NZ Centre for Political Research

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic policy-making?

*This Lemon must be burried! Alan

*No absolutely not. The IPCC"s lies and false propaganda will eventually come home to roost as it did for Hitler's Nazis. Unfortunately thanks to our gullible politicians we will pay a very high price economically! Bruce

*No, they only seem to provide what they want you to see...and its all to support their theories anyway. Audrey

*The problem New Zealand has now with the impending ETS, is the Emperor Has No Clothes effect, i.e that the people in charge don't want to look stupid now that everything they stake their reputation on is proven to be false. Nick Smith isn't an idiot so he should do all he can to delay a decision on the ETS until the science proves beyond a doubt that there is such a thing as human made global warming. Bill

*Emphatically, absolutely 200% resoundingly NOOOOOO. Jacky

*I am appalled and amazed at the rise of the new false religion espoused by anthropogenic global warming apostles. As a geologist and mineral economist I was equally astonished by the way the general public and politicians were hoodwinked by the "Club of Rome" advocates in the 1960's who also forecast armageddon as the world ran out of resources. The global warming nutters of today threaten the very fabric of society with their clamour to ban plant food (read CO2). I would not be at all suprised that, when the Facts on global warming finally emerge to drown their cries they will all be mataphorically burned at the stake. Hurry on that day! Peter

*The IPCC is a self serving body with it's snout in a very nutritious trough. Lee

*This subject has become a religion - you BELIEVE or don't believe. Science isn't even considered. It's all to do with emotive claptrap. Chris

*How are we ever going to change the direction this country is going in. The ETS is the dumbest thing this govt has done. John

*As I have posted previousely, as have many others, it is a scam. The UN was founded by 2 communists, their agenda for 60 years has been to have a one world socialist government. Mike

*Obviously the politians that vote for this horrendus assult upon the NZ ecomony have private funds stashed way off shore, because the ETS will be the ruin of this country. Relying upon the IPCC for an impartial opinion is sort of asking the thief what type of safe to install to safeguard the family jewels. Wendy

*The facts clearly speak for them selves! Shane

*It is quite obvious (to me) that the government is being swayed by the masses who have been brain washed by the media and the "so called" climate change authorities _ Keshia Castle Hughes, Lucy Lawless to name two!! Instead of actually researching proper science this government is committing us to economic suicide with there ETS stance! Dianna

*Definitely not. For them it's all about politics and control and nothing about science!! I'm so disappointed in Nick Smith. In 2005 he was saying the complete opposite of what he is now saying. Congratulations Muriel on an excellent open letter. We need more of them and I hope all of those in relevant prominent positions have received a personal copy. Helen

*But then again, I doubt the ETS has much to do with saving the planet. I believe the Govt is doing this to increase tax revenue. Voters will be far more forginving of a tax hike to save the planet than a straight increase in income tax. I predict we will see more and more increases in indirect and hidden taxes over the coming years. With an ageing population the Govt will see income tax revenue decrease and stay fairly static, whereas indirect taxes and GST have to be paid by everyone whether they are working or not. Gary

*The IPCC is effectively a Left-wing political body masquerading as the purveyor of scientific “truth”. Regrettably, there is no science that supports AGW - even Nature appears to be actively working again the hypothesis. It beggars belief that a relatively Right-wing ( supposedly ) government is doing their work for them! Dave

*This is too big an issue to rush through, what is the hurry to make push through this legislation? I cannot understand the haste all our politicians all parties, have to pass on the cost in dollar terms to New Zealanders of what will be in world terms an insignificant amount towards the so called man made global warming. Perhaps the government should provide our state owned television companies with funds to put to the forward to the general public all of the facts, both for and against on global warming and then let the public decide. Politicians are wrong big time on too many occasions. Robert

*The UK and Europe have blindly accepted the IPCC report on climate change and are using the fear to restrict trade in many ways. I'm sure there is no need for NZ to rush into an ETS but Nick Smith has been captured by the Green lobby and John Key takes the line of least resistance! Irvine

*UN and related bodies have been shown to distort facts and outright lie to further their own aims. To base our country's future on their "research" is criminal. Bernie

*The IPPC is a crock of shit. Those who believe it haven't done their homework so are uneducated imbeciles. It flies in the face of true scientific research and documented history. The IPPC have a political agenda. You cannot tax a natural phenomenon, the "fart tax" illustrated that. Davis

*Provided that it uses commonsense and evaluates all other available info to make decisions in the interest of first our islands, the Pacific and then globally. We get carried away in the analysis by either preconceptions or political expediencies, instead of looking after our own interests and responsibilities first. Franz

*Thank-you for the great work you are doing Muriel. If the Government wishes to maintain its credibility it can not use the IPCC's data, as the IPCC has been exposed as a criminal organization, running a scam.
eg: IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming http://www.prisonplanet.com/ipcc-scient ... rming.html
& Eight Studies Used by IPCC to Support AGW, have been shown to be fraudulent:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephill ... -ctd.thtml
Clare

*Absolutely NOT! That was an excellent article showing the origins of the corrupted data and how that when the correct data is properly extended back a few millenia then the current temperatures are not unusual. What is unusual is the levels of pollution we put into our environment. Pollutions which have no bearing on "so-called global warming" but directly relate to our health and modern diseases. That is the area we should be focussing on. Walter

*Handel's Messiah has a refrain Make us like sheep" - how appropriate in NZ!

