NZ Centre for Political Research

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*If the ETS goes through in its current (or similar) form our country will go 'to the wall'. Plain syupidity! Kris

*Scrap it. It's a scam. Ron

*We are far too small a Country to have such a draconian piece of legislation imposed on us. The effects on our economy and the personal finances of our population will be totally unacceptable. Doug

*Al Gore = Chicken Little proclaiming the sky is about to fall. Only trouble, just like the fable, too many people believe him. I suppose 'Foxy Loxy' is going to be China and/or India and consume the other economies. Richard

*I have been a National supporter for about 45 years but no more, I think will get my vote from now. John

*1. No scientific evidence exists to conclusively confirm global warming is in fact occuring.
2. The government is placing its international interests above the national interest.
3. Any ETS will continue to increase production costs and foster the further destruction of maunfacturing and production in NZ. Regression continues.
4. Our stupidity is represented with the Japanese airline, ANA, introducing a policy that requires passengers to 'Pee" before boarding the aircraft in order to reduce take-off weight. They believe that this will save 5 tons of carbon per flight.
5. Latest reports are that the world has actually cooled this year.
6. Agree with Bob Jones - this is a one term national government.
Nick

*Absolutely not! David

*This climate change Bill is NOT about the so called worry over a Climate change CO 2 or polution.

The reason for the National Party's rush is to prostitute this country in order to secure a favourable response from third World Countries for a seat on the Security Council. Our Politicians are concerned about how they will LOOK at the UN...self glorification a la Helen Clark. Brian

*Why beggar the country for such a non-event? This is one reason why we need an Upper House in Parliament. Sheila

*Political non sense. Science ignored. Ian

*An acceptable compromise. Graham

*It is a world wide money making scam.The same people who traded the world into a depression will also feature in the carbon trading scam.The gangs have already started in UK and Europe.Say no before it is too late. John

*These people (Politicians)are abusing their respective resposibility to this nation. They are madcap!It seems that they will just do as they wish before they are once agian thrown out on their backsides. Its very disheartening and there is really no party that respects their constituncy, including Rodney Hide. Most bureaucrats in this nation are the same. They are not elected so they continue from where the politicians leave off. Even when there is an oportunity to be heard, the peconcieved policy is thrust down the proverbial throat. Corgi.

*A big scam, for more tax. Ian

*If the National party, Labour party, Greens and Maori party, who collectively have about 95% of the popular vote,all support this global warming rubbish, what hope is there for New Zealand's future? John

*I am bitterly disappointed with National over this matter. They sensibly campaigned that they would follow and be moderate and now they are braying that they are leading the pack.It may well be the straw that breaks the already weak economy's back. Baxter

*This isn't what I voted for. What the hell are they playing at? John

*This is all about finding new ways for the govt.to grab more tax and then what for-handing it over to Maori to fund the other rort in this country and continue the slide into backwardness. The thing will be to stop Nick Smith ramming it through Parl. before 11th Dec. Also John Key's window-dressing and deal-making ways. Time for marching in the streets against both these rorts!! Monica

*I feel sick that I voted for John Key and now see what he is prepared to do to the country with unsubstantiated information. I don't believe he is stupid so I must believe that it is deliberate. Why? Bevin

*The public have had a dishonest and misleading spin sold to them. The implications are a disaster. John

*Climates have changed throughout the history of the planet. Sea levels have varied by tens perhaps hundreds of metres. Ice caps have waxed and waned. The planet will survive but civilisation is under threat as a result of runaway population growth. Brazil has secured a coming Olympic Games based to some extent on its president's statement that 70% of its population is under 18 yrs. of age. Iran has similar statistics. No one cares or comments. Peter

*I think it will be the worst bill proposed and will damage the economy. Sharon

*National was voted in partly because it opposed emissions trading. Do we need another philip field inquery? When a crime is committed look for the money. Hugh

*Outrageous what National does to us! I hope to be able to pass on this article to many many people. Why are New Zealanders so fast asleep? Ingrid

