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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - APARTHEID NEW ZEALAND 071012
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*It already is. I no longer live and pay taxes in New Zealand. These bullshit artists aren't getting a penny of my money. Murray

*Aparthied is here now. I marched alongside thousands of NZ'ers in 1981 never for one minute believing we would be in this position thirty years on. John

*It already is, John key is going to have trouble winning the next election, A good new party will start up & take away his voters. Where is the press on all this they are saying nothing it is time some they did. Geoff

*Where is John Minto on all this I notice he has gone to ground. Geoff

*The National government is too soft in dealing with Maori demands - or is it too scared to do so? They are fast leading us down a slippery slope towards separatism based on race. The "co-governance" of Urewera is a joke! It's the thin edge of the wedge toward Maori sovereignty of the ex-National Park. It' time the government took a tough approach to the ludicrous demands of its coalition partner and the Maori elite, and called a halt to any further claims. They should also state that "full and final settlements" are what they say, and that there will be no more payouts. The huge amounts being paid out to Maori are not helping the country's financial position. Laurence

*It is pretty obvious if one looks at the separatist legislation. Andrew

*It is high time that the govt take a firm stand. Desmond

*Yes, but its completely and easily fixed. i.e. a Govt with the guts to get rid of the Waitangi Tribunal, flush this false Treaty down the toilet. It will certainly be a huge election issue. Bruce

*Not in danger of becoming.. we already are. the worst part is the racist Maori radical nutters make all Maori look bad. Most of us Maori arent racist and dont push for the racist crap the radicals push for. Yet we are all tarred with the same brush. Its the governments fault for bowing down to them. Blame the goverment, not Maori. Abe

*Is already a separatist nation, when minorities have special privileges reserved for them then there is very obviously something big wrong with the country's constitution. Chris

*Pakeha may not join a Maori team but Maori can join the All Blacks. Noticed that when I came to NZ in 1997 from South Africa. Veronica

*While we have MMP all governments will suffer unfair leverage of minority issues. Dave

*Some Maoris are choosing to turn NZ into an apartheid country and taking every opportunity to disenfranchise other NZers for their own benefit. Sonia

*The Government ave a golden opportunity to go to the people with a binding referendum to make NZ one nation and one law for all. Do it now before it is too late. Key could do this and show some leadership which is certainly lacking at this time. John

*We already have an apartheid culture based on special privilege for people thsat identify themselves as the representatives of Maori. Charlie

*It is too late and has already become one. I was disgusted to read that Ngai Tahu Holdings had made a profit for the last year of $95.66 million and does not have to pay either company tax or G.S.T. Yes, racial discrimination is alive and well and is living in NZ but only against the Pakeha. Ralph

*The Govt should go to the country on "one country, one people" and destroying the Treaty of Waitangi. They would be returned in a land slide. Bill

*Bob Jones says it as it is. We are already an apartheid nation. This article should be compulsory reading for our pathetic prime minister. He should then sack his (list MP) Finlayson, who MUST have a touch of Maori blood in his racist brain!!! Is key stupid or unaware of what is happening? Perhaps he doesn't care as he has the option of leaving this racist country after messing up in his power crazed 2 terms. Carolyn

*I have seen where some friends got permission to go on the beach from the iwi and another member of the tribe came and said no get off with threats We do not need their permission in the 1st place as it is a free to go onto the beaches in NZ. Cherryl

*Wrong tense; NZ already is an apartheid nation... Grant

*Approximately 12 years ago my south african neighbour at the time had been in NZ for six months, his comment to me, one which i`ll never forget. " We had apartheid in South Africa,and now it is part of history. It's more subtle, but without doubt, New Zealand definitely has apartheid going on today with Maori`s controlling and shaping this country`s future, why do NZer's allow it ? I couldn't answer him at that time but if I knew him now I would tell him that subversive strategies by tribal elite and political impotence has combined over time to give Maori far too much governance, ( cause effectively that`s what it is )and far far too much of our GDP handed out. I would also tell him that the tide is turning, momentum is growing. History will show that New Zealand will be for all New Zealander`s,when in history remains unclear, however, when it happens, history will also show that people, the power of average New Zealander`s made it happen. We can`t afford to lose, there is too much at stake. Glen

