No" are eloquently underscored in your latest article on the subject". Mike

*Helen Clark signed into law an end date for historic claims from Sept 1st 2008 why are they still putting in claims. Astrid

*The Government has been elected by the people to o/see and maintain. not selfappointed money grubbers. Bryant

*We are all kiwi. Not NZ asian european indian maori pasific island or any other people that make up this great nation. George

*These resources belong to everyone in NZ (ie) no double dipping. Vernon

*Enough is enough. NZ is for ALL New Zealanders regardless of ethnicity. Maori are no more special than non-maori. It is time the treaty of waitangi was binned, and all NZ'ers moved on together for the best of the country and all those living in it. Murray

*The major premise for the majority of Maori claims under the Treaty of Waitangi, & the more recent spate of foreshore/seabed, fresh-water & air, is that Maori were here first & are thus the original owners. There is a body of evidence, both physical & verbal, that shows this is not true. When Maori invaded the disposessed & enslaved (& probably ate) the original inhabitants. Even when they occupied territory it was at the whim of stronger tribes. Hence the "lawlessness" & the need (& welcome) for the Treaty. Dave

*There must be a end to the Treaty Demands , so all New Zealanders are treated equally. John

*The old saying cunning as a maori dog was never truer. Paul

*Kiwis are so politically lazy and that ends up by us being plain ignorant. Kiwis see images of scruffy maoridom. Nothing could be further from the truth behind the TOW strings and mirror show. Among others, NZ Herald is totally corrupt. Frank

*This gravy train need to stop. Robert

*Where are the rights for New Zealander's descended from Europeans in NZ, BEFORE the treaty ??
The treaty was for everyone in NZ at that time.
Where is OUR settlement ?
NZ has sadly become as racist as the Mugabe regime in Zimbabwe. Ken

*It is wrong simply because it is undemocratic. Giving one group of New Zealanders favoured status is divisive and undesirable. Kenneth

*Why should they. Electricity generation was not part of pre European NZ.
It is just a cash grab as is the norm now with the Waitangi land claims almost complete, it now wants to grab anything and everything with the eventual aim of a complete take over of everything they can clip the ticket and do no real work for. Ian


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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO CHALLENGE CLAIMS & CLAIMANTS 110912
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:07 pm 
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*Maori greed and weak Govt. are creating a dangerous situation. The ultimate solution does not bear thinking about. Maori all pull together to get what they want. Non maori have to rely on the Govt. to look after their interests.They should be protecting the silent majority instead of always giving in to the spurious demands of a very small vocal bunch of radicals. We need some democracy for a change. The Govt. should go back and cancel every thing that is racist and that includes fishing "rights". No more special privilages based on race which is apartheid. From now on everybody gets treated the same. Ray

*LET ALL NEW ZEALANDERS LIVE UNDER THE SAME RULES
Cut from legislation all racial distinctions.
Remove all special privileges based on ethnicity, in health, 
education and our political system.
End all selection of members of boards and councils based on a persons ethnicity.
Eliminate all ownership of land, water or air based on race.
End any special consultation by local authorities with
groups based on there ethnicity.
End all acceptance of ethnic spiritual beliefs as a 
basis for legislation.
End all Government payments to organisations or groups
based on there ethnicity. Austin

*Just yesterday I heard on the news that 13 schools are to be closed in the christchurch area. The day before some militant maori and his iwi were given 170 million dollars of tax payers money ...absolutely not acceptable. Chuck

*The claims must stop. Anyone born in this country is an idigenous New Zealander. Ken

*When did a culture in any part of the world have rights to any part of nature, this is an outrage and iwi leaders should be ashamed of themselves. Wendy

*When will it ever end and what will they think of next? Grant

*Time to stop the madness. Mike

*The result of a snap election based on this issue would be interesting. It seems most people have had a guts full of this continuing greedy grab by the so called maori elite and their fancy lawyers. John

*If the National Government doesn't want to govern without these sort of ad hoc deals then they should resign. Ivan

*Thank you John Key for the final nail in the NZ coffin. When you put Chris Finlayson on your list you knew exactly what he was and who he was. Thank you to my father and grand father for fighting in a war to give freedom and equal rights to NZ. I'm just glad you are not here to see what Govts have done since the 80s. Civil war is on its way. Perhaps John Keys son can then fight for his country. My sons won't as they are now Austrlians.
John Key and your National party are traitors to NZ. I have never felt so sad and sickened in my life. Hate is a strong word but I feel hatred to the NZers who have let this happen and encouraged it. I am proud of my heritage and proud to be a non Maori new zealander. I would like Mr Key to explain why he has no regard for my race. I am not a Pakeha, that word is filthy and rude to me. Like me calling a Maori a Hori, which I don't do. Chris