*We are being conned. Patrick

*Just another tax? Peter

*This is the biggest rort to ever have been perpetrated on the NZ taxpayer - when will we wake up? Probably when its too late! Murray

*Just WHO will have the responsibility to make sure that the money raised through the ETS will be properly managed and used to do what they say it will do? Large amounts of money, raised in the same way as taxes, are seldom managed well at all. Janice

*Too soon - facts still debateable. Jane

*As scams go AGW is the biggest in human history period. Maurice J

*Ridiculous! What are we going to do about China/USA/developing countries--NZ is nothing in the scale of things, besides its getting colder in NZ. Gerald

*Climate change is a scam, a bigger scam than the Nigerian 419rs. Phil

*No, it is evil based on man's wisdom, Christ IS upholding all things, also the climate. Theo

*These guys are mad, mad with their own importance and grandstanding. How do we stop it? Ann

*I am definitly suspicious of anything which comes out of the UN and certainly do not support the 'latest' emissions trading bill. Our politicians are being knobbled by a pack of activists with ulterior motives and need to begin using their own common sense. As you have rightly stated our little country is not the problem and anything we did to fix it (if indeed there is anything to fix) will only cost the tax payer more money and put the people of NZ further in the control of the government. Or is this what it is all about?? Control?? Bronwyn

*Climate has always been changing.To lay the cause as man made is plainly wrong. Commonsense only needsto consider how "Greenland" got its name. Because it was once farmed, grassed and with trees.The Danes of all people should answer that and point out to Nick Smith and John Key the folly of their ways. Don

*Is this just asnother money gathering exercise? Nobody has said where all the monet is going to when it is collected. Why is there so much emphasis on emissions where during the industrial era it must have been much higher than now and yet did any harm come out of it? Surely with all the technology today that burning fuel must be considerably cleaner. Apart from that the world is in an economic down turn and yet the Government expects people to dig deeper to pay for this. Where is the practicality of all this especially when there is proof that climate change is not existing. Judith

*It has been hastily put together to appeal to the Greenies and confuse the rest of us. Sandra

*Right of this present moment we are headed for the next ice age not gobal warming. NZ can not stand the pain financially. Wake up John Key you are worthy of better than this. John

*Nick Smith needs to stand on his own two feet and put aside all this garbage he is being fed by the UN. Auntie Helen will be in the mix somewhere as all her new world programmes need money to fund them. Wake up Nick this is not about climate change it's about U.N. one world control of all countries that have money that can be accessed, one way or another, if in the meantime the country goes down the gurgler too bad. Show some of your integrity Nick your short term notoriety for all the wrong reasons is not worth it to you in the long term. And the present MET Amendment Bill is the most destructive proposed piece of legislation that any Government has tried to impose on this nation. I am now not sure you have anyone capable of thinking this through to the benefit of New Zealand which is your job that's what we pay you for. That you think you can come up with a viable scheme in the present time frame you are either losing it, or, you are being manipulated by others. I don't like to think about the latter but the stakes are too high for anything less than a line by line check and a reviewed justification of every word by more than politicians before this gets back to parliament. This proposal is a crock and could see you guys out the door at the next election unless you smarten up. Tony

*Why should we waste our expense at a load of poppycock ! Ken

*A thousand times No! I have supported a National government all of my life and after the last election I was looking forward to some reduction in the sort of PC garbage this country has become conditioned to. I can promise unequivocally that if this mob continue down this path they will most certainly have done in my support for all time. I am just so disappointed. Jim

*Man made global warming is a load of rubbish and the taxing of it is to extract money from citizens with no solution to the "problem" possible! Bernie

*The emperor is Naked. Dellae

*Nowhere enough research, by QUALIFIED people has been refered to by National. They're no better than the morons in Labour... Don