*When one sector our society is favoured over another as we have seen increasingly since the National party came to power, then it's only a question of time before we reap the havoc of what has been sown. Ivan

*We're blindly bequeathing a legacy of division where ignorant perception of "injustice" based on manipulated "facts" is taken as gospel. Irrespective of truth, personal belief sponsors social action. If this continues the consequences for our peaceful nation will be catastrophic. achievement this lay all the blame for. Enraged mobs have traditionally not been overly concerned with looking at objective truth. an of trying to stop it will be huge. Bernie

*Maori only account for 14/ of NZ population. So what about the other 84/ of population. So much for NZs democracy. William

*But we have been an "apartheid" nation for decades. It is that with the incessant Maori demands and a Government bound by the rules of MMP it has highlighted the problem.
The answer lies in John Key having the intestinal fortitude to call an election on the issue of Water?Air and other "so called rights" that Maori are demanding.
He will not, of course, attempt such a measure. P.M. Sydney Holland would have. But then Holland was a Statesman, and Key only a consummate politician looking for re-election at all costs. Brian

*How many countries have 2 national Anthems????????1 country. 1 people. 1 direction. Roger

*Unfortunately we are already an apartheid country and would be the last bastion of racial privilege. The insatiable quest for more is primarily due to weak Governments particularly National who it appears readily accept the situation and have abandoned leadership in favour of the Maori Party and the Waitangi Tribunal Key makes futile gestures of leadership which we all know will be watered down when confronted by the new Maori leaders of N.Z. Colin

*Time the government took off the blinkers and read the book To the ends of the earth.by maxewell C Hill It clearly sets out the great maori myth. It is time the artefacts that pre-date maori were acknowledged. Even the nanes given to the people that predate Maori. Moriori, Patupaiarehe, and Waitaha people were here hundreds of years before maori and they know it. Its time the truth came out. Stan

*The time has come to do away with Maori as a choice for "race" the only choice required is "New Zealander" and I am One of them. Rick

*Trying to resurrect tribalism is stupid and dishonest! Max

*Maori where 5 in line to discover NZ. NZ was settled before BC "To the end of the earth" by Maxwell Hill.
Maori possessed land by conquest and cannibalism, and sold to the Crown land that didn`t belong to them and while living through grievances and skullduggery without consideration of the benefits of NZ`ers clothing, cars,food, electricity, building materials, cellphones etc are takers without an ounce of gratitude. Robert

*It is time to abolish all reference to the treaty! Mark

*Definitely. We need a strong government to say it's finished. Take the multi millions you have, do the best for YOUR PEOPLE' and shut up! No more claims, no more greed, no more underhand agreements with any government. South Africa's apartheid would be a drop in the ocean compared to what NZ would become if these treacherous, hateful tribal leaders are not stopped! God defend New Zealand from lies, greed, treachery, and hateful claims. Maori are still the minority. Why do we not have a government to stand up to them and say loud and clear - ENOUGH!!! CM

*Yes. Both major Parties are to blame and it's time their politicians listened to the non Maori citizens and put a stop to this racial preference nonsense.
I am puzzled as to why the rural conservative voters out there who have traditionally supported National are not putting the hard word on their MPs who up till now have enjoyed safe seats. Well,perhaps they have and are being ignored like the rest of us.
Nothing is going to happen unless the voters themselves take political action. We can complain, we can vent our feelings on posts like these but surely we are whistling in the wind unless enough of us dump the politicians who can't or won't listen to the genuine voice of the people.
As for heading overseas - Australia would be an attractive place to live if I was a few decades younger. Yes, some Australian politicians also ignore their citizens but I predict that the Aussies will put matters right at their next General Election. I wish we could do the same! Denis

*The only thing more abhorrent that racial discrimination is those Maoris that insist on it. Brian

*Unfortunately, the Lange government let the jackals loose with their revisionist history and politicians afterwards allowed this nonsense to continue. It is refreshing to read a description of these opportunists as mixed race. I prefer to call them something more basic and to the point. Those describing themselves as Maoris -not Maori -dropping the s was more of the nonsense, need to understand that the taxpayers do not owe them a free lunch. Indeed they need to understand that education is available to all and ignorance being displayed upon one's shoulder as a badge of honor is somewhat stupid. But then I suppose this goes with the territory....stupid. Charles

