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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback: EXTORTION BY A THOUSAND SMALL DEMANDS 091212
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:45 pm 
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Hello Chris, Malcolm7 and other folks. Both Muriel and Lord Monckton have important messages which New Zealanders need to hear and which the politicians would rather were not heard.

May I suggest that all of us concerned citizens reading and contributing to these posts also make individual commitments to improving our political and social scene. Muriel needs money to spread her messages. The people bringing Lord Monckton to New Zealand need money to meet his expenses. Now I don't want to be an interfering bossyboots but I suggest that those who have failed to donate and who do have a spare bit of cash do the decent thing and make some contributions. Look upon it as a necessary price to pay to improve New Zealand. At present we are paying a different sort of price trying to live our lives in a country dominated by non representative and self serving politicians and their mates.

Even if you can't afford a money contribution the very least you can do is to personally write to your MP telling him or her how dissatisfied you are with our current political system and suggesting that you will be voting for a Party or Independent MP who is commited to truly representing the voters.

While I don't know the whole story is seems that the people in Iceland, faced with economic disaster, got off their backsides, held meetings and demonstrations, demanded the sacking of certain officials they blamed for the crisis and laid the groundwork for a new
constitution.

Years ago one political Party had the electioneering slogan, "New Zealand the way you want it!" Well, that would be a state of the nation worth aiming for, wouldn't it!


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MAKE A DATE . WATCH FOR LORD CHRISTOPHER MONCKTON'S LECTURE TOUR IN APRIL . LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE . WHY HAVE OUR POLITICIANS AND BUREAUCRATS LIED TO US ? WHY ARE OUR LOWER INCOME PEOPLE SUFFERING MORE THAN THOSE RECEIVING OVER $2,000 A WEEK ? STAND UP AND BE COUNTED !
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THE VAST MAJORITY OF WRITERS COULD HELP THE CAUSE MUCH BETTER BY DONATING FOR ALL THOSE THINGS THEY RECOMMEND . EVERYTHING SUGGESTED COSTS MONEY . DON'T EXPECT THE FEW, ORGANISING THESE PROTESTS TO FINANCE OUR DREAMS.
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What should be done to alert the public to the threat to New Zealand’s democratic future posed by the Maori Party’s plan to introduce a bicultural constitution?

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*Muriel, you absolutely have to get your team out there and start doing public presentations on this issue. Be loud and proud! It really is the only way to get the public attention. You have awesome academic backup with Rata, Round Butler and many others. All of you could travel and present your findings at public meetings. Expose the rotten elitist bastards for what they really are - you can do it!!! Trina

*Totally against total Maori Sovereinty. What is going to happen to us New Zealander????. Born and Bred here????? Totally scared....... HELP !!!!!!!! Karen

*With the review of MMP probably reducing the 5% threshold, there's a real chance that the Conservative Party may gain representation in Parliament. From their website, one policy under 'Sovereignty' states: "One nation, one electoral roll and conclude the treaty settlements". If all National MP's were written to and told that this is a serious enough issue to warrant a 'protest vote', then it might cause them to sit up and take notice. Once election polls start, the media would leap all over a story of how the Conservative Party was suddenly 'hot', and that would provide the platform to get the message about a constitutional review out there in the main media a lot more easily. Whether just this one policy of the Conservative Party is enough to persuade you to give them your vote in the actual election, is another matter! Gordon

*ALL avenues of public media, papers magazines, radio, TV, billboards etc., everything needs to be used so everyone can have the opportunity to be informed well in advance of any possible political changes occurring. Jennifer

*Get it into the media but try and avoid sensationalism, present the facts. Graeme

*Greater use of advertising in major daily news publications to draw these facts to the public's attention. Stewart and Elisabeth

*While the Maori Sovereignty Movement is the perpetraitor ( that was a typo but it seems to work so I'll leave it as is...) of this travesty, the main problem NZ faces is apathy from the other side. This very dangerous direction, can only continue with majority compliance. We must somehow get bland & apathetic kiwis to get angry, kick up and fight back...remember the diesel price hike protests?...the govt turned around very quickly...They need to know we are are very angry and honestly, if we were ever to get angry about something... this is it! The problem is half the country is not even aware of whats happening, and would not grasp the consequences...Most of the mindless herd will be distracted by a football game or a reality tv show. The maoris don't need our "support" as they are well organised and funded (by us) and have Finlayson, The TOW Tribunal, race based representation and an army of Lawyers...etc etc All they need is our indifference....and we are giving it to them by the truckload.....what does that say about "Kiwis". Bruce