*Absolutely not. Such action by Nick Smith ETS Bill must be regarded as treasonous and he should be removed from Parliament and barred from holding any public office ever again. He is deranged. Let him use his own life to demonstrate how we can all reduce pollution. Forget about methane and carbon dioxide. They are part of our natural environment and are both perfectly normal content of our atmosphere. Nick Smith ... get out of my life!!! Dianna

*"This is the excellent foppery of the world, that, when we are sick of fortune,--we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and the stars: as if we were villains by necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion” - "King Lear", Act 1 Scene 11. Brian

*When will everyone wake up and realise that this has nothing to do with either climate or science. This is part of a bid to systematically change the way that the world works. Wayne Mapp openly supports World Government through the UN and has since his days at Oxford University when he drank deep of the socialist Kool-ade. From his own lips he stated that in his estimation 50% of the national Caucus supports UN sponsored One World activities. Even more startlingly he claims that 66% of Cabinet Ministers think likewise. It beggars plain that the socialist left has captured a major faction within the National Party and nobody should be surprised that we now have the option of voting for a socialist Labour Party or a socialist - lite National Party. How has NZ come to this point you may ask? Well 40 years of scheming, lobbying and 'education' has seen the left all powerful. Only now are the underground left beginning to unmask and seize the levers of power by crushing all opposition. NZ is in serious trouble politically as a rampant left marginalizes its opponents and rams through its policies. The solution is a grassroots political revolution that actively opposes covert socialist National and ACT politicians during the selection process prior to the next election. That and the overhaul of the whole rotten electoral system! Peter

*The UN and the IPCC declared carbon dioxide a "toxin". Before they inflict their abject stupidity, perhaps each and everyone of them along with the sandal-brigade (tree huggers) can stop breathing so the rest of us pragmatists can get on with a life of reduced emissions and no more hot air from these oxygen thieves. But, all said and done, Key does not have the bollocks to do what is necessary so ETS will go ahead and Key, Smith and their mates Unleavened-bread-Sharples, Luddite-Locke et al will get to take EVEN MORE TAX off the real working New Zealanders. Welcome to the 4th World! Mark

*Definitely not. There is absolutely no logic for introducing an ETS or any other sort of dead-weight impost on the economy, other than to cynically keep NZ in favour (or at least not out of favour) with our export markets. We need this as a holding strategy until this whole climate change nonsense is exposed for the scam that it is. David

*The following is a letter written by me to my MP, John Key, which was redirected to Dr Nick Smith:

Hi John, (quickly heading toward being a one term wonder)

I wonder if you are really listening to what NZers are saying and how they/we disagree with the “global warming” ETS path you are taking this country towards.

I agree with Vaclav Klaus:

“The current Global Warming Debate is not about temperature or CO2 levels. It is an ideological clash between those who want to change us (rather than the climate) and those who believe in freedom, markets, human ingenuity, and technical progress. The advocates of global warming alarmism ask for an almost unprecedented expansion of government intrusion, of government intervention into our lives and of government control over us. We are pushed into accepting rules about how to live, what to do, how to behave, what to consume, what to eat, how to travel. It is unacceptable.”
Hon Vaclav Klaus, President Czech Republic.

And you can add, “how to discipline our children” to this.

Blindly accepting the UN’s incorrect agenda on so called “global warming” when the science completely disagrees, leads me to call into question the agenda of this government?

The IPCC’s claims about global warming are not based on science, but on data that has been doctored and has been proven invalid.

You do not have the mandate to place New Zealand in the position you seem to be driving us to.

You will destroy the New Zealand economy by going down this destructive ETS (emissions trading scam) path.

The reply was: "The Minister appreciates you keeping him informed and thanks you for taking time to write."