*At risk of becoming an “apartheid” nation? Aren't we almost there. No-one has the balls to put an end to it. And the ball is firmly in John Keys court. What is happening is down to him and his un-elected colonel Findlayson. Neil

*Too late. We already are the only "developed" nation actively practising MOARI APARTHEID. Were it not for my three children, I'd not be here pandering to RACIST MOARI. Mark

*MURIEL'S 5 POINT PRINCIPLES MUST BECOME BASIS FOR THE WAY FORWARD. Barry

*We are already an apartheid nation. Whites are discriminated in local and national government. Michael

*We are already there! When New Zealanders wake up, Key and his team will be toast but the Green alternative will take over the advance of apartheid. Irvine

*It seems we have become a nation that continually changes the meaning of words, like one of the bills before parliament now. Since when, did a race, that arrived here in THE GREAT MIGRATION become Indigenous? Ted

*I voted "No" because, tragically, it already is. Dave

*Apartheid is already here,& has been for quite awhile. Maori were not here first, they drove out & ate the Moriori, so are they going to compensate them. Colin

*You are as radical as the Hone Harawiras and Ken Mairs of this world and are doing a great job of whipping up racial tension. Jon

*We already have Apartheid but in reverse, in that the non-Maori New Zealanders are being dictated to by Maori and our current Government does not seem to want to stand up for the bulk of New Zealanders and stop acquiescing to Maori. Dallas



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Do you believe New Zealand is at risk of becoming an “apartheid” nation?


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*Apartheid has been rampant for years in NZ and Key has the foot on the accelerator. Stuart

*It is already an apartheid nation.sack the government. Dona

*Not of becoming an apartheid nation.....we already are one. Ronmac

*I totally agree with what you are saying. Kevin

*Thought it was already here, in reverse to what was already claimed to be. John

*These stupid people don't understand that if someone is 5% maori, then they are 95%NOT MAORI!!!!! Louis

*It already is an apartheid nation. Wayne

*Its getting worse. People are fed up with all the rubbish relating to the so called treaty. Where is Mr Minto, should he not be fighting this 'apartheid'. Valerie

*Yes, very much so. Is the John Key government blind and ignorant of what apartheid has done to other peoples and countries. Shame on them. Angela

*Very much so, although the risk has become a reality. We ARE now an apartheid state - and the very ones who promote this travesty are those who protested AGAINST the 1981 Springbok tour. The Treaty - if you believe in the damned thing - does nothing to advocate apartheid. It merely offers Maori the same rights as British citizens - no more, no less. And people wonder why Kiwis are leaving in droves for greener pastures overseas. Caroline

*The "Maori" All Blacks were omitted from the list!! Ron

*I answered Yes, but in fact it's too late - we already ARE an apartheid nation. But the UN learned from it's mistakes in SA - it knows that the best way to implement racial division and privilege without risking an uprising is by stealth: and what better way than by slowly putting key people in key places who can implement the plan in stages - PC first, then Racial PC, then outright socialism, then Agenda 21, then spurious claims like ownership of the air & water, then ratification of all by the UN, then Maori rule of NZ directly. It's sad that even the tribalists are pawns in this game - the UN & their globalist masters simply find it convenient to experiment with NZ using the racist IWI & their supporters. But the end game is divide, conquer & subdue. After all, while the globalists want to decimate the world's population by 2/3rds, they still need workers and money to be able to setup the end game wipe-out. We are such a bunch of sheep so easily lead to the slaughter - blinded by HiDef TVs, Lotto, booze, parties, drugs & immoral lifestyles. Peter

*Unless the NZ Parliament strengthens its resolve to truly act with equality for all citizen/residents, the it is highly likely we will end up with an apartheid nation, with unreasonable emphasis and bias towards the interests of Maoris only, rather than equality in law & government for all NZ residents! Vol

*The way it is going presently I would say definately yes. Ann

*It deeply concerns me that changes are being quietly introduced which will ultimately result in apartheid in our beautiful country. Heather

*I don't think we are at risk of becoming an apartheid nation, I think we are already there. Adele