*Absolutely not! Why is the point not laboured that no historic claims can be made after 1st Sept.2008? Excellent article fr.Elizabeth Rata. Monica

*All New Zealanders are the "public" not a vociferous minority. Peter

*We are all New Zealanders and NZ belongs to all of us. Michelle

*I can't think of one that would be acceptable to print!! One people, one nation otherwise apartheid, here we come. Brian

*It is ridiculous and will promote disharmony in this country. Peter


*Treaty Settlements to date shlould provide Maori with more than enough wealth to provide for their own. It's time we put a stop to this ongoing thievry of our assets. It sgetting very close to Maori enaging in civil disobeience. Time for an early election John Key. The silent majority will speak out! Ian

*How can any group of people own the water next the air bs stick to your guns key were all kiwis. Mark

*Good old Kiwi apathy will have pakeha suddenly finding themselves truly second class citizens without ever having seen it coming. It's time to understand and act. Jerry

*These early invaders of NZ, do not, never have and never will have exclusive ownership of the country. They are a rabble that will ultimately destroy NZ if not checked now. Des

*We do well to remember that NZ politicians are not naive in this respect. Indeed, they are fully aware of what they are doing. What most NZers have yet to realise is that the people we "vote" into the Beehive, whose salaries come from our sweat & toil, don't work for us. They work for the UN, who works for the globalists. NZ is just a large scale social laboratory for the UN & their masters, and has been so for over 40 years. Stand back and look at the big picture: we're nothing more than a bunch of battery hens, our lives dictated by a select group of people who care as much for our personal well-being as does the farmer with 100,000 caged chooks... The time for revolution is now - provided NZers can get their heads out of their butts long enough to be bothered. Of course, there's probably some riveting realty show on TV that's more important right now... :-\ Peter

*Where will the craziness end?! We are now a multi cultural country with citizens from all over the world - join the 21st century and stop living in the past! Jackie

*Nobody ever says anything about the provision of a written language and the use of English by the Maori. John

*That will just result in a further encumbrance to decision making. Brian

*Thanks for your website, it still gives me hope for this country. Keith



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO CHALLENGE CLAIMS & CLAIMANTS 110912
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:48 pm 
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Do you believe the growing trend to give iwi co-governance rights over public resources such as rivers, mountains, parks and reserves is in the best interest of the country?


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*Absolutely ridiculous! Mark

*NZ has had a gutsful. Graeme

*It is time the government of the day said we have had enough of this all claims settled by 2015. Geoff

*It will make us a corrupt third world tribal run backwater within a couple of decades. Lech

*We are one nation!!! Patsy

*The sooner the treaty is sorted and buried and we can become one uner the terms of the treaty the better for all in our country. Graham

*This racist direction we are heading saddens me. by this decade end we will be a divided nation with violent militant action as NZ's finally wake up to what has been given away by successive governments since the 80's. John

*And on and on and on it goes - gimme, gimme, gimme!!! Sandra-Leigh

*Water rights issue regarding state asset sales is a complete nonsense. The water was already being used and whether the governmant allows me to buy a share of a power company will not change that fact either way. Steve

*This madness MUST stop. John Key is, without a doubt, the only person with the means to initiate such a hold, but does he have the guts to protect the future on NZ. Right now I shudder to think of the NZ that my grandchilren will grow up in - that is, if they have not, like tens of thousands of others, left the country for a better non-racial future in another country. Carl

*Maori greed and spineless politicians are dividing the country and we all stagnate and suffer instead of moving forward. Carole

*Rivers, mountains, parks,wind etc belong to all peoples in the NZ. It is time for the Government of any party to stop pandering to the select few Maori demanding these rights. STOP CONNING your fellow citizens. Robina