*Any emissions trading scheme is just a licence to pollute. We should spend money on reducing pollution because it is a good thing to do. Then it won't matter if the World is being warmed up or not because we would have solved the global warming problem, if it exists, and have clean air. And there is nothing wrong with that. We are being subject to a barrage of misinformation from the environmental nazis, the conservation fascists and the green communists who make up a triumvirate of evil and who want to organise our lives for us. They are not really interested in the environment but in controlling and punishing others because administering punishment is what they enjoy most of all. K

*Its all been said but its not politic to listen. Bruce

*ACT NZ haven't done anything so far to stop the rot - was one of their campaign platforms last year. Peter

*I cannot comprehend why a government would impose such a shonky tax on it's unsuspecting citizens. Roderick

*But there again, if it does not pass we are left with the old one which is worse! Alan

*The so called science is bullshit! Bryan

*I voted national because of election promises they are not fulfilling. If I could have my vote again I would not vote national. June

*Why should we be the first? What is proposed is going to impact on many low income persons, another interference in our lives from government. Jane

*Why are people so dumb. The whole thing is a pointless exercise. Just ask the following qestions. Where does the money go. Who benefits from payment of this money. Will it stop the climate change. Of course tha answer is NO!!! on all counts. The whole exercise is a scam, carbon trading was dreamed up by the crooks at EXON and it is just another way for Governments to relieve us of our hard earned money. I am amazed that the NZ public are not up in arms about the whole scheme. Doesnt anyone bother to take note of what is happening around them,??? Allan

*The whole issue is a farce! Ken

*No!, No!,No!, No!, No!, No! Graham

*Totally unbased. Thick Smith is an incompetent nincompoop! John

*It is a case of "out of the frying pan & into the fire". 10 years under the socialists and we appear to be just continueing on. This is what MMP has given us. Graeme

*I agree with everything Muriel says, and it is time the media took up this subject with some objectivity. Annette

*The govt. needs to wait for the Copenhagen conference before taking this bill to parliament. We must listen to what the rest of the world have to say on global warming and what they are going to do about it. We will end up the laughing stock of the world. if the bill is past now.. Helen

*I agree that if we follow the E T S path we are in deep trouble. Desmond

*While I'm in support of trying to help the environment, I think that making carbon credits a tradeable commodity is abhorrent and just plain wrong. Nicky

*The haste with which the ETS is introduced is disturbing, even suspect. Eneka

*Why do the people of Nelson keep voting that idiot Nick Smith as their MP? Between him & Key, they seem to be intent on wrecking an already debt-ridden country's economy to prop up those corrupt 3rd world countries. I am really disappointed in Mr.Key, and will not vote for him again. Carolyn

*There is absolutely no reason for any ETS except to increase taxation on the poor public. The whole thing is BS (unless there is another political agenda that we have not been told about) or am I just being too generous. Robin

*It is just a form of tax to the UN. Andrea

*I support very little about National even though I voted for them. But not again. Chris

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*I don't support any ETS or cap and trade systems as the basis is unproven science put up by parties with vested interests. Follow the money. Bill

*A nonsense! David

*How can the NZ Government make such an important decision regarding an unnecessary ETS scheme on the basis of statements made by a non-scientific body such as the IPCC? Don

*Again I despair at the wanton adulteration of our good counaatry. Where/when will we ever see some good old Kiwi common sense come to hte surface and influence our government policies. It's enough to make one consider migrating to where real sense prevails. Paul

*Disgraceful poiticians - what has happened to thinking? Arigo

*I thought the National Govt and John Key were better than this... Murray

*I will be ticking both ticks for act next time. Jeff

*The IPCC ? UN con is fully revealled, pure clarke unvielled, communist corruption to the core. The surprise is Key is running it, what colour national, blood red or asphixiated blue. Vern

*No matter what form it take any emissions trading bill, does nothing to actually reduce emissions. It is simply another way of taxing. Grant

*Waste of time and money - it's getting colder, not warmer. The whole damn thing is a rip off! Rick

*This bill is not thought out at all. It is just an ego trip for idiots. This National Govt. is more communist/socialist than Helen and her bunch of crooked cronies. There will be no actual effect on those politicians who vote "yes" because we the taxpayer cover all their costs - as usual! Grahame