*This is a very real threat. Bill

*Cultual Maori crap has gone too far.Disband the Waitangi tribunal as it has no real place in modern NZ society. Ian

*The ex-South African "race relations conciliator" 15 yrs ago warned the Gov that this would happen... now it's too late, it's already happened. He lost his job. Roger

*It's almost there now, weak governments are feeding this maori lust for power and greed, all under the radar, the general public have no idea what their in for. Noel

*Race based election of politicians and leaders can only lead to violence as in Rwanda. Ian

*What do you mean 'becoming'? It is alreday, and has been for a long time. Graeme

*Except that NZ is not so much at risk of this. It IS ALREADY an Apartheid nation. Bottom Line: Abolish Maori seats in parliament for THAT IS apartheid. Geoff

*Heaps of Kiwi's are getting sick of what is going on now - Maori this and Maori that. Time for it to stop. Kelvin

*Giving in to Maori wants is crippling this country. Steve

*Am very concerned about the current trends. Need to put real pressure on Gov. to avoid real racial problems. Bill

*It already is. These special rights and provisions for Maoris are dividing NZ and taking us backwards. Josie

*We are already on the road to apartheid. Jane

*It is already an "apartheid" nation. Is Civil War the next step? Don't think it can not happen in NZ. Martin

*My father who was employed in a Government Department from the 40's on, was an expert witness at Maori Land Court hearings. He said that'way back then, there were over 50 Statutes that discriminated in favour of maori. So apartheid has been here a while now. John

*We will never be 'one' so long as this continues. Gary

*It has got to stop. I'm one of the 40000 who have jumped the ditch for a year or two. It is refreshing to see the natural multicultural atmosphere in Oz instead of NZ's forced and selfish biculturalism. JG

*We are already a race based country. If a person is judged by race then we are certainly an Apartheid nation. Over the years the bulk of the population here have become second class citizens, and by govt stealth. I lived and worked in South Africa in the sixty's surely we don't want or need this type of system here. Laurie

*It is strangling our road to recovery. Margaret

*I think it is high time we stopped using the divisive labels, Maori and Pakeha. We are ALL New Zealanders! Dorothy

*If the Government continues to pander to the Maori requests we shall surely become an apartheid nation. Mary

*As an ex-South African I see all the signs of an emerging apartheid New Zealand. Louw

*Guess that depends on your definition of apartheid. I do believe we have a serious reverse-racism issue. One of the reasons we are looking at moving 'across the ditch' Lyn

*It will be a sad day if this ever happens and will ruin the Country forever! Steve

*It is divisive and unnecessary to segregate NZers on the basis of race. The Treaty of Waitangi should be nullified and NZ become a republic, which would negate the treaty. Dorothy



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*Meet a maori family in Perth in 1982 who left nz because they said there will be racial trouble,its getting close to it. Richard

*N.Z. is already an apatheid nation. Apatheid comes from the Dutch meaning seperate. Keith

*The best way to destroy a nation is to give one ethnic group more rights than any others. This causes resentment and inter-racial animosity. George

*An effort should be made to get your news letter to as many ' ordinary ' Maori as possible. I can not see how the ' average, honest ' Maori citizen would not be embarrassed by what his tribal and corporate elite is trying to do. If things continue the way they are going at present ' Apartheid ' is definitely on the cards. Gerhard

*Though I believe it is already one as Maori have been given rights I can never have and am in danger of losing what rights I have as a third generation New Zealander. Ludicrous as every human in New Zealand is a descendant of an immigrants. John

*If things keep going the way they are, almost certainly. John

*NZ is already an apartheid nation! For example special dispensations for Maori to enter Universities, preference for Maori in Government jobs and unelected Maori members on the Auckland Council. Peter

*The example of the Auckland Council where 2 un elected part Maori are able to commit the council to the waste of $millions shows we are already there. From memory Auckland's population is 59% NZs 20%Asian 15%P.I. and 12% part Maori yet the latter are the special people. Baxter

*The treaty interpretation is out of control and I think pre determined in a way far removed from the original treaty. Joyce

*All this rubbish has to stop !!!!! Graeme

*We are an Apartheid Nation now. I am hoping the Colour Blind party takes off. I heard interview on radio last wk from Mr Ansell and I hope NZers get behind him. If they don't they deserve all they get. I see the Maori were paid money from cell phone providers with more on the way. It's not Apartheid is racist lunacy. Chris