*Please print this information in daily papers. We need one law for all residents. Lyn

*Say "NO" from time to time and mean it. Just like you have to do to wayward children, & just as was done on water. The "Constitutional Review" isn't constitutional. The Treaty assures everyone of EQUAL RIGHTS under the protection of the Crown. Not more rights for some. Dave

*Stop pussyfooting around. Forget PC and come out and give the facts and your opinion. Roger

*I think that these articles need to bee sent to the media. maybe some interviews given to the press about this issue. Also I think if everyone sends it to people they know as well as groups they are part of and ask there admins to forward it to there mailing lists would help. One other thing which I think could work well is to set up a online petition, these have worked well for lots of groups before. Sam

*We did the only thing that can be done to stop successive Governments and Maori from ruining our lives. Sadly today we signed an offer to sell our home and we are joining the rest of our family that have moved to Aus. We don't really want to move from NZ, we love our country but we don't want to live with a Treaty based constitution, we are sick of being second class and also watching Maori commit so much crime and always excuses are made for them. My Father went to war and fought for NZ, he would be horrified and disgusted at what is happening to his country. I feel sick about leaving but i also feel sick about staying. Chris


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 Post subject: Re: NZCPR Feedback: EXTORTION BY A THOUSAND SMALL DEMANDS 091212
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There seems to be general agreement among the writers on this page that we need to inform the general public on what is likely to happen if this proposed new race based Treaty goes to legislation.

At this stage it seems that the politicians just want to impose it irrespective of our wishes.
They don't want public discussion.
They don't want public meetings.
They don't want a binding referendum to decide the issue. (The result of course would show just how out of touch they were with the general public.)

So what to do?

Suggestions (following on those already made.)
1. Write individual emails to the leaders of the Green, Labour and National Parties telling them you don't want this Constitution but if it goes to legislation you definitely want open debate, public meetings and a binding referendum. Do the same to your local MP.Ask for a response within fourteen days.
If you get a positive response post it on the Constitutional Review page. If you get a patsy response
(not answering your concerns) or no response at all post this information on the "Questions which the politicians refuse to answer" page.

2. If you are on civil or friendly terms with active members of the National Party ask them politely if they know about or agree with this proposed race based Constitution.

3. In the New Year we need to publish the Declaration of Equality together with a demand for genuine representation, public discussion and a binding referendum if this proposed Constitution goes to the House. This will take money.

I am thinking of an advertisement in as many papers as possible on the same day.
If we are serious about this all of us have to put our hands in our pockets and contribute!
Some of us (myself included ) might be willing to pay for the ad in our local paper (in my case, the Southland Times.) Other readers might be willing to donate to a general fund.
Now we all can't give a lot but I'm sure we can all give something! It's our country the politicians are ruining and we stand to lose more than a few dollars if this legislation is pushed through!

Other readers have rightly commented on the fact that many people just don't know what is happening. If we can inform them then hopefully at least some of them will take an interest and put pressure on our culpable politicians who have failed to responsibly represent them.


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What should be done to alert the public to the threat to New Zealand’s democratic future posed by the Maori Party’s plan to introduce a bicultural constitution?


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*We need Judith Collins and Finlayson to swap jobs because at least one of them is not so keen on giving our money away without a fight. The other one is nothing but a traitor to the people he is meant to represent. Derek

*I think the process should be scrapped. Ian

*I have been writing to a number of newspapers here in surrounding areas & all relevant MP's trying to awaken the public & ask why the media is so silent on the subject.The herald had an article last Tues & other smaller papers have taken up the issue.The worst thing is jo Blow kiwi doesn't see how it can happen it is all to big to comprehend.We have to keep the pressure on these avenues we also need some speakers on the subject to visit & educate the people.Then by early next year we have to motivate people to take to the street.We start collecting signatures but does Govt take any notice of this!! Christina

*The Prime Minister should be asked if he will stop this nonsense . If not we should have an election and put it to the people. Do it now! John

*Reject the notion in its entirety. The 1987 revisiting was divisive and most unhelpful to the success of NZ. Ron

*I read all the comments before I placed my suggestion and they are all good especially the viral ones or any to do with forming a political party in a mirror image of the maori party so people will see that either apartheid is OK or it is not! Either way they will make up their mind finally. NZ'ers are too apathetic, scared of being labelled a racist, unable to understand a lot of the language that is coming out of the opposers of this apartheid movement. We need to keep it blunt people! Spell out some scenario's that will shock people. We have to get the public picturing what could happen - not use long, over explained sentences. Peter