*Just another scam by this National Socialist Government. They truly disgust me. Michael

*Nick Smith needs to forget politics and look at reality. The climate change issue lies somewhere between a sham and a scam. Peter

*An untried non-solution to an unproven non-problem! David

*They have become a turncoat on their promises in the election. This will be a disaster for NZ. Carol

*Put the whole thing in the bin. Quicker the better! Dennis

*IT IS ALL BULLSHIT. Michael

*They have lied to us and are worse than Labour. Wayne

*CO2 is 'Plant Food'. Global Warming and Cooling is controlled by Sun Spot Activity. I'm for cleaning up and preserving our environment but wish we could be logical and focus on the basics ... "minimize pollutants effecting our land and water" ... that would be a good start! Paul

*Here we go again! I am starting to think that there is no difference ideologically speaking, between Labour and the Nats. The current MP's are just as gullible about this issue as the former MP's of the Helen Clark days. In short, the MPs believe the lies about global warming and they are prepared to impoverish the rest of us to make themselves look good on the world stage. Shame on you National Government. Shame on your John Key and Nick Smith – you are both men pleasers and as far as I am concerned, gutless. I will never vote National ever again, they have no integrity, because they have flip-flopped on this matter just to make themselves look like world leaders. Any idiot could do that! Walter

*Key has contradicted just about everything he said National would do before the election. MMP is a farce. Graeme

*It is largely rubbish, based on pseudo-scientific rubbish! Worse, we have to pay for this rubbish!! Frank

*A resounding NO! Your article says it all. Personally, looking at the recent history of NZ politicians, I don't believe it'll make the slightest difference to policy, however many of us speak out against this ridiculous ETS & it's ilk. Our politicians all seem infected by the same bug: namely that they are there to be our parents, teaching us the 'right way' whether we like it or not. All we can do is to vote to change both our voting system & the party in power. But who is the lesser of all the evils?? Mari

*We thought the Helen Clark government was terrible with her plans to use NZ to secure her job with the UN. Now the Key government is going down the same track with lies, half-truths and deception. Will Kiwi's ever have the brains to elect a government that runs New Zealand as a profitable business? In World terms we are only the size of a large company. For example Indian National Railways once employed 5 million employees. If we could only run NZ Limited as a profitable business we would all have more money in our pockets and none of the nonsense that goes with those who choose not to work and live off the state. The National government will end up driving more well trained people off shore to live in Australia. Ernest

*To quote Paul Henry - Global Warming is the modern day (Emperor's New Clothes). Alternativley it is the biggest scam in history, or a realy clever marketing trick - "how to make people buy something that does not exist". John

*As a long time supporter of the Nats I can only say that I am deeply disappointed and alarmed at where they are going with the ETS. There are masses of independant scientific data proving what a total croc the whole thing is. This is being ignored and is being done so at the risk of great economic peril to N.Z. Act is the only party that has a realistic approach to this issue. They will be getting both my votes at the next election. Ronmac

*Everything about climate change is a farce. It's all about money and control. Colleen

*It is terribly wrong!! Maynard

*The science is not proven - I can't believe how gulible our politicians are, unless there is an underlying motive to want this change for other than 'saving humanity' reasons Bruce

*High Tax costs all NZ's. Bruce

*Has this government established where the money taxpayers will be expected to stump up, ends up? This whole project is beginning to look like a massive scam, so WHO is going to get these millions of public dollars. Has it been tracked through yet? Vic

*Too hasty. I think the tide will turn against global warming and emissions trading. The problem is that the news media don't want to look at the contrary arguments because they are not "bad news" and the arguments are to complex to be easily articulated. Graham

*This willmake them a one term government and they are too thick to see this. John