*The handouts to Maori are really working. It showed up well on the Darklands sat Monday night. Clive

*We already have become a nation split by racism. Brian

*It already is. It has been for some time, ever since the "Treaty settlements" rubbish way back. The Treaty is so vague that it should be scrapped. This issue may yet drive us out of the country. Sheila

*I rather think we've already 'developed' our own form of brown appartheid. Tim

*Unfortunately for our children N.Z is already an apartheid nation with a minority culture forced upon them. If you are not a Maori in New Zealand you already have less rights - whanau ora o te Allen o Te Woburn Lower Hutt. Mark

*I think the question is too late and therefore academic. We are already an apartheid nation - at least in law and politically!! Peter

*The noisy Maoris who spend their time sitting on their bums moaning about how rotten the Pakehas are, are a tiny little minority of the Maori people. Most Maoris are hardworking, clever and kind. They have their concerns but just get on with life. I know the answer to the security question off by heart. K

*"At risk"? It IS an apartheid nation already. Delwyn

*Dr Newman, you are correct as usual.Cheers. Mara

*NZ already is an apartheid nation and will only become more so unless ordinary Kiwis get interested in more than just rugby, racing, and beer. Miles
But will this or any government have the guts to put an end to the Treaty and adopt a one race nationality? Maurice

*If this gutless govt.doesn't know the meaning of no more noses in the trough a form of apartheid lies ahead. Stuart

*One Nation, New Zealand. One People,New Zealanders. The price of freedom demands this, nothing more, nothing less. Keith

*Perhaps the simplest solution, since maori is an ill-defined and indeterminate term, every voting citizen should choose to go on the Maori Electoral Roll! Then we shall all enjoy the perks of being one! Paul

*What do successive governments not understand about "We want one New Zealand for ALL New Zealanders"? Stewart

*It is all in this weeks article!! No further explanations required!! Geoff

*Actually, New Zealand is already run along the lines of apartheid. We are not becoming an apartheid nation, we already are and it is dangerous and very, very stupid. Of course ordinary New Zealanders are leaving New Zealand. Who would want to be labelled as incompetent, stupid, bludging and pathetic just because they are Maori or part Maori. The only way to dodge this well earned stigma is to leave and go somewhere where no one will label you automatically based on your name or your skin colour. Dianna



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Excellent commentary as usual from Muriel Newman and David Round.


On 27th August I wrote to an MP - We need a COLOURBLIND GOVERNMENT in this country and believe the next election will be fought on Race-Relations which is progressively leading to Apartheid with part-Maori having special privileges over other New Zealanders. So I had beaten you the dreaded word.


I had originally written on another voting matter and that person responded that he was working on a Private Members' Bill to make referenda binding on the Government.
Now that would be a start if we could get binding referenda.


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*Ask Pita Sharples what constitutes a Maori in law. He will concede that a legal definition does not exist. How then can a legally non-existent entity have any special privileges provided through the medium of the law. The Waitangi Tribunal constitutes utterly compromised and biased representation. It must go. John

*It is only too obvious what the trends are.Also I realize that we have a situation in this country in regards to who or what is a Maori. I Germany (in the 1930ies) the socalled Nuremberger Gesetze established who is is 1/8 1/4 1/3 1/2 jew or not and every German had to deliver a socalled Ariernachweis to proof that he had no Jewish ancestry. We in NZ have now a perverted variant of what I would call a race law.And to get back to the first question: Yes that definetily does help to drive apartheid!!The time will come soon where a minority is ruling over a majority( see sunni and shia islamists , south african apartheid zimbabwe and so on and so forth.Poor New Zealand!!! Michael

*Not only at risk, a certainty, if the complacent majority keep going as they are. Ortwin

*God yes,why should one person born on the sane day at the same place have more rights just because of there race. Nigel

*As a NZer who has lived overseas for some time it looks as though we are becoming another Zimbawe. Garry

*These lying, cheating,conniving racists must be stopped. If it takes a revolution then so be it!! Mike


*Apartheid is already regrettably alive and well in NZ and Key has not got the 'balls' to stop it! Patricia