*Another idea is to stump up the funds to pay someone like the filmaker Michael Moore to do a documentary on NZ ( he hasn't had a juicy one for a while) he could focus on the the whole race issue, child killings among maori and on and on - that would give us global reach. Peter

*Best method of defence is attack. We need articles in newspapers. Comments on radio,TV,talk hosts etc. esmond

*As fairly elderly senior citizens, we can only see that it needs to be put out in the public arena..we need support from other? Political parties..it seems the average citizen, cannot see what is happening. Jane

*The treaty should be dumped and any changes to the constitution should be by public referenda. Bill

*National TV should be headlining this diabolical thoughts to our constitution on the News and keep running it until we get some response from our week Government. Bill

*If we cannot get the 30-50 age group interested enough to get off,their backsides, there is not much hope of getting any action. They are more interested in self gratification and rugby and booze to be bothered. As a 70 year old, I have told my lot that one day I will come back to haunt them and say "we told you so but you weren't interested". It is time KEY was told that the treaty must go and also the Maori seats. Most Maori are more pakeha than Maori, but it suits them to be able to hold their hands out as "Maori". That creepy little man Finlayson has just handed out at least another hundred million in so-called "settlements" together with apologies to Maori for the wrongs the nasty white man has done to them.
A suggestion - perhaps Bob Jones could help, as he writes some very entertaining articles re Maori rubbish and the young ones like entertainment. Carolyn

*Would it be possible for David Round, Mike Butler or yourself Muriel to somehow get a regular column in the nations daily news papers. After all, Rosemary McLeod and Chris Trotter are given scope to write their left wing socialist drivel on a regular basis so why not any or all of the three named above?

Maybe we, as regular supporters of NZCPR, should be making our thoughts for such a column known to the editors of the various daily papers. After all, we have just heard how the Press see themselves as unbiased upholders of the truth. If they really where there would be no need to even bring pressure to bare as events of such fundamental importance to the future of the country would be automatically covered in full. Ronmac

*In the short term we should try to publish the Declaration of Equality at least once in most newspapers and at the same time outline what the proposed Constitution means and warn citizens that there is no commitment from Labour or National to hold a binding referendum.(Yes, this is going to take money.)

We are in this mess because most politicians have proved to be entirely untrustworthy. If we had the Swiss system of Direct Democracy then this Waitangi Constitution proposal would be dead in the water along with other race based legislation.

We have a battle to fight and then a war to fight to ensure that never again will the politicians and
their mates sabotage genuine democratic government "of the people, by the people, for the people!". Denis

*If a political party was formed with its policy based on rejecting The Treaty and any attempts of a Maori Constitution,or any social advantages for Maori or any other race based on colour, then this Party would give Pakeha and sensible Maoris alike, a say in this matter without being accused of being a Maori basher. I think you would find the support for a party like this would be overwhelming.I find it hard to comprehend that a Treaty that appears to be a few paragraphs long and was compiled by a person who never had the mandate of the British government to do so,can be interpreted in such a manner that Pakeha can be painted as pure evil bastards and that Maori are as pure as the driven snow throughout the past 100 odd years, where recent social behaviour of a vast majority of Maori is far from satisfactory. How long do New Zealanders have to put up with this crap and more importantly how long can we afford to keep giving money to one people based on their interpretation of a Treaty signed 150 years ago. Ross

*It is blatantly obvious that the media is silent on this important issue, what on earth is going on??
It is a conspiracy to rape the NZ public of their hard earned dollar, starve us our basic needs ie health care,low wages and the list goes on. How long can this charade continue?? The general media must be brave enough to conduct a thorough campaign to expose the realities of this issue now, otherwise we are all down the plughole for generations to come. Frank