*Absolutely and emphatically "No"! Have we elected a government of fools ? Robin

*It is not based on true facts. Leo

*No - This whole CO2 business is a lot of rot! I had email conversations with Dr. Wratt at NIWA when he said CO2 had increased by 34%. When I told him it was exactly the same level here as it was 35 years ago, all email from NIWA stopped. (Because I was researching the use of CO2 for increasing tomatoe production under glass, I have equipment for measuring CO2 winthin a few parts per million). By the way, who's account does our government's cheque go into? The UN? Norm

*It's a rort, a con, a scam, why would ever anyone believe anything that the UN had to say on any issue. With the speed that Helen hightailed it to the UN office in New York its clear just how that organisation works. Rob

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*Absolutely NO NO.The UN has been attempting to sell an order for panic for years. Ebola virus, bird flu, Y2K meltdown,even the RMA can be traced back to the UN. It is all designed to undermine property rights by stealth, to implement a socialist take-over. The list of scare tactics is a lot longer than is room for here. Malcolm

*Definitely not! Neil

*They are being to hasty in their decision. Beverley

*Absolutely not! Russell

*It is a breach of promise. Eneka

*Global warming is the political equivalent of "The king's new Clothes. It is a scandal and absolutely ridiculous. Barbara

*The drivers of this bill are intelectual pigmys and deserve to be voted out of parliament at the next election! Victor

*Socialist rubbish, but until the peasants take control of their lives (and the Govt) they deserve what they get. Not even ACT will solve this problem, it is time for a Libertarian solution. KP

*The whole sceme should be scrapped! David

*What a travesty that any government chooses to be so influenced by pseudo science. Catherine

*We are in more than enough trouble now. The last thing we need are massive cost increases for no gain! Roy

*The incompetence and arrogance of our politicians beggars belief ! Max

*I still beleive Climate Change is a natural phenomenon any books I have read indicate this. Jim

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*I am deeply disappointed that for the sake of what appears to be pure EGO our government will put us to great financial stress and inhibit national progress. The Australian opposition is saying exactly the same things- why dump great numbers of Australian jobs that will just go to already heavy poluting countries - take the coal industry & China for instance. Someone else will make huge money out of this nonsense but not New Zealand. Anne

*We need to creatively and responsibly respond as a nation, not this imposed knee-jerk reaction to be imposed by the government. Jan

*Read and learn the truth from Ian Wishart's "Air Con". Ken

*I think it is a badly thought through piece of proposed legislation (like so much of our legislation) that will have a detrimental effect on the whole of NZ. Why are we signing up to something fabricated by a UN agency?? Mark

*A big resounding NO!! The whole thing is a great big scam and shame on the National Party for not only supporting this nonsense but appearing to lead the world. A United Nation's job for Nick Smith? It certainly looks like that's what he is aiming for. He's just as bad as Helen Clark, if not worse because this will have long term adverse repercussions if it goes through. He appears to be ignoring all opposition and driving full steam ahead in trying to ram it through. John Key needs to wake up - quickly. Helen

*NZ Politics = 1 brain cell shared between National & Labour - obviously the cell is not being used by National at the moment. If passed this will cause the biggest exodus of intelligent people this country has ever seen. Perhaps that is what the politicians want? Chris

*I don't have enough information to support it. What happened to the RIS we were supposed to have.It would appear that we are going to be dictated to by the UN and the IPCC. I would hope our guys in Copenhagen in December do not rush NZ into anything we will untimately regret and will not be able to afford. Phil

*It is another "no brainer" and extremely damaging to our country. A Government which pursues this should be replaced immediately as they do not have the interests of the people in mind at all. Dennis

*It shows what an inept set of MPs we have. I'm for Vaclav Klaus!!!! David

*Absolute overkill - 50% of 0.2% is still absolutely nothing. Cliff

*The govt appears to be ignoring advice from experts, in favour of trying to impress 'The Joneses' at Copenhagen. The ETS is ill-advised and will cost us all dearly. Ann

*I believe it is with out a doubt the biggest perception managment con/scam as has ever been imposed on the world. Once established it will never be revoked no matter what the climate does. Shame on National- I believed you -Shame on me John