*We are past the point of fair redress from the ancient past and now in an age of reverse racism. I am extremely concerned in the current handling of opportunistic Maori claims but nowhere near as concerned as I would be should we endure a left wing equivalent government who have to deal with the same issues. As seems to be a common thread, as long as MMP still exists along with it so does the ability to of minor parties such as the Maori party to manipulate political direction. I think this is commonly called the tail wagging the dog! New Zealand cannot afford a multibillion dollar treaty industry, nor is it fair or even remotely sensible to have raced based policy. The tide may well have turned as New Zealanders like me are sick to my eye teeth. Inevitably this slow boiling pot is close to boiling over. Russ

*This country is being held to ransom by a militant group of Maori who are being given everything they ask for by the government. Betty

*We are past the point of fair redress from the ancient past and now in an age of reverse racism. I am extremely concerned in the current handling of opportunistic Maori claims but nowhere near as concerned as I would be should we endure a left wing equivalent government who have to deal with the same issues. As seems to be a common thread, as long as MMP still exists along with it so does the ability to of minor parties such as the Maori party to manipulate political direction. I think this is commonly called the tail wagging the dog! New Zealand cannot afford a multibillion dollar treaty industry, nor is it fair or even remotely sensible to have raced based policy. The tide may well have turned as New Zealanders like me are sick to my eye teeth. Inevitably this slow boiling pot is close to boiling over. Russ

*We are all equal under the law and there should be no exceptions. Janet

*Nobody should own water, wind or the seabed. Isabel

*This is total rubbish all iwi want is money for free get their people off there backsides and into work instead bludging on us taxpayers. Allan

*Tired of this & it needs to be nipped in the bud as it is spiraling out of control. Mike

*This lunacy MUST STOP NOW ! Laurie

*Our political leaders need to wake up to the fact that they are blatantly being manipulated and controlled by experts, rendering them weak and almost useless in representing the majority of NZer. Jane

*Maori claims are outrageous, divisive and are creating an apartheid. If they want Civil War keep going and they'll get it. Non-Maori have had enough of the freeloaders. Russ

*Iwi shoud have no special claim to rights over these recourses they belong to all New Zealanders. John

*ENOUGH IS ENOUGH EITHER WE ARE ALL NZers OR WE ARE NOT. FRANK

*Flipping monkey idiots on the same plane as moronic moslems but even less intelligent. Christopher

*No of course not this was all decided in 2008 that there was to be no more claims / if this happens we will never move on in this country. Joan

*The maoris a pulling this country down. But How they can make these outrageous claims, and keep a straight face, is beyond my understanding. Time for Key to grow a pair. Neil

*Thank goodness some New Zealander is articulating our concerns as to what is happening in NZ. We are sheep and beef farmers, the restrictions being placed on us by the regional councils, means it is hardly worth staying in NZ. The Moari nonsence is so out of hand. Denis

*Time for all to be equal. NO to more requests from Maori. Morris

*If NZ is to survive as a viable country we must find a person who will lead the population into a position of every person is equal. Regardless of race, colour or creed. We must get rid of Maori seats in Parliament and the Treaty. We are all equal. Ernest

*I have had enough of this nonsense. I don't feel I live in NZ anymore. Martha

*I and hundreds of thousands of New Zealanders have had an absolute gutsful of all these spurious claims being made by Maori. Mike

*We are extremely tired of the so-called Treaty claims.When do we have a government strong enough to put an end to it for ever and get on with reducing the enormous debt? Mary

*No-one owns water, no-one owns air,no-one owns nuclear fusion, well not yet anyway. Geoff

*They belong to us all to be the care takers of. Gaye

*Some Maori have gone too far. They have forgotten how to be decent and honorable people. Judith

*We seem to be powerless to stop this erosion of our rights. Roger




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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO CHALLENGE CLAIMS & CLAIMANTS 110912
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*When are we ever going to wake up to the Maori conspiracy in our country. How dumb do we have to be to believe that the treaty document can be so misconstrued by so many for the benefit of so few. We will never move forward as a nation as long as we allow ourselves to be shackled by the past. The treaty saved Maori from themselves but now it seems they won't rest until they have it all. Seems like history repeating itself. Cyril

*Canterbury farmers and West Coast gold dredgers have been accessing our rivers for decades without Maori claims. Why.? Because Maori would never successfully collect money from vast numbers of people. But from a Government with lots of money.? Maori are only gold diggers.!!! Trevor

*To me it is the thin eadge of the wedge and they will keep putting pressure on for overall control. Murray

*When will positive discrimination in favour of the minority of New Zealanders stop? The people responsible for making these claims must be stopped and the politicians who allow the continuation of these "settlements" must be made to see the majority of New Zealanders have had enough. Stewart