*How can a Kingi movement which only came about in 1858 as a vain attempt to elevate Maoridom to that of the queen Victoria of the British Empire, have any legitimacy to make such a declaration? Tan Ngata

*NZ is too separatist already. Not only do we have to stop this in its tracks right now, we need to get rid of things like Whanau Ora, Maori-only scholarships and other discriminatory schemes. Chris

*It already is and I can only see it getting worse under MMP. Keith

*In reality, NZ already IS an apartheid nation. Sure, we all have a vote but, as with Animal Farm, some are more equal than others.
NZ is a few short years away from becoming a banana republic. By then it will be occupied only by the stupid and lazy - all wondering who will pay their welfare bill. Once the NZ cupboard is bare you can bet some "treaty expert" will conclude that they should chase more money by taking a case to the Privy Council in the UK and trying to make them pay. Unfortunately most NZers are either sleep walking into this situation (and deserve what they get) or heading eyes-open across the ditch. Gary

*Not yet but it is well on the way! It should be noted that the further you go down a path, the longer and harder it is to get back. Every war in history has started because of that path. Because, at one point there is no going back only on to oblivion!
I am a proud 'New New Zealander' having world experience, I can see past the old 'It will be all right' attitude.
In life, non action is liable to come back and bite. And over compensation to appease., also has grave problems!
Keep up the good work! Raymond

*We are already well down that path. Some fear, already too far to recover from it! How can we ignore the lessons of history? Hugh

*National are leading this country into a disaster, a future where race is the dominant feature. Who will want to live here then? It will be a tragedy for future generations if National doesn't see sense and say "No" to the Maori Party. Susan

*Dangerous times...where will it end? Brian

*These ridiculous Maori Claims Must stop. Lets Hope John Key finallly says NO To any more from these Thieves. Colin

*But not if I can help stop it! Albert

*We moved to Western Australia last May and while there were half a dozen reasons for leaving NZ the tiresome babbling of Maori extremists was one of them. Peter

*New Zealand has been apartheid for a long time now. We should never have had Maori seats in parliament to begin with. The European I am sad to say is responsible for Maori dependency upon the government. It has weakened them and now we are all paying the price. And,it will get worse. Donro

*Time to cut the crap and go on as one nation. This whole thing is dragging NZ down wasted enough money by now. Hans

*Nailed it. Racial non-sense is the main reason I'm off to Australia. Don

*NZ is not at risk of becoming an Apartheid nation - it has already reached that status since Doug Graham proposed the Waitangi Tribunal and has consolidated it in the last 10 years. Thank you for giving this division in NZ its correct name. Basil

*In fact it is too late to ask this question! Phil

*Yes, it already is. I don't notice any Pakeha/New Zealander Party being proposed, yet we have the blatantly racist Maori party installed without protest. John

*Maybe @ census we should declare ourselves maori to claim benefits. An even quicker way to drive the country broke. Rick

*What about Maori All Blacks, Maori Music awards, Maori Sports Awards, it's never endind. WE need to be All New Zealanders. Richard

*We are already an apartheid nation, but apartheid in reverse. The minority are taking from the majority because of their claimed early settler status. Chris

*It is virtually so right now. Alan

*Should really have answered NO but that would skew the poll result. We ALREADY have apartheid in NZ. Steve

*In reality, we are already there. No doubt about that. James

*If people want to be Maori then they should not have access to the non Maori social welfare system, DPB, Sickness benefit etc. David

*Far too much emphasis placed upon a flawed revisionist Maori interpretation of the Treaty of Waitangi. William

*It's nearly there now. Jim

*Haven't we already reached that status? Tony

*I'm feeling really uncomfortable at this thought. How can 'ordinary' New Zealanders stop this nonsense? Alice



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*WE ARE CLOSE TO BECOMING ANOTHER ZIMBABWE. PETER

*It's a money and power grab. Neil

*Not at risk we already are thanks to keys Gvmt. Norm

*The question is wrong. We have already become an apartheid country. I am considering leaving and heading to somewhere more tolerant of the bigger picture. Peter

*Becoming? It's already there, which is why we moved to Australia. Sooner or later, such racial divisions lead to civil war. History is replete with examples, yet the govt appears blind to the fact. Gordon