*I wouldn't have believed that National politicians could be so ignorant and stupid as they are proving to be! Isn't there anyone in the National caucus with any sense? I have been a National voter for over fifty years; that is, until the last election. I did not vote National precisely because of their idiotic and damaging policies on the non-problem of climate change. Tony

*Time the Govt pulled there heads out of the sand The UN is well past its use by date it is just another useless highly paid people enjoying the fruits of peoples hard work Just think how much better the world would be with out that drain on finances. Russell

*Crazy! Don

*Had John Key made this clear before the election, instead of letting folk think he was anti "climate change" I for one would never have voted for him Hugh

*NO WAY !! - it scares the hell out of me and I cannot understand why the Media is not reporting far more factually about this situation instead of all the Climate Change/Global warming nonsense that they print and/or report! NZ - WAKE UP !! Dallas

*If the government does not throw this legislation out, or at least wait, they will be thrown out at next election. Get your act together, and prepare legislation that suits US in NZ., and let the rest of the world worry about themselves. Cecelia

*My country must not be led by the UN and it's Auntie Helen policies. The NZ politicians are stupid to be sucked into such an obvious scam. And would everyone be required to share the burden? Oh no, I believe our dark natives would benefit greatly from this scheme. The whole thing smells of something really bad. Neil

*We are going to be taken to the cleaners economically. Suicide! Glenn

*Why is Rodney not shouting from the rooftops his opposition to this? Don

*NO!!!! I will probably not vote National again either. How to ruin a great country. Lets get rid of them. Fraser

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*This National Govt is treating NZ citizens like fools. We are only fools if we let them ram this nonsensical legislation through. Most thinking NZers couldn't wait to rid this country of nearly 10 years of communist rule by Clark and co, yet little has changed! sharen

*This bill gives new meaning to the word 'stupid'. Climate change will happen as nature intends, it always has. TeWirimu

*Like all the Climate Change "science", the proposed ETS is complete bollocks!!! At 0.2% of global emmissions, the UN should be saying "Don't worry NZ, your emissions aren't significant enough" But no we have to "play our part" . The whole thing is ludicrous but, on the bright side, once it is proven to be false, it will be the end of the Greens! Dave

*It won't make any difference to the climate. We cannot afford it. The science is very suspect. We need less govt, not more! Govt should fix the race issues not muck about with silly things. Peter

*As a farmer my sheep and cattle daily convert grass(CO2) into wool and meat in 1,000's Kgms per day. Laurie

*It is complete rubbish and the politians should read in depth the research enormous on this subject that it is cyclical and happens naturally and that humanity makes no difference. Trixie

*Dopey laws for a country who produces none of the problem Tim

*Publicise our petition against the ETS- go to www.climaterealists.org.nz. EVERYONE needs to know about this!!! Esther

*Absolutely not. Especially rammed through 'under urgency! Murray

*No! It is unbelievable that the national cabinet is proceeding with this demonstrably false premise that the climate is changing and taxing the guts out of nz'ers will make one scrap of difference. Follow the money.The same govt. is set to cream 600 million from the power generators. Nick Smith should be replaced and not hold another post in cab. He is totally incapable. Harry

*No. You have to be ignorant, thick or on the payroll to go along with this scam! Ross

*Of course not but I am becoming tired of the battle. How can we possibly defeat these lunatics. Albyn

*I am very concerned - do you send this article to the electronic media and print media? Henry

*How embarassing for NZ - to be taken in by the UN scam! Nick Smith and John Key - is it all about YOU looking good at Copenhagen? What about us? Chris

*They are nuts! Garry

*I cannot believe that this hysteria continues to drive previously sane countries, like lemmings, plummeting over the cliffs of insanity towards economic suicide!! There is no rational basis for the 'scientific' arguments nor for the unprecedented surrender to this agenda! Michael

