This week we ask for your advice:
What should be done to alert the public to the threat to New Zealand’s democratic future posed by the Maori Party’s plan to introduce a bicultural constitution?
*We need Judith Collins and Finlayson to swap jobs because at least one of them is not so keen on giving our money away without a fight. The other one is nothing but a traitor to the people he is meant to represent. Derek
*I think the process should be scrapped. Ian
*I have been writing to a number of newspapers here in surrounding areas & all relevant MP's trying to awaken the public & ask why the media is so silent on the subject.The herald had an article last Tues & other smaller papers have taken up the issue.The worst thing is jo Blow kiwi doesn't see how it can happen it is all to big to comprehend.We have to keep the pressure on these avenues we also need some speakers on the subject to visit & educate the people.Then by early next year we have to motivate people to take to the street.We start collecting signatures but does Govt take any notice of this!! Christina
*The Prime Minister should be asked if he will stop this nonsense . If not we should have an election and put it to the people. Do it now! John
*Reject the notion in its entirety. The 1987 revisiting was divisive and most unhelpful to the success of NZ. Ron
*I read all the comments before I placed my suggestion and they are all good especially the viral ones or any to do with forming a political party in a mirror image of the maori party so people will see that either apartheid is OK or it is not! Either way they will make up their mind finally. NZ'ers are too apathetic, scared of being labelled a racist, unable to understand a lot of the language that is coming out of the opposers of this apartheid movement. We need to keep it blunt people! Spell out some scenario's that will shock people. We have to get the public picturing what could happen - not use long, over explained sentences. Peter
*Another idea is to stump up the funds to pay someone like the filmaker Michael Moore to do a documentary on NZ ( he hasn't had a juicy one for a while) he could focus on the the whole race issue, child killings among maori and on and on - that would give us global reach. Peter
*Best method of defence is attack. We need articles in newspapers. Comments on radio,TV,talk hosts etc. esmond
*As fairly elderly senior citizens, we can only see that it needs to be put out in the public arena..we need support from other? Political parties..it seems the average citizen, cannot see what is happening. Jane
*The treaty should be dumped and any changes to the constitution should be by public referenda. Bill
*National TV should be headlining this diabolical thoughts to our constitution on the News and keep running it until we get some response from our week Government. Bill
*If we cannot get the 30-50 age group interested enough to get off,their backsides, there is not much hope of getting any action. They are more interested in self gratification and rugby and booze to be bothered. As a 70 year old, I have told my lot that one day I will come back to haunt them and say "we told you so but you weren't interested". It is time KEY was told that the treaty must go and also the Maori seats. Most Maori are more pakeha than Maori, but it suits them to be able to hold their hands out as "Maori". That creepy little man Finlayson has just handed out at least another hundred million in so-called "settlements" together with apologies to Maori for the wrongs the nasty white man has done to them.
A suggestion - perhaps Bob Jones could help, as he writes some very entertaining articles re Maori rubbish and the young ones like entertainment. Carolyn
*Would it be possible for David Round, Mike Butler or yourself Muriel to somehow get a regular column in the nations daily news papers. After all, Rosemary McLeod and Chris Trotter are given scope to write their left wing socialist drivel on a regular basis so why not any or all of the three named above?
Maybe we, as regular supporters of NZCPR, should be making our thoughts for such a column known to the editors of the various daily papers. After all, we have just heard how the Press see themselves as unbiased upholders of the truth. If they really where there would be no need to even bring pressure to bare as events of such fundamental importance to the future of the country would be automatically covered in full. Ronmac
*In the short term we should try to publish the Declaration of Equality at least once in most newspapers and at the same time outline what the proposed Constitution means and warn citizens that there is no commitment from Labour or National to hold a binding referendum.(Yes, this is going to take money.)
We are in this mess because most politicians have proved to be entirely untrustworthy. If we had the Swiss system of Direct Democracy then this Waitangi Constitution proposal would be dead in the water along with other race based legislation.