*It seems to us that overt action – in your face type action - is now called for. It’s the only way we can get information out into public knowledge to win the battle for our future.
We have to engage the media and it seems that well-reasoned press statements will be relegated to back pages whereas it’s more likely that any protest action that’s noisy and articulate, without necessarily breaking law and order, will get the front pages.
We need to ‘get it out there’ to the general populace that there’s been a slow insidious loss of NZ’s support of its people on an ‘as needs’ basis to ‘race based’. Not only is there this loss that’s en route to an unequal society, it’s based on a false treaty that’s been discredited and manipulated.
Not only that, but Maoris and PC non-Maori (generalisations) say ‘honour the treaty’ yet they’re not talking about the Treaty written in Maori and discussed with their chiefs in 1840 as you’d expect but rather an English draft that’s now acknowledged as a false treaty.
WHY? Because the false treaty can be manipulated more easily to give them ‘rights’ as they perceive them and gives PC society ‘reasons’ why they need to support the downtrodden Maori & why non-Maori are guilty and should be downtrodden (reverse racism).
Abhorrent facts like this need to become ‘in ya face’ public knowledge. Whenever we’ve put this out to others non- Maori we’ve been branded as racist and people walked away. We need to bring about an environment in which people can discuss NZ’s future and any role the TOW has within it without aggression.
This can be helped happen by a flood of letters and submissions to MP’s and the media but also by public protests. Don’t forget that Maori changed things for themselves (status) through protests in the past – Bastion Point, Land march etc – and it’s time that we make use of that technique too.
The public would be scandalised and rise up if it were loudly proclaimed that the TOW Tribunal isn’t about justice but appeasement. A claim in the past that was thrown out due to lack of evidence has now been reapplied for in exactly the same format with compensation given!!!
WHY? Because the Tribunal doesn’t fully investigate claims . . . If this were common knowledge and the $$$ amount that’s been spent by the Tribunal as well as that it’s a false treaty and principles they’re using to interpret claims just think of the backlash – which is what we need.
NZCPR needs to hold workshops to decide on strategies for demonstration and what key points should be focussed on during a protest & to the media as a Press Release?
Also to calculate where and when protests are best made. EG: At Nelson museum atm the mistruths of Parihaka in movie form are been herald as fact – despite being informed of the true facts. Antics such as this need to be openly challenged, but it needs to be done in a coordinated manner.
Some of NZCPR supporters are better at written protest, others as speakers, and others as foot soldiers. NZCPR needs to identify these people and co-ordinate their direction.
NZCPR has an important role here that it needs to act on before it’s too late. Carol & Rob

*We did the only thing that can be done to stop successive Governments and Maori from ruining our lives. Sadly today we signed an offer to sell our home and we are joining the rest of our family that have moved to Aus. We don't really want to move from NZ, we love our country but we don't want to live with a Treaty based constitution, we are sick of being second class and also watching Maori commit so much crime and always excuses are made for them.
My Father went to war and fought for NZ, he would be horrified and disgusted at what is happening to his country. I feel sick about leaving but I also feel sick about staying. Chris


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What should be done to alert the public to the threat to New Zealand’s democratic future posed by the Maori Party’s plan to introduce a bicultural constitution?


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*A Facebook and Twitter campaign would be effective I think plus set up a website with applicable keywords but avoid negative rhetoric such as show me a M and I will show you a thief which has been going the rounds again. Christopher

*Support John Adsell who is trying to warn all New Zealanders of the catastrophe. He is ending to promote a one race policy near to the next election. Frank

*Not sure if you mean by NZCPR or by the government. Massive advertising is the only way. Mailbox fliers, Tv, Radio, Talk shows, Current affairs, Newspaper, etc. Richard

*I like the idea. Victoria

*Use every means available to alert the public of the dangers of a treaty-based constitution. Demand a referendum be held for any new constitutional proposals. Mitch

*It seems to me that New Zealanders have to get the word out there as to what is happening. We also have to demand answers from the National Government as to what they think they are up to. If I had millions to invest in the cause, I would. The media could be a friend in this area ..... or they could be just the opposite. The problem with maoris is that anyone that disagrees with their views is seriously put down and labeled as a racist. I am no racist, but I am sure prejudiced. Leaflets outlining what is happening, in very basic and easy to understand terms could be effective. I will deliver those in my area. If they were half A4 size, I would even print them myself and gut and deliver in my area. By the way, I live in John Key's electorate. Neil

*We need a new political party concentrating on this issue. It needs to be lead preferably by someone who is high profile but can't be pigeon holed as a right wing extremist. It is certain that radical Maori will scream racist so they will need very thick skin. I understand that John Ansell may be planning something along these lines. 15% of the vote should be enough to get the two main parties changing tack to keep power. Graeme

*Get alongside more radio announcers to get them to talk about this issue on their radio programmes. Andrea

*Who in their right frame of mind wants to be a 3rd class citizen." Robert

*Enough money should be gathered to inform all New Zealanders (get some people with wide pockets on board) f.i . with a door to door pamphlet. The signatories to the pamphlet should be well known people , incl. some National MP's.Especially National voters have to be alarmed, as they probably believe that Key is doing a good job before he pushes off to Hawai!. Dr.Marius