*The iwi groups have proven themselves to be self-serving money grabbing entities looking out only for their own interests at the expense of every other kiwi. David

*Sniveling, weak politicians have bought NZ to this position! No matter that the public in general have been voicing concern for years now! Greed for power, and greed for money are the two driving forces behind the current outcomes. Dell

*It is dividing the country. Maria

*I have a growing concern that public access to these things will be restricted if we don't stand up and do something NOW. Alice

*We should all be New Zealanders with common rights regardless of our racial background. David

*I can't believe we live in a democracy when one group has special rights compared to the majority. In every way Maori are represented by our democratically elected government and they also have their own method of having another access to rights the rest of us don't have. Chris

*It's madness and totally contravenes democracy. The current government has gone mad, totally spineless. Angela

*All NZers should be treated equal. Rick

*It is incredibly divisive and will only cause enormous harm to race relations in NZ. It is nothing but pure greed but then if Pakeha politicians are dumb enough to give it away....then who is the fool? Mike

*All this does is encourage the greed of Maori elite. When are they instead going to do something about the crime, violence and welfare dependency of Maori? Maurice

*This is NOT what the Treaty of Waitangi said, it is contrary to reason and common sense, and it will be the economic and cultural death of this country. ONE PEOPLE, ONE LANGUAGE, ONE COUNTRY - NOW! Al

*Matters are just going over the top and it must be a major concern to most New Zealanders. Fay

*The growing trend towards what I see as a racist country is a major concern. I am a proud New Zealander who feels that we should be able to live together in harmony without all the divisive trends. I appreciate Maori culture but am fast losing my pride in it because of the factions which are dividing us all. Fay

*The gov't will give away our freedoms and democracy for political support, sell us down the river. Don

*If Finlayson is still a minister come next election I will not consider giving them my vote. John

*Maori will take better care & be alot fairer than what it is now, Pakeha have had the run of things too long and everything they have done is for their own benefits, Maori will be a better at the table and not under it. James

*The Maori claimants will not stop until they are told "NO". Gay




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*Maori are not tangata whenua of NZ as they were not first here and are but the penultimate invaders and as such have no better claims to resources than do subsequent european settlers. In short the resources are not 'theirs' under article 11 of T.O.W. William

*It is fatally flawed as it perpetuates the ongoing grievance industry.e.g. the Waikato River and the Uraweras are here for eternity. But by giving Maoris a governance role they not only continue to exercise tribal power, privilege, financial rights, thereby encouraging them to cling to their stonage tribal system - a total anathema - completely at odds with a modern society.
Once again New Zealand continues to be stuck with an ancient albatross rotting round our necks as Australia and the western world moves on! Frank

*Time to grow up !!!!!! Creating apartheid is moronic!!!!! Andy

*Maori are both trying it on, laughing at us to see how stupid the rest of us can be. And in for anything with a dollar in it. I fully agree with Jonathan above. Sheila

*When will we wake up to the fact that these outrageous claims are made by people who may have more pakeha than maori blood in their veins. Eneka

*This has gone too far. Nobody, but nobody owns the water. Graeme

*Government out of control. Bryon

*It's all about jobs (and big pay packets) for the boys isn't it? Fiona

*Nationals need to retain the support of the Maori Party in order to stay in government has as much to do with with runaway Maori claims as anything else. Why does National insist on direct negotiation rather putting claimants to the task of establishing rights in court? How public or transparent is this negotiation process? Trevor

*The disgusting john key is destroying our country more every day. He should have dumped the "treaty" and the "tribunal" and everything special for part-horis on his first morning as sham "prime minister". Barry

*ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. GORDON

*It should be the saame for everyone. When will they stop their demands? Judith

*We all know all the reasons why not. Claire

*Justified in the case of Tuhoe as the Govt stole a lot of Te Urewera off them. Ron

*Knowing how "Treaty Claims" have gone in the recent past, "co-governance" is the thin end of a very thick wedge. It will result in further claims and Iwi wanting financial rewards. Wayne

*We are being sold out by this present government because they don't have the guts to stand up to Maori activists. Even within Maoridom, there is a huge majority opposed to the scandalous claims of the stirrers. This whole deal has got to stop and a government with some backbone and initiative gets put in place. John

