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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - OLD VERSUS NEW POLITICS 121112
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:15 pm 
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Do you believe the demographic of the NZ electorate is shifting to the left, right, or staying the same?


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*Slithering steadily to the left, abetted my almost all of the mainstream media and many of our politicians, elected and unelected. It is nothing less than Socialism by stealth. John

*Like America, NZ is moving to the left as the cultural demographics change. Increasingly many of our new immigrants are seduced by the concept of 'socialism' (ie that someone else will look after them) and therefore will increasingly find the Labour Party more attractive. Come next election the National Party's responsible fiscal policy will have begun to pall and the middle ground voters will move centre left (ie to Labour. The National Party wil have to do more than just strike a deal with the Maori Party if it hopes to maintain power. The same goes for the Republicans. They will have o re-evaluate their political message if they are to gain support from their growing ethnic minorities. There are strong parallels between our two countries despite the differences in size and make up. Lindsay

*Definitely to the left! While National is clinging to power, Act and Conservative are dead ducks, coalition with Maori is a leftist disgrace, Labour is maintaining its poor position and the extreme Greens and Mana degradation parties are strengthening. Bruce

*Unfortunately. Many, especially the young, don't seem to search 'in depth' what different policies really entail, e.g. the Green's. David

*Slowly to the right under Key but with many socialist policies. Mainstream media appallingly left wing! Monica



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - OLD VERSUS NEW POLITICS 121112
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:25 pm 
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*NZ has taken a hard left over the last 40 years. And no, we don't have elections - we have the latest lineup of globalist shills that we "vote" for, who then put into play whatever current impoverishment and control program the globalists have in mind. Time for everyone to watch the first 55 minutes of Zeitgeist Addendum. We are all slaves to a totally corrupt monetary system that is totally broken, and the politicians are nothing more than "managers" for the "business" named NZ. The time for revolution is now. Peter

*Unfortunately the majority of Kiwis are totally blinkered as to what is really happening to our country. Roger

*As George Bernard Shaw once said..."A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always rely on Pauls vote" (or similar words to that effect). So by increasing the number of people on welfare with socialist policies, the Pauls of this world will only become more numerous! Derek

*Slight long slow shift to the left - unfortunately. Brian

*Economic ignorance, and a lack of recognition of subtle communising of the nation, is misleading the young inexperienced unaware element of our population. Bob

*Lack of firm resolve on all issues & in particular to benefits/maori. No politician prepared to introduce a bill to abolish benefits/just look at the UK,to see where we are headed. Derek

*Immigration of huge numbers of Indians to NZ whom at home have no benefits/health/schooling/transport,see NZ as disneyland & will lean to the LEFT will combined with Chinese,Arabs/Somalis will also give their votes to the left.We will wake up to late to see a NZ as a country similar to what Brixton in the UK is today. Marina

*More people want the state to solve their problems. They are lazy and fearful of relying on their own initiatives. Ian

*NZ has been actively investing in the growth of the lower socio-economic segment; combine these people with the number dependent on government for jobs or welfare and we have a burgeoning left leaning population. Fiona

*Those with get up and go ... got up and went ... to Australia. Those who are left are the sick lame and lazy plus those on a retirement benefit. NZ is fast becoming a nation of quiescent retirees and the incompetent and unemployable with a massive sense of entitlement, ... unearned. This is the perfect storm for a South Pacific version of the 'Greek' tragedy.. Peter

*The political parties are also, by necessity, moving in the same direction. National took the middle ground off Labour in order to gain the necessary number of seats to Govern. My view is this trend will continue while ever we have an MMP electorla system. There will be minority parties on each frings of the spectrum, but the major parties will fight the middle/left ground. Chris

*New Zealand politics is more and more being allowed by the in power party to be governed by the minority view. All for the sake of political power, not what is in the best interest of the country. Neil

*This has happened because Labour Governments have wooed voters with handouts to get into or to retain power. We now have a situation where people are believing that they don't have to make their own way in life because the Government will provide for them. The numbers of this class of person are increasing with the large number of refugees and immigrants pouring into the country and jumping on the bandwagon because they know that we are a soft touch. They are encouraged by left wing parties because their votes will give them power and cancel out the votes of those with common sense and principles. Exactly the same situation exists with the Auckland City Council where the Mayor has gained power following his experience with these voters in Manukau. Peter



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - OLD VERSUS NEW POLITICS 121112
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:28 pm 
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*With tens of thousands of green brainwashed children coming through the education system I can only see a leftward lurch over the next 20 years. Peter

*The trend to the left is driven by the stupid and ignorant who think they will always get a free lunch at the expense of the so-called 'rich' - that poorly defined and elusive group of people who are more and more to be found heading to the airport with a one-way ticket to Australia. Gary