*Hand out guns and ammunition so the work the British started can be finished. Mark

*The govt that stands up to them will bolt in an election. the mood and timing is perfect for enough is enough. Gerald

*A nation wide TV programme , pointing out all the issues that are wrong with this proposal. Lynda

*It'll be like the Marine and Area coastal bill. The main news media will keep quiet and no one will believe the atrocities will happen. Blame Key, who is going to do their investing for them once he has quietly snuck out the back door. Jackp

*Send copies of relevant parts of this circular to four main political leaders including Peters asking for comment from each. Get involved with radio talkback and twitter. Don

*I have no idea. People are more concerned about sport, tv, The Hobbit and it's "stars" etc than they are about the real issues of life. We will get what we deserve and it is not looking very nice. Mike

*The government should start thinking sensibly instead of pandering to every whim of Maori. Lois



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What should be done to alert the public to the threat to New Zealand’s democratic future posed by the Maori Party’s plan to introduce a bicultural constitution?


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*Use what legal means are available to distribute NZCPR bulletins to every e-mail address in the country. Ask all parliamentary members for their view on the issue of a written constitution for NZ. David

*Could there possibly be something that would get the news media to latch on to it? Terry

*New Zealanders are worse than a mob of sheep.They are led around by the nose and take whatever parliament throws at them.It is time they stood up and tell our MP`s that we are sick of being sold out to a small bunch of radical part maori scum. Pat

*The ONLY way to engage the public is to get the media on side. Without a protracted campaign of information across the media, the public's apathy will continue. Alan

*An advertising campaign including Billboards calling attention to info available from NZCPR, also seeking support from media celebraties who will promote NZCPR philosophies. Frank

*PM John Key should hold a TV debate and clearly state the National Party views on bicultural constitution. Maurice

*Why won't the NZ Herald print it on the front page or Campbell live discuss it etc?.What has this to say about our major sources of news? Perhaps Muriel you can send us all an email with just this information and a strategy for action on it and then we all send it onto our address book to notify others.We all need to get involved. Dorothy

*Public Awareness is needed. Surely there is someone out there who has the means to get this growing move to Apartheid exposed by Radio and TV and engineer a Nationwide Survey. Peter

*John Key to eb told he has to show some balls and stand up to the Maori party and he must be prepared to work without them I think he would be surprised how much support he would claw back with a real show of backbone on this Maori issue." Murray

*All Newspapers,TV Channels should be made to run features on this, or ask Campbell Live to have a 1/2 hour show on all this with both sides there, Full page Adv in all newspapers, ask all your readers to support this with a donation. Geoff

*More pressure should be put on the media to front up on this issue. Michael

*We should have a march in each city and town around New Zealand. Politicians are deaf to the warnings of the public. Barbara

*TV ads to alert the public to what is going on. Barbara

*The government should be required to fully advertise what is happening and engage in open discussion with the public as to the possible effects. After all the Govt has undertaken major advertising iniatives for Decimal currency, digital TV, the road toll etc etc etc. Richard

*Alert the public - TV programmes, newspapers, radio leaflet drops etc. The site is only preaching to the converted, mainly. Much more public awareness, then eventually a binding referendum, perhaps. Sheila



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*Readers of these articles could write to daily newspapers to alert the public. Eneka

*Form a new political party dedicated to one rule for all, and a voting system the same (no Maori seats), and elimination of all race based privileges. It would get probably 10-20% of the vote. And control who is the next govt. Jeremy

*Some how you must get the front page of every news paper and TV to bring to every NZers attention these alarming facts . You should ALSO nail John Key down to get an official statement from him so that we all know where he is going John Campbell on TV3 will pull no punches. We need to know where N.Z. is heading. Graeme

*Mass continuous public marches/rallys right across NZ on city hall/parliament. Jim

*Elect Neville Chamberlain? He has already sold us out to the new Hitler party.Pa (village) keha(flea=vermin)"biship" Brian for P.M.?Only a civil war will shake (aoteraroans) out of their apathy. Keith

*Young arrogant part Maori will sexually violate white girls and get off because within barbaric Maori tribes; girls were fair game for Maori teens. " Alastair

*Its time to stand up to the bullying threat of being called a racist simply because we challenge the real racists! We are the only western country CREATING APARTHEID! It must stop now! Reveal the truth behind the Treaty not its modern reinterpretation! Lets get vocal! Andy