*It is high time we stop this nonsense. We must be the laughing stock of the world. Come on Mr Key show some steel. Desmond

*The only people who benefit are the leaders of iwi, the losers the rest of NZ especially the forgotten urban Maori who have never seen a single dollar come their way. Doug

*Infatically no; it must be stopped, permanently. Bruce

*There will be no end to the Maoris' demands until some government has the gumption to say, enough is enough. Maori, i.e., their corporations, been given much and they want more. There is no such thing as co-governance or partnership under the Treaty (see Article 1). Why won't John Key apply the law re final date for lodging claims and refuse to entertain any further Treaty claims? We desparately need this sort of leadership to save our country, as Treaty claims are ruining our economy. Laurence

*I am an immigrant to this country. I have lived here 47 years. I came from a very cosmopolitan world. I do not believe in apartheid, which is the NZ that we now live in now. Perhaps all races other than Maori should leave, taking all that they have brought. Lets see how the Maori then survive. Sorry I've had enough. Dave

*Definitely NOT in the interest of NZ..More in the interest of a race based separation of state assets!!!..But Key will do anything for the vote..regardless! Rick



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*It would appear that such co-governance is only the beginning of their demands of ownershipo not the end. Owen

*How are we ever to bring this tot to a halt each govt come along and not one has any spine to stop this march of Maori as I have said before a lot of Maori have been just involved in building this country and to see the greedy come and rob there own is a disaster to all but give them enough rope they will hang themselves eventually. Russell

*One law for all. Don

*Great if your one of the Maori elite, bad if your not. We must all stand up and stop this once and for all. Breent

*This Has To Stop. Look to what has happened in Zimbabwe. Rod

*It's apartheid! Michael

*Because it won't stop there. Lee

*Simply put, I'm tired of feeling like a second class citizen in my own country...what about all the other nationalities that form NZ. Its time for change, its time for equality! Geoff

*Time for our leaders to toughen up and deny any more such requests. Mike

*At least Fiji is looking for equality, perhaps that's why Key is at odds with them being he's an APATHIED promoter. Stuart

*We are all one people with equal rights and privileges. Keith

*Scrap the treaty, end of problem. Bob

*No I do not, but as long as John Key remains the gutless person he so obviously is, and as long as Findlayson is in charge of so called treaty settlements we are in real danger of having the whole country given away. I would never have expected this sort of rubbish from a National government. It is just sickening. Jim

*We have gone way too far. No wonder Kiwis are fleeing overseas. It is so painful watching our land being given away to this group of racists. Unbelievable!! Brian

*The idea that one ethnic group should have more power than the majority is abhorrent to me and while the commonwealth historically followed this path in the past why are we trying to follow the wrongs in todays modern generation. David

*Representation should be through parliament. This is the democratic way. John

*When will our politicians wake up! Peter

*The opportunistic and dishonest claims must be STOPPED. BARRY

*Forgive me if I am wrong or maybe being just simplistic. But wasn't the treaty signed between the representative of the Queen and the british government! So why do the maori not go the british for redress?? Because they would be told where to get off thats why!!! CW

*Don Brash spoke about the danger of race based legislation. Ronald

*They are OUR rivers, mountains etc. not THEIRS! Susan

*How can something that is given to 10% of the population, be in any way conceived as being in the best interest of any one excepting the nominated 10%. Ngapuhi are now going for the wind win scenario.I was of the opinion, that only the politician suffered from oral flatulence. Mr Rankin it would appear is also worthy of this accolade. There is of course the option of nominating Judge Neave for a position on the Waitangi Tribunal. This would really insure that justice is indeed seen to be done. His track record in the courts would surely attest to this.... ......Then maybe not.!!!! Wiremu

*It will divide this country and eventually lead to civil war. Fraser

*If there was no money in it, they wouldn't be interested. They are "taking the piss" and getting away with it. I am one of the many New Zealanders who had had a guts full and left. These greedy half breeds are not getting a penny of my money. Murray

*It is absolutely abhorrent that this government gives way to all these claims. Mr Finlanson is a biased idividual and is not speaking for the majority and wellbeing of NZers. Bob

*Give them nothing. Make them work for it. Next they will want the Wind, well they can all stand in a line and Fart together. That's all they will get. Graham