*It is ALREADY happening as we sit here on our fat bottoms too scared to speak out for fear of being labelled a "red neck" or a "Modi Basher"!!!!! Dave

*We are not at risk as we are already there. Fay

*Like most workers of every colour I am bloody sick of all this pandering to minorities. Neil

*Becoming? It already is! Linda

*OUR POLITICIANS LOVE THEIR JOB TOO MUCH RATHER THAN STAND UP FOR US, THE MAJORITY WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE EXPLOITED FURTHER. MEL

*What's this "at risk of becoming" thing? It already is! Teresa

*What began as little more than a slow current during the Maori 'Rennaissance' is now sweeping us towards the rapids of a new apartheid New Zealand! Frank

*What do you mean "at risk"? It already is as we all know. But why don't we have the guts as a collective majority to do something about it? We should be ashamed of ourselves for letting it get this far. I have to say the majority of the baby boomer generation has really and truly messed up the fantastic country they were handed by the greatest generation! Jonathan

*Has been for nearly 20 years. NZ is no longer Godzone with radical minorities undermining everything we were once so proud of. Institutionalised racism begins at Govt level. NZers have been betrayed. Sharon

*Maori have far too much say and always call us racist. David

*New Zealand has suffered reverse apartheid for so long now, I really can't remember just when it started, but I do know one thing.
*It is long past time it was stopped. Jim

*We are already! Robert

*MAORIS SHOULD ASK THEMSELVES,WHO HAS INVENTED ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE ,AND THEM, ENJOY IN THIS WORLD TODAY.MAORI CULTURE HAS NOT CONTRIBUTED SOCIETY ANYTHING OF BENEFIT TO ANYONE.THEY SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT THEY WERE SAVED FROM THERE SAVAGE CULTURE BACK IN THE EARLY 1840'S. PETER



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - APARTHEID NEW ZEALAND 071012
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:15 pm 
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Do you believe New Zealand is at risk of becoming an “apartheid” nation?


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*I would argue it has already and shows no evidence of being reversed any time soon, the flood gates are wide open and the hinges have rusted. John

*If your team is losing either join the other team or upgrade your team so lets join the other team. Bill

*It's not at risk - it is. Donald

*My two sons, one a businessman the other a Chemistry PhD and academic, have left New Zealand to live overseas. The racist crap going on in NZ was one of the main reasons for their decision to leave the country. Les

*We are already an apartheid nation. There is separatism in everything we do. It's long overdue that we elected leaders who will do what the Treaty said and deem us all equal under the law with no special treatment for race, but based on need only. This country will never be successful until this happens. We are heading to Third World status if current trends are not quickly nipped in the bud. B+H

*We're half way there already. Craig

*It all ready is. Peter

*Current policies too divisive. Sharon

*What do you mean 'at risk of becoming'? It already is an apartheid nation. Simon

*Question is too late, it already is an apartheid nation, in reverse. Steve

*Blood will be spilt. Julian

*It already IS! Dot

*Many of the radical Maori minority in NZ are creating huge tension and dissention in NZ and it can only lead to racial hatred and mistrust ! There are only about 500.000 people or less who call themselves Maori and yet you would believe they are in the majority. No more than one seventh in reality. If pakeha's spoke out like some radical greedy Maori's do there would be hell to pay and screams of indignation ! It has got to stop!! Andrew

*It is already an apartheid nation! Jason

*It already is an apartheid country. Barry

*It has been created by gutless successive governments' appeasement policies and the creation of government institutions and bodies submerged in ethnic fundamentalism. Tom

*We have to be very careful because if the Maori gain the water it will cause massive racial unrest in New Zealand. Barrie

*We have been an apartheid nation for more years than I care to remember, and it is heartbreaking to see the extent of it now, with only acceleration ahead. So many people seem to have their heads in the sand at what is happening before their eyes. Talking about it labels anyone a "racist", so the future is becoming bleaker for New Zealand. Lorraine

*We have got to put a stop to this NOW! Barry

*We already are one of the most racist countries in the world. And the racism is entrenched in our statutes. Mike

*It already is. Tony



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - APARTHEID NEW ZEALAND 071012
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:43 pm 
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Do you believe New Zealand is at risk of becoming an “apartheid” nation?