*Advertise on TV. Bill

*Other than printing this Newsletter on a regular basis in all newspapers, it's difficult to know what to do. If the apathy displayed by many of my fiends is anything to go by, most appear to dismiss this situation as pure fantasy. Many are also woefully uninformed. As for contacting your member of Parliament, forget it. I have sent 5 emails to my local member, Jackie Deane and haven't had the courtesy of even an acknowledgement. I will remember that next election, if in fact by then it isn't already too late! Cyril

*A media attracting article that may get traction on current affairs shows and talk-back could be to research a story on the kiwi's that are leaving NZ for Australia because they are sick of the racism here towards non-maoris. This sort of angle - i.e. New Zealanders leaving to escape the maori BS could trigger some public anger/thought processes/action. Jonathan

*The advantage of appealing to the spirit of the treaty is that it can release Maori from the letter, as and when you need it, and be mobilised behind a vagueness of which Maori are the designated interpreters. Malcolm

*Our Prime Minister has got to start leading instead of photoshoots and mixing with Hobbits. If not we will end up with Winston Peters leading New Zealand - God Forbid. The media instead of reporting muck should become more constructive and explain in an unbiased way what exactly is going on and the consequences to the country if the constitution is amended. However I have little faith in this happening as it don't sell papers. Ron

*Unfortunately, it's too late to do anything through "the normal channels" that one would expect in a democracy. Why? Because we don't live in a democracy, we live in a UN dhminitude. Even the racist, separatist, tribalist Maori agitators & kingpins are only pawns in the great UN / globalist chess game that we experience as "New Zealand". Indeed, the only way forward, other than rolling over and accepting what's coming, is revolution. As a nation, NZers seem to have a natural abhorrence of revolution, which isn't a bad thing (usually). Unfortunately, this tendency towards non-violence has been carefully sculpted & crafted by the new world order into a form that strongly resembles (i.e. it is) pacifistic submissiveness, all rolled up in a nice little blanket of passivity (especially amongst men). Revolution needn't be an armed blood-letting: there are ways of instigating forceful revolt that don't involve killing people: that is the only path now open to us. We must throw off the shackles of the new world order and their UN puppet-orchestrator, bring back personal responsibility and absolute morals, and abolish the socialistic leftist dogmas that permeate every facet of NZ life. Regrettably, I think a snowball has a better chance in hell... Peter

*Alert the chief editors of the main NZ newspapers and request their cooperation in alerting the general NZ public to this threat through their editorials. EJ

*I trust that our newsletter is already forwarded to all our M.P.'s,seeking their urgent actions to stop this reverse "apartheid".which they so "loudly"despised, when it happened in "foreign-countries". Guus

*This MUST be bought to the attention of the public through one of the political parties who are not in bed with the Maori Party. We also need a very public person (ie. Paul Holmes) to jump up and down about it. Alice

*Put a marketing plan together which has 5 key bullet points. Expand on one point each publication - using max 2 sentences and restate the 5 bullet points also. Pages of policy discussion just doesn't cut the mustard. Reference the policy discussion if you like but hey, folks need the information. Make it easy for them to access it. All the very best. Alex

*Face book Twitter and Email appear to have a huge following a comment in this field may go viral. Also a topic for talk back radio. Letters to the Editors column in every paper. I guess radio presenters and editors must be unbiased so lets have both sides. Clark

*Put the lot of them on White Island and hope that the Volcano erupts real quick. Graham

*Use places like Facebook and twitter to get the information out in the public domain this could be disasterous for the future of "our" Country notification. Mark



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*Not everybody reads but the great majority watch T.V. A politician or high profile media person needs to be heard on this important issue on T.V. at peak viewing time. Nothing else will get a message to the indifferent and lethargic public more surely. Les

*Everyone should be alerted to this potentially destructive planning. Alex

*We are dealing with a maori mafia who chant and smile and lay on the phoney "traditional" this and that when they get what they want but snarl and hiss (and show their true colours) when they do not get their own way. Education and the truth about the Treaty need to be told but without govt funding, as the racist Maori Party have, it will be difficult. I wonder what new gifts the Maori Santa Claus (Finlayson) will slip into their stockings under the cover of xmas holidays while most of our dim witted PC excuses-for-journalists are off guard. Derejk