We have a battle to fight and then a war to fight to ensure that never again will the politicians and
their mates sabotage genuine democratic government "of the people, by the people, for the people!". Denis
*If a political party was formed with its policy based on rejecting The Treaty and any attempts of a Maori Constitution,or any social advantages for Maori or any other race based on colour, then this Party would give Pakeha and sensible Maoris alike, a say in this matter without being accused of being a Maori basher. I think you would find the support for a party like this would be overwhelming.I find it hard to comprehend that a Treaty that appears to be a few paragraphs long and was compiled by a person who never had the mandate of the British government to do so,can be interpreted in such a manner that Pakeha can be painted as pure evil bastards and that Maori are as pure as the driven snow throughout the past 100 odd years, where recent social behaviour of a vast majority of Maori is far from satisfactory. How long do New Zealanders have to put up with this crap and more importantly how long can we afford to keep giving money to one people based on their interpretation of a Treaty signed 150 years ago. Ross
*It is blatantly obvious that the media is silent on this important issue, what on earth is going on??
It is a conspiracy to rape the NZ public of their hard earned dollar, starve us our basic needs ie health care,low wages and the list goes on. How long can this charade continue?? The general media must be brave enough to conduct a thorough campaign to expose the realities of this issue now, otherwise we are all down the plughole for generations to come. Frank
*It seems to us that overt action – in your face type action - is now called for. It’s the only way we can get information out into public knowledge to win the battle for our future.
We have to engage the media and it seems that well-reasoned press statements will be relegated to back pages whereas it’s more likely that any protest action that’s noisy and articulate, without necessarily breaking law and order, will get the front pages.
We need to ‘get it out there’ to the general populace that there’s been a slow insidious loss of NZ’s support of its people on an ‘as needs’ basis to ‘race based’. Not only is there this loss that’s en route to an unequal society, it’s based on a false treaty that’s been discredited and manipulated.
Not only that, but Maoris and PC non-Maori (generalisations) say ‘honour the treaty’ yet they’re not talking about the Treaty written in Maori and discussed with their chiefs in 1840 as you’d expect but rather an English draft that’s now acknowledged as a false treaty.
WHY? Because the false treaty can be manipulated more easily to give them ‘rights’ as they perceive them and gives PC society ‘reasons’ why they need to support the downtrodden Maori & why non-Maori are guilty and should be downtrodden (reverse racism).
Abhorrent facts like this need to become ‘in ya face’ public knowledge. Whenever we’ve put this out to others non- Maori we’ve been branded as racist and people walked away. We need to bring about an environment in which people can discuss NZ’s future and any role the TOW has within it without aggression.
This can be helped happen by a flood of letters and submissions to MP’s and the media but also by public protests. Don’t forget that Maori changed things for themselves (status) through protests in the past – Bastion Point, Land march etc – and it’s time that we make use of that technique too.
The public would be scandalised and rise up if it were loudly proclaimed that the TOW Tribunal isn’t about justice but appeasement. A claim in the past that was thrown out due to lack of evidence has now been reapplied for in exactly the same format with compensation given!!!
WHY? Because the Tribunal doesn’t fully investigate claims . . . If this were common knowledge and the $$$ amount that’s been spent by the Tribunal as well as that it’s a false treaty and principles they’re using to interpret claims just think of the backlash – which is what we need.
NZCPR needs to hold workshops to decide on strategies for demonstration and what key points should be focussed on during a protest & to the media as a Press Release?
Also to calculate where and when protests are best made. EG: At Nelson museum atm the mistruths of Parihaka in movie form are been herald as fact – despite being informed of the true facts. Antics such as this need to be openly challenged, but it needs to be done in a coordinated manner.
Some of NZCPR supporters are better at written protest, others as speakers, and others as foot soldiers. NZCPR needs to identify these people and co-ordinate their direction.
NZCPR has an important role here that it needs to act on before it’s too late. Carol & Rob
*We did the only thing that can be done to stop successive Governments and Maori from ruining our lives. Sadly today we signed an offer to sell our home and we are joining the rest of our family that have moved to Aus. We don't really want to move from NZ, we love our country but we don't want to live with a Treaty based constitution, we are sick of being second class and also watching Maori commit so much crime and always excuses are made for them.
My Father went to war and fought for NZ, he would be horrified and disgusted at what is happening to his country. I feel sick about leaving but I also feel sick about staying. Chris