*No way!!! Christine

*New Zealand should be withdrawing from membership of UN! Elizabeth

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*My belief is that the Govt finances are in such a dire state that they are having to find ways of increasing tax revenues significantly. I'm sure the Govt coffers will benefit from the ETS somehow. Raising direct taxes such as income tax and GST will cause too much backlash so they are imposing indirect and/or hidden taxes. This is exactly what Tony Blair's Labour Govt did in the UK when they came to power. Once these additional taxes are established it is much easier to raise them little by little than it is to remove them. Gary

*It is no more than political grandstanding and flies in the face of real life evidence. Mo

*Waiting for the evidence. Jeff

*No, it is a giant scam. Greenies and others have been predicting doom for decades, all of their predictions have been wrong. Politicians want to grow their empire and power over us and this is just another scam to do that. This Government is just as fraudulent and corrupt as the last one. It is not ignorance, it is a scam. Mike W.

*It's just another 'share market for the rich', designed to take more from all of us for their benefit. Allan

*Let's leave until the politicians and IPCC recognise and accept that the world is now cooling and that CO2 can not possibly be affecting temperature. Evan

*An immense financial scam! Ken

*I don't support any emissions trading bill. In fact I suggest thast one of the next big financial collapses will revolve around trading in carbon credits that won't be worth the paper the are written on. Robert

*Too much too soon. Ian

*When scientists are disagreeing with each other is not a good time to create any policy. A search for the truth is more appropriate. Darag

*Our last 2 winters have been way colder. We don't have the economic climate to be taxed more. Bye, bye National you're not going to last. Matthew

*It is diametrically opposed to the Govt's stated aim to improve productivity and GDP! Bernard

*Definitely NOT. Thomas

*Never ever ever etc... Clark

*People need to recognise the correct cause of global warming , ie Solar, but as coal and oil are essential to our civilisation we need to stop burning them for energy and keep them for all the chemicals we need. Graeme

*Most certainly not. I dont understand our Govt's motives. They are supposed to support business. Helen

*Let's get this straight up front: it is all about TAX. Nothing more and nothing less.

When floating ice caps melt, they raise sea levels ZERO centimeters.

All they want (Lational or Nabour) is MORE AND MORE tax to spend willy-nilly without consideration for the people who actually have to earn the tax to pay for it.

MPs are our highest paid government BENEFICIARIES.

"Global Warming" only exists to gather more taxes.

The fact that Smith says the UN provides the "most reliable" information is ludicrous. It simply means we continue to live in the Fascist state of Aunty-Helen-grad driven by a group (the UN) who only want a Global Marxist State.

Swimming in the toilet bowl that is modern NZ society, I can hear National pushing the flush button now....
Mark

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*An imposition and embarrasment for NZ. Moral and economic bankruptcy continues. Shane

*The whole thing is a crazy, expensive and futile effort to solve a non-existent problem. Bryan

*Minister Tim Groser, when addressing the Go Global Conference last week, told us that he is not a scientist. But as Governments across the world were going this way, then who is NZ not to follow suit. What a pathetic excuse for action that is going to cost everyone a huge toll in all sorts of ways! Hugh

*No one would ever voluntarly invest in circumstances where the facts which might support such an investment are so unclear and where there is no requirement for an immediate decision. The Prime Minister undoubtedly knows this and cosequently one can only presume that his unwillingness to allow a proper analysis and debate is political expediency, something he may tend towards rather than provide the leadership that wouild give rise to the truth and an acceptable result. Tom

*We need to follow the world, not lead it! Neil

*I do not support any emissions trading bill, it is very disappointing that National have decided to follow the IPCC theory without questioning it's validity, sort of like getting the vatican to do a study on whether god exists. Still waiting on someone to advise where the money collected will go. John

*NO WAY!!!!!!! Get Nick Smith some brains! Were being laughed at for how rediculous this scheme is, it will have little effect if any on the 'Global warming' scam! It's disgusting and I for one am gutted my vote went to liars and theives. Melanie