*Advertising in news papers, magazines and on TV! Hans

*Bring everything out in Parliament so all New Zealand can see for themselves , the situation--then vote on the issue and also on the ridiculous Treaty of Waitangi never ending claims--surely someone in Parliament has the guts to stand up and steer this country back to some sort of sanity.I immigrated to NZ in 1952 as a small child, I have lived here ever since, two of my children have served in the military of this country, my family have all been in gainful employment, paid our taxes and have never broken the law--and I am not prepared to accept any part maori (yes-part maori as I understand there are no full blooded maori ) telling me that I am a guest or whatever in this country--sadly , if I could leave NZ I would given the way we are heading, but I am too old now--but rest assured, I will resist any pathetic attempts to undermine my freedom and enjoyment of life in a very beautiful country which belongs to all New Zealanders. Terry

*Helen Clark gave the Maoris in Ngarhuawhahia the right to a say in environmental matters. What happened is that now to get planning permission to even build a shed a payment now has to be made to the Maori Party first before planning permission is granted. The people at the bottom of the party think that it gives rights to protect the environment. It does not- just another way for them to make money. Pat

*Can some one get to write a series of articles about the constitution review for a newspaper to start the ball rolling. Joan

*The only way to get progress on this is to 1/ Get the press involved. Get it on the front page of the papers. 2/ Get a politician involved. I hate to say it but Winston would be ideal! 3/ John Campbell? Though he would probably be in favour. Rex

*Give this the widest possible publicity. It is stupidity waiting to happen, The two country two public idea will cripple NZ. Graeme

*Nip it in the bud according to the present constitution. And be prepared to fight the activist idiots to the bitter end if they sue. William

*Take out billboard, radio and newspaper advertising with the words "We're not paying the maoris any longer. Signed, the rest of us". John

*I said it before and I say it again: A ruthless and radical exposure of this bloody mess is absolutely necessary." Michael

*Both National and Labour should be challenged as the next general election approaches to make chrystal clear their attitude to Maori Party objectives. Peter

*It requires an organised lobbying group, much as NZCPR is trying to do to control the impetus that our MP's of all sides of the political spectrum have toward the bicultural constitution, to become a full groundswell of the people's disfavour against the plan by ensuring that we make it a political by identifying which MP's should be named and shamed for their actions toward the treaty - including the liberal left epitomized by the leader of the treaty negotiation team. Neil

*If a person claims to be some thing as in a particular race then surely they should have to prove that by D N A. John



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The vast number of N.Zers are just too apathetic to get off their collective back sides .I have been trying , for several years to arouse some interest in these matters . Many will open up in a group, or individually , but ask for a phone call to M.Ps or a letter to the newspaper and a blank wall descends . Perhaps disclosing how much the carbon tax is costing each household may get a response ? The fact that Lord Monckton caused a furore at the U.N. conference may rise a few eyebrows . Those at the conference had no answer to his statements.
The apparent back pedalling of government , regarding the Kyota protocol will not help low income families one iota . The legislation is in place , and will continue to drag tax from businesses , and cosequently , all purchases will incur additional , and growing costs . How can we hold M.Ps. accountable ?
Malcolm Rollinson.
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I share your concerns, Malcolm - but the problem is that the ETS is so complicated that people don't really understand it.

Now if someone was able to explain exactly how much it is all costing a family, then the public might get angry and demand that it be ditched - especially as we are now quitting the Kytoto Protocol, which was the only reason an ETS was introduced in the first place!

Now Kyoto is ending we need to start agitating for an end to the ETS as well.


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*The culture in NZ of racial equality being seen as racist needs to be reversed." Willy

*A means of publicizing what is going on, which reaches as many people as possible is needed. NZCPR is doing an excellent job but it doesn't reach enough people. Jim

*An article in the main papers of NZ. I would be happy to put a donation to help. Mel

*Doltish - an organisation of ignoramuses.And surprised John Burrows would have even contemplated being co-chairs with O`Regan a director of a failed finance company and even Luxton, Coddington, Chin, Mene, and Tenent even being part of a panel considering Racist overtones. The treaty should have been filed away as a nullity 75 years ago. Time is over due in bring New Zealands history up today where there is now sound evidence that New Zealand was discovered and settled before BC, Kupe did not discover NZ he was borne here Tainui`s canoe was not the first to NZ it was made here, ownership was past by conquest. Maori should consider themselves luck the British calimed NZ. Robert

*Somehow, the news media need to show a searching, unbiased interest in the matter. How you get them to do this I'm afraid is beyond me. John

*The idea of a "hikoi" does appeal but would perhaps be seen as counter productive as NZers who are likely to support opposition to the proposition of enshrining "The Treaty" in any constitution are probably tired of "hikois"!
Mainstream media are as keen to get onto this as they are to do a story on the "other side" of global warming, oh sorry, climate change, a privately funded ad compaign is the only way it will get into our media, I would donate to this. John