*We all know all the reasons why not. Claire

*Enough is too much. I have had a gutsful of the Iwi's demands. Sherrol

*What ever happened to the 2008 rule? These claims are illegal surely?! Rick

*It all has to stop. Peter




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*I'm a New Zealander too
Why should anybody have more rights than me.
I was born here where am I to go when I'm pushed out of the county by Maori.
Will I be taken in by Aussie as a refugee.
Wake up you POLITICIANS.
YOUR GIVING OUR COUNTY AWAY.
This will only end in a CIVIL WAR. Nigel

*Given that Mr Banks has burned his bridges with his appalling Creationist remarks, I'll be voting Labour for the first time in my life if Mr Key gives in to Maori claims for water rights. David

*We are all in big trouble ahead. Grant

*We should ALL share in that governance equally via public entities like DOC. Andrew

*A thousand times NO. All citizens should have equal rights in the natural resources of the country. What happened to racial equality? Rob

*No one race should have rights over and above any other. EQUALITY for ALL NZers. Karen

*The current direction of iwi is counter to the spirit in which this country was founded.
This country was founded on a spirit of hard work and just reward, no matter ones background or heritage.
Giving privilege to one group of citizens due to there ethnic background is wrong, and it must be recognised for what it is, and stopped. Andrew

*We are all New Zealanders and should share. Katherine

*I cannot countenance NZ with a priviliged minority taking more than their share. Martin

*But how do just a relatively small number of people instigate change, what happens from here? Megan

*Ultimately a major claim will be the air around us, like water, think very hard about about this, it is a basic fundamental right of all and to allow it to be exploited would be devastating. Neville

*In fact this nonsence must be stopped now. Elvin

*A bloody outrage!!!!!! Tim

*I'm more in favour of total reversal of all co-governance arrangements and put everything back into Crown ownership for ALL Kiwis to enjoy equally. Tony

*To get ahead all NZ'rs need to work together. Christine

*This nonsense must stop. Michael

*Basically all people in NZ are immigrants or descendants of imigrants. We all came here by canoe, boat, ship or aircraft at some time or other!! Jon

*Co governance will lead to claims for complete governance which as long as Chris Findlayson has anything to do with them will be approved, when Metiria Turei comes out and says a maori claim is unjustified the line has definitely been crossed but unfortunately the apathetic majority won’t react until is is way too late. John

*It has to stop! Murray



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 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - TIME TO CHALLENGE CLAIMS & CLAIMANTS 110912
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:51 am 
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This week's poll asks

Do you believe the growing trend to give iwi co-governance rights over public resources such as rivers, mountains, parks and reserves is in the best interest of the country?

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*Of course it is not in the best interests of the New Zealand. At least the Helen Clark led Labour government knew when a line needed to be drawn. John Key insists that nobody owns the water, air , sun etc but then starts negotiating compensation with his grasping maori party mates. If the treaty is such a partnership why do we not have a government body representing the non-maori of this country? Why not change maori names to english until we have a 50/50 balance? All the major political parties spout about equality under the law but cave in to racist pressure at the first hurdle. Just ask any European over 65 whether appeasement works! John

*It's all crazy, I can't believe the country is even discussing this, it's the stuff of fairy tales. Gregg

*Finlayson and Key are in debt to the maori mafia. Everybody knows that once in debt to the mafia there is no way out....unless not elected again! Goodbye democratic NZ, hello apartheid NZ! Derek

*In most countries traitors are given a blindfold and a place to stand. In NZ they are given jobs like PM and Minister of Treaty Settlements! Louis

*It's time that this reverse racism was addressed once and for all, with some gutsy action by National:
- abolish the Maori seats
- abolish the Maori Council
- draw a line under treaty settlements
- abolish subsidies, scholarships, education systems that differentiate on the basis of race
- put an end to separatist policies and programmes.
Jonathan

*Maori separatism is out of control. We are one nation one people. Willy

*If John Key fails to check Maori Greed. This country must rise up to stop the Maori elite from permanently dividing New Zealand. We are on the edge of the precipice; it is now a question of who governs this country. Brian

*Maori ceded sovereignty in 1840 in the Treaty of Waitangi and they again confirmed their understanding of the Treaty at the 'runanga' at Kohimarama in 1860... Te Ahukaramu advising "First, God: secondly, the Queen: thirdly, the Governor. Let there be one Queen for us. Make known to us all the laws, that we may all (Maori and Pakeha) dwell under one law..."
What's changed??? Les

*They have forgot the Moon & Mars. Mike


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