NZ Centre for Political Research

So Chris Finlayson is currently being paid an annual salary of $250K? PLUS, perhaps a fairly robust accomodation allowance? travel perks? a car(s)? and driver(s)? as well as a credit card, I take it?

Is there anything else he's being paid that we don't know about?

What a TOTAL WASTE of taxpayers money! Surely this money would have been better spent compensating these poor victims of state-funded violent crime ! At least they would have had SOMETHING!!!

But making them walk away empty-handed??? WHAT AN ABOMINABLE INSULT!!! (yet not so surprising really, as it's the same card the government has played in denying me compensation for what my children & I have been subjected to by HNZC - see topic 'Housing NZ - Fleecing NZ') i.e. an utter washing of the hands despite their being 100% culpable, a blatant denial of any moral duty to show any form of responsible let alone adequate accountability.

But WHY must so many NZ'ers be forced to live such tormented lives at the hands of the government?

$250K?

http://www.3news.co.nz/No-govt-compensation-for-women-raped-by-police/tabid/423/articleID/169949/Default.aspx OMG!!! Chris Finlayson's lousy decision-making again!!! How much is this guy paid???

Yes I also totally agree libertycaroline, & again welcome to the forum!

Well said, libertycaroline, and you have put it perfectly. A big welcome from me too. I hope you enjoy the Forum.

Hear, hear libertycaroline - and welcome to the forum!

I agree. We're totally different creatures. I'm not a man, and enjoy femininity.

What's more important than sexual equality is that men and women have equality of opportunity. Only then can everyone be free to make something of themselves.

Seeing in her rant Monica seemed to promote some sort of moral equivalence between Christianity and Islam, I thought I would post these here for her enlightenment.

Cry...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 46692.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... weeks.html

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Defaul ... id=1116150

I don't really think it is possible to truly have equal rights with men. We are both very different creatures and, let's face it, women aren't built to be able to do everything a man can do and wouldn't want to and men wouldn't want to do everything a woman does I'm sure. However, where women and men can equally do the same job, for instance, they should have equal pay for it, but otherwise we should accept our differences. It's not always feasible for women to feel they must be treated the same as men, like in Wimbledon tennis (not sure about the other tournaments) where men play the best of 5 and women the best of 3. Apparently the women feel they should have the same prize money but I don't think this is fair. I'm quite happy being a woman and don't want to feel the need to compete with men to feel on a par.

How many woman truly want equal rights with men? Would they be prepared to give up some of the special privileges they have?

A very good point, Rose. We must resist it all the way. In fact I'm totally against Islam establishing itself in our country at all. Their 'ways' are totally against everything we stand for and one just has to look at the UK to see the disaster allowing Islamic people into their country virtually unhindered, has caused to the very fabric of their society. Before you know it, our ways would be changed to 'accommodate' their fanatical beliefs and this means the rights of their women wouldn't be the same as for the rest of us even though they will try to say they like it that way. It's the way they have been brought up and they wouldn't dare go against what their men want.

Due to the current trend already underway to Islamify the rest of the world, I consider this topic "Why Woman's Rights Matter" to be extremely important.

Under the politics of Islam women are treated worse than dirt! This is totally unacceptable and therefore Islam must never be given any opportunity to spread it's poisonous tentacles further afield.

Good point GENESIS1 Over my dead body! Only men were made out of slime (well dust actually). Women were made from far superior substance . . . which is WHY we have "rights" silly!

If you don't believe me then check for yourself in the book of Genesis 2:7 which states clearly that God did indeed make man from dirt. . . though in Genesis 2:21-23 it clearly describes the process in which God made woman! And it certainly WASN'T from dirt, but in fact from a considerably more evolved higher life form.

JD...Why should I believe you? What are your credentials?

Rose: Fine, but we have an issue here about 'rights'. What is the philosophical basis for rights for anyone...and in particular women? Monica and JD don't appear to want to ground rights in the created status of human beings. Monica certainly doesn't think any unborn woman has any rights at all. I assume both think humans evolved over time, out of slime, by random processes. If so, it's pretty hard to justify 'rights' for anyone at all. As a story on an atheist in 'The Weekender' (DomPost Mag) today said,
'Science alerted him to the theory of evolution, "that humans are essentially another animal developed over time. ...One of the big things about religion is that humans are unique. It underlines Christianity." Science also revealed the massive size of the universe. "We're one small dot in so many galaxies."

So...humans aren't unique. They're just animals like any other. Individually, we're just a microscopic dot, living for a microscopic dot of time, on a microscopic dot of a planet, in a ginormous universe, and thus we are utterly insignificant.

Question: Do humans have any value to get excited about? What are rights...and specifically 'woman's rights'? Who determines if rights exist, and if they do, why do they and what are they?

Its all very well to slag off as Monica did bitterly at 'god BS', and as JD did with more good humour, but by doing so they've shot themselves in the foot well and truly. Perhaps rights don't exist and any appearance they do is just that, an appearance - in the same way Dawkins says the design in the universe is only apparent, not real. Perhaps it should be just survival of the fittest/strongest/craftiest as Monica wants with with abortion - adult women are bigger and stronger than unborn women and so can do to the unborn women whatever they like including killing them.

Okay you guys! No offence, but can we just please keep to the topic which is "Why Womens' Rights Matter" ?