*It wouldn't matter if 100% of us did not support Nationals position!!!!! They, like the previous labour government aren't listening!!!!!! I suspect they've lost my vote for a long time to come! Andy

*I think we have been cheated by the National Party and their dishonesty continues at our expense and that of our children who will end up taking their skills overseas. They will no longer get my vote. What a farce this government has turned out to be, where is their integrity? Melody

*Absolutely not! Emissions 'trading' is a financial rort designed ultimately to transfer the wealth of our country to the hands of UN financiers. Lloyd

*None of the climate change dogma has adequately been proven to be human originated.Let's stop for a cup of tea and if we feel impelled to control anything UN,consider birth control.Far more likely to limit real or imagined human pollution of the planet than any if this unnecessary unproven climate change doctrine. David

*It's a no brainer - we can't make any difference to the world situation as we don't even make a blip on the radar at present. However, we are a branch office of the UN already thanks to Helen's old mob and now John's idiot followers of the UN mantra despite all the evidence against it. Brace yourselves - our so-called first world standard of living will soon become third world (and it won't be at the top of that list ether - National will destroy our farming industry and ruin most businesses in NZ apart from the ETS scam artists. Anybody for moving overseas???? Grant

*What a sham. What a scam. What a scandal that they won't even defend the 'science' upon which the policy is based. Bob

*So what happens now? The whole global warming thing has been found to be a scam but how do we stop the government's jugganaut? Who will hold the government to account? Because someone damn well needs to! Pat

*Nick Smith is unbelievable - talk about forked tongues! On one hand he says that his ETS is reasonable and on the other he proclaims to the world that it is more draconian than any other. When will the PM reign him in and stop this nonsense? Simon

*The ETS bill should be left in front of Parliament until after the Copenhagen meeting and until after Australia has made some decisions on their ETS. By that time - with luck - the whole global warming scam will be totally revealed. Then the Bill will be able to be quietly shredded and NZ will escape this madness. Wendy

*Where are National's brains? Can't they see that an ETS will undo any progress on getting the economy right? Have these people got rocks in their heads? Tom

*The whole ETS, Global Warming propaganda scheme is a scam designed to allow left wing groups to gain even more control over us!!!!! I don't care if the ETS bill is National's or Sue Bradford's, it is all bull schiesenhausen!!!!! NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!! Dave

*Ah, but what the people want is now irrelevant! We no longer have democracy in NZ. We have socialst UN-controlled doer of Satan's will "L", and socialst UN-controlled doer of Satan's will "N", not forgetting socialst UN-controlled doer of Satan's will and racist bigots "M". Indeed, these last days of our planet are only going to get worse and weirder, as Satan steps up the pressure and humans willingly comply. How quickly do humans sell their soul to Satan for a few baubles of fleeting power, wealth or "fame"! How great are the consequences for us all in allowing Satan to walk all over us: from the global warming myth, to post-modern ethical relativism to pandering to the false wicked cult of Islam, humanity has become a spiritual / moral race of wimps dancing to Satan's tune... how God must weep over our degenerate state! Peter

This week's poll asks:

Do you support National’s emissions trading bill?

*NZ is such a small country we do not need an ETS. On top of that it is surely only time until the whole global warming scam is understood by everyone. The scientists who have uncovered the fraud in the IPCC's claims is doing the world an enormous service. Mike

*National have behaved in a despicable way over this whole emissions trading bill by failing to produce a regulatory impact statement then making the scheme more comprehensive than even Labour's was. At least we knew where we stood with the socialists - I thought we could trust National to so the sensible thing but obviusly I was wrong! Sue

*No, no, no - there is no global warming so there is no need for a stupid ETS. When will those crazy politicians wake up to what's really going on. Tony

*You may be right - a UN job application for Nick Smith! Peter

*I will never vote for National again if they go ahead and inflict that ridiculous scheme on the country. There is no global warming caused by mankind. It is all a fabrication by Al Gore and his greedy mates. Vaclav Klaus is dead right - they only want to control us all.. and that includes National as well! Stewart