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*I thought we already were!! Ian

*One government one people. This separatism is bull-dust. Willy

*Aparthied in a literal sense, means 'separate development' which is close to where NZ is heading. Jocelyn

*I will also state we HAVE become an "Apartheid state" No becoming about it. I believe it is only going to get worse.
If all those Maori initatives did any good for the wider community I say Great but what they seem to do is just give their clients a self serving dose of victim-hood. They don't seem to make headway.
If those calling for the Mana of various things to belong to them, fine. Hold those views and respect them within themselves but don't push your values on to me.
If you want your children to have something beyond the basic socially needed education provide it yourself, outside of public school hours, be it religion, cultural identity or minority language. Wendy

*It is not really a risk - it is already a reality. Rodney

*It's already happened. If you added non to the policies you cited "non- Maori only" there would be public outrage driven by gullible & culpable media. Peter

*Finally someone has had the guts to stand up and say what is really causing the troubles here in NZ. We have had enough ... we are joining the exodus. Goodbye from this middleaged white New Zealander!! Peter

*God forbid. I am a young kiwi and am sick to death of the 'Maori this and Maori that'. I agree with Bob's comments paraphrased in your article Muriel, all of the Maori people I know, are also sick to death of it. They see it as being held back, and is the reason several of them have moved to Aussie. Shelley

*Ever since we migrated from South Africa in 1993, we have seen with alarm the increasing division between Maori and all others and have been observing the downward spiral into damaging separatism, antagonism and race-based favoritism! We fled from that in our home country, but it seems to be a case of 'out of the frying pan into the fire', now! We are painfully disappointed with our choice of 'safe haven' and should probably leave NZ, too, if the Treaty of Waitangi circus is not abolished soon! Margaret

*Look at the history of countries that had the same racial issues. The political road the country followed and how it ended - South Africa. All the common political ideas of the day were part of the history of South Africa since 1960 - Apartheid, Separate Development + Native affairs, and eventually over throwing of the government + devastation of the country.
In other words wake up New Zealand before it is too late! Anna

*And, we will unless ordinary citizens wake up to the dangers of the power grab of a few self interested part-Maori. Geoff

*The real answer is to the above question is no. We are not in danger of becoming an apartheid nation. We are beyond the in danger stage. We are already well advanced in the process of setting it up. Kerry

*It already is an “apartheid nation”. We have now reached the stage where most New Zealanders are either completely apathetic about the matter or have been brainwashed enough to accept the idea that asking for equal treatment for all New Zealanders is “racist”. There is no doubt that many of the people leaving New Zealand do so because of these race problems but many of these also will not say it in public. John

*What risk? We are now. Tim

*NZ is not at risk of becoming an apartheid nation, NZ has become an apartheid nation. Kerry

*Land of the 'Long White Cloud' is has become a toxic dirty grey for ALL New Zalanders. Wilf

*I believe very strongly that NZ is becoming a, or already is, a racial state. This is for me a very good reason to keep and hold my European passport. When, not if, things run out of hand I am gone. Peter

*I have answered yes but in actual fact we already are; and as long as we are, we will never move forward as a Nation. Margaret

*Apartheid is here and has been for many years. Maori are separatists. Brian

*My answer was yes and I maintain that is the reason this country is in dept. Lionel



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 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - APARTHEID NEW ZEALAND 071012
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:34 pm 
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Do you believe New Zealand is at risk of becoming an “apartheid” nation?

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*Its not at risk of 'becoming' an apartheid nation...it already is! Bruce

*I think that the answer you are looking from me is yes, however,the answer to this question should be no, because NZ already is an apartheid nation. John

*Absolutely - unless the government puts a halt to it we will go past the point of no return, then the country really will be stuffed. Ken

*It already is in many ways. Malcolm

*I believe New Zealand is well on its way to being an "apartheid" nation already - WAKE UP NEW ZEALAND. Geoff

*The attempt by the Maori Party to hijack the constitution and replace it with one based on the Treaty of Waitangi is proof that they will not stop until they can govern. This already is apartheid New Zealand. Susan

*Since the Maori Party has been in the coalition, things have got much worse. Stuart

*I think we already are. Derek


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