*Hundreds of thousands of New Zealanders have left the country for better opportunities. I venture to suggest that more right wing people than left wing people would make up their ranks. In many cases they have been replaced by people who have have benefited from various government handouts and may therefore be more left leaning. In any event governments have become more left leaning over the last decade or so. What would Michael Joseph Savage have made of today's welfare system and so-called right wing National Party? Peter

*I think it could move as little to the left but not too much. Public assets should be removed from the control of politicians and be owned and controlled directly by us. But we should not have the power to sell them to those who have bought and paid for the National Party. If asset sales continue then the National Party could loose the next General Erection and let the looney left and the green communists in which would be a fate worse than death. K

*The national parties antics with the Maori party and the maori agenda is destroying our faith that their objectives were in all our best interest. We are being sold out and handed over. Time for a stake in the ground and time to say no more. Jeremy

*There has been a gradual shift over the years. Roy

*Surely you don't need a poll to find the answer to the question. Edward

*In spite of journalists favouring the left. David

*The kids are brainwashed by the half baked teachers we employ. The kids are going left, the whole country is going backwards. And not a soul apart from Muriel and co care. That is until its too late. Sometime next year. Chris

*There is nothing democratic about politicians over the 30 years, polititicins are making sure there, and wouldn't survive out there without their pension. One rule for New Zealanders (3rd class.) one for maori,2nd class verging of 1st and one for polititicians 1st class. One law for New Zealanders, separate one for maori and a separate one for politicians. In other words NZ is stuffed. Robert

*There is very strong evidence that the public is adamant that the Waitangi Treaty "gravy train" must cease. Your effort to inform the general public that the constitutional review is heading in the wrong direction is strongly supported. John

*The Labour party is struggling to get momentum and the other minor parties are just narrowly focussed and are confusing. Bill

*The Gramscian Marxist "long march through the institutions" of the political and lifestyle Left means our political centre of gravity has shifted steadily leftward over the last 30 years. Reclaiming our country starts with a cleanout of the academy at all levels, but particularly tertiary! Reuben

*It's going left - and also brown and green - all facets of socialism which latches onto populist single-issue parties.
Melon-headed Rusty Norman fancies himself as an economist who will lay waste to your savings and pension-funds by selling them down with QE, money-printing devaluation of everything you've saved for. Auntie Podes



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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback - OLD VERSUS NEW POLITICS 121112
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:22 pm 
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*Probably to the left – partly as a result of the relative decline in the numbers of middle class and wealthier European voters. Many of the entrepreneurial people who would be paying tax have left for Australia over the last few years.
Also because of government policies (e.g. working for families) creating larger numbers of voters benefiting from state handouts causing them to be more socialist in outlook. John

*Socialist and U.N. ideals are part of the education curriculum now so can only see it going left, kids know all about their rights and climate change but for many not a hell of a lot else. John

*As seen in other western democracies, politicians buy votes by taking from the top few % and giving to the rest. The fact they Fukc the Country on the way through does not matter as they will be alright with a job at the UN afterwards. Peter

*It seems to now be the NZ way - shoved along by John Key and the rest of the NZ politicians. Barry

*The reason I say 'left' is because of the "duncification" of NZ. These brain dead kids have little hope and their only light in the tunnel is to remain unemployed but let someone else work and pay tax. Ever noticed how so many people have no idea about whats going on around them but only seem to care about booze, parties, tattoos, drugs & music? Hell, many wear their stupidity as a badge of honour! Derejk

*Although we still know plenty of NZers who would rather do it themselves (work) there appears to be a growing proportion of people who are quite happy with their sense of entitlement, to,accept. a weekly handout from our generous govt (with taxpayer funding) .
The day of reckoning must be coming, but God help NZ if we get another Labour Govt (with a greens coalition) who will no doubt follow Helengrads lead and pander ever more to the so-called poor. My votes will go to the new Conservative Party. Carolyn



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 Post subject: NZCPR Feedback - OLD VERSUS NEW POLITICS 121112
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:05 pm 
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Do you believe the demographic of the NZ electorate is shifting to the left, right, or staying the same?

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*It is shifting to the left. If the young voters who stayed home had voted in 2011, Labour and the Greens would have been in power. I blame the schools and the socialist indoctrination they get there! Sandra

*As long as National persists in pushing ideas like asset sales, the electorate will move to the left in response. Having said that, if Labour pushes capital gains tax hard enough, then it will move to the right. So maybe the best answer is that it is staying the same! Jim

*Young people and new immigrants are definitely left leaning, and like in the US, they are a growing group. Peter

*Home ownership helps people move to the right, but that's been dropping over recent years. The government needs to do something to sort that out if they want to electorate to lean to the right. Stuart

*People are sucked in by socialist rubbish - just look at the Green vote. The electorate is definitely moving to the left. Keith


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