*A lot of coverage on radio, tv and the internet, scream loud and clear about this racism. Carolyn

*Dump the Treaty of Waitangi it serves no useful purpose. Barry

*Fortunately at the ripe old age of 78, and (sometimes regrettably) fully able to know where we have been and where I fear we are going, I am delegating full responsibility for action on this ghastly anomaly to my granddaughters! Maggie

*Cancel the Waitangi Tribunal, the Maori seats and make everyone equal. Robert

*It should be out in the open for all New Zealanders to know what is going on and we should then be able to have a voice. So many people do not know what is going on behind closed doors. Coralie

*It will be too late doing something next year as any decisions made now will not be able to be overturned if passed. Coralie

*How to alert the Public? Perhaps best answered by another question, how can this be done when our Media regards the NZCPR as an extreme right wing organisation bordering on the Racial? And how can we have much faith in Media that constantly places a left wing viewpoint before the Public.
The fact that we have in reality four of the major political parties espousing left wing ideologies; more or less condemns all branches of our Media to a case of “follow my leader”. It is of course much easier to exist in the fourth estate if you conform, since your very existence depends on advertising, which in itself, is dependent upon Government or future Opposition governments.
(Refer the Media Milk price enquiry which was only concerned the price that Farmers received, but NOT into the cost of the Supermarkets mark-up)
What makes it extremely hard is the obvious fact that most citizens of this country follow to the letter Rhett Butler’s famous phrase “My dear I couldn’t give a damd”! Is this a case of History repeating itself in an up to date version of Caesar’s Rome “Bread & Games” (at the local Coliseum price 20 Denarius)?
That we have a loaded Kangaroo committee resolving the future of this country by using one of most re-written, revised, altered, politically indoctrinated indigenous framed Treaty that ever constricted a nation. It is a shame upon us all, and will prove a fertile breeding ground to end our racial harmony.
This “Committee of Greed” will deliver its already sanctioned verdict in such a way via our Media; that most New Zealanders will dismiss its text, and turn to the comfort of sport.
This is a Committee based on “Argumentum ad ignorantiam
Allons enfants de la Patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrive!
Contre nous de la tyrannie.” Brian



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The vast number of N.Zers are just too apathetic to get off their collective back sides .I have been trying , for several years to arouse some interest in these matters . Many will open up in a group, or individually , but ask for a phone call to M.Ps or a letter to the newspaper and a blank wall descends . Perhaps disclosing how much the carbon tax is costing each household may get a response ? The fact that Lord Monckton caused a furore at the U.N. conference may rise a few eyebrows . Those at the conference had no answer to his statements.
The apparent back pedalling of government , regarding the Kyota protocol will not help low income families one iota . The legislation is in place , and will continue to drag tax from businesses , and cosequently , all purchases will incur additional , and growing costs . How can we hold M.Ps. accountable ?
Malcolm Rollinson.
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*The point made in the article is correct, the majority of New Zealanders are too busy getting on with the lives, recently arrived New Zealanders are probably in the main ignorant of what is going on and would find it hard to understand that an elected government would even consider going down this path of separation. The main stream media I think would be incapable of providing a balanced view, however in saying that the New Zealand Herald recently ran a very good series of articles about the state of New Zealand cricket, perhaps they could do the same on the Maori Party’s plan to introduce a bicultural constitution? Robert

*For a start all maori with a european surname should be removed from any maori roll as they have pakeha relations so they are not genuine maori. That would bring the population of so called maori down to a true size. Jim

*It is so important that the public become aware of what is going on. You must get the issue onto TV. What about John Campbell - wouldn't he be interested in backgrounding the whole constitutional review? And what about Q+A - they would be interested I suspect. If it's not on TV the public will stay in the dark. Andrew

*Have you thought about an internet campaign - a viral email that is so powerful everyone sends it on to their contacts? Sam

*You will need to use regular media - TV, newspaper, and radio as well as social media including facebook. The key is to make the issue simple and compelling. Most people's eyes glaze over when you mention the Treaty or the constitution, so you will need some smart people to help design the messages. Susan

*What about a great Youtube video. Really good ones can attract hundreds of thousands of views, so it can be very effective way a communication. Peter

*Somehow there has to be a "hook" for the media. They want news and conflict/scandal to report. Is there anything going on with that govt panel that might be of interest to the media. Or what about those meetings for Maori-only? Reporting on what the soverignty movement really wants would be pretty scandalous I suspect! Mike


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