So Minister, time to take your head out of the UN sand and save New Zealand from a DISASTER.
Neil

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*And I thought Nick had more brains. If our government supports these flawed facts from the IPCC the writing is on the wall. They will be a one term government. Phil

*As for Al Gore, go to this link for a little surprise: http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp Janie

*Commend you on your open letter. Good to know that there are still some very intelligent people out there who feel the same as 80% of the country. Annie

*During the great depression the slightly mad stood on the street with Bord's proclaiming, repent repent the end is Nye whats has changed. N

*Absolutley not. This is the biggest fraud the world has ever seen. It has nothing to do with science and is all about tax and politics. Donald

*There is more and more evidence negating IPCC stance, some exposing outright deception and manipulation of statistical data, to the extent that I am left wondering just who is benefitting from it all, because someone somewhere is making a lot of money out of this, or will be. Irene

*NZ cannot afford to make any more stupid mistakes over climate change. Mary

*The financial penalty/burden the government is hell-bent on imposing will be nothing but a crippling disaster. We should stop trying to be world leaders in such dubious fields as this. In fact we need to be leaders only by refusing to be signatories to UN policies which are clearly BAD for NZ at the time or prove to so subsequently. There is no shame admitting we were wrong at the time and we now rescind our signature/support for this policy. Frank

*Agree that NZ should strongly resist climate change nonsense. Carl

*There is clearly an underlying agenda at work here. Colleen

*Could we all write individually to the Min ister also, urging the ditching of this silly scheme, or at least taking a more careful look at the evidence? Sheila

*I have sent an email to the Hon John Key saying in brief how they could possibly be sucked in so easily. Desmond

*The wonderful work your page is doing aside, I believe that democracy has died in N.Z. No matter what Kiwis' say, successive administrations keep pursuing the same course. It's as though some outside influence has taken away our right to govern ourselves. As a 72 year old, I despair of ever seeing the N.Z. I grew up in ever returning. I'm so disappointed in the present administration. David

*There are a lot of Ministerial egos involved here. Ministers Smith, McCullt, and Prime Minister Key have the Helen Clark Syndrome, a new found penchent for strutting the world stage. To be invited to sit at the tables of power they are going to follow the herd.It's more about self than what is best for New Zealand. Your letter to the Minister Smith reflects what thinking New Zealanders believe. My comments to the select committee were very similar. Michael

*I do believe that mankind has had a great impact on the environment and climate change, but we should not go blindly into an ETS policy without our own research. We should not blindly rely on evidence produced by others. I believe that money is the name of the "ETS game". All the costs to be borne by industry and people will not bring about a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Ron

*I call the IPCC the International Panel of crooked cronies. It has a record to be ashamed of. For forty years I tried to instal a sense of intellectual honesty in my Physics and Chemistry high school students and the IPCC shows no regard for such principals. Simon

*The Minister is wrong and should stand aside for a more astute individual. Bruce

*All the evidence is that fraudulent, I can hardly believe the minister is serious. Leo

*Great letter Muriel - scary isn't it? Gaylene

*Have always been rather sceptical of the theoretical findings. Mary

*Just another Government scam to do us out of our hard earned money what more do they want "BLOOD" !!!! Ken

*Hard to believe that the National Caucus is unified in accepting this IPCC crap. Haven't any of them the guts to speak out. Rocky

*Why are government ministers so scared of the U.N.? After all the people at the UN are only there because they are to incompent to work elsewhere. Hugh

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*If National put this policy into place they will not recieve my vote next time round! I have been a member of Greenpeace for 30 years and do not agree with the IPCC! Mark

*From everything I have read on climate change it is obvious thatthe findings of IPCC are suspect, and that this is a Global "con', which will destroy our farming industry. at a time when every bit of food that the world can produce is precious. It is also time we made use of our water source, which many parts of the world are screaning for. Alan

*Common sense Government - sadly they demonstrate over and over again that we were largely mistaken; it is not easy to tell the difference between them and the even more appalling Labour /Green coalition they replaced. We do need to urgently improve the shocking quality of our air and waterways, but that is a different matter to the foolish ETS the Government seems determined to foist on NZ regardless of the contrary evidence and of the damage it will do to our already fragile economy. Our slavish readiness to take seriously anything coming out of UN subcommittees defies belief. John

*If the majority of this country's citizens don't wake up to the seriousness of this issue in a big hurry, we are screwed! This is not just some dumb politicians bumbling along but a planned course of action being implemented by carefully selected and groomed politicians, putting into action their masters "New World Order". This involves stripping the nation of it's ability to govern itself both socially and economically. John Key, Nick Smith and all politicians who vote in favour of the ETS should be tried for treason! Robert

*Obviously the politians that vote for this horrendus assult upon the NZ ecomony have private funds stashed way off shore, because the ETS will be the ruin of this country. Relying upon the IPCC for an impartial opinion is sort of asking the thief what type of safe to install to safeguard the family jewels. Wendy

*But then again, I doubt the ETS has much to do with saving the planet. I believe the Govt is doing this to increase tax revenue. Voters will be far more forginving of a tax hike to save the planet than a straight increase in income tax. I predict we will see more and more increases in indirect and hidden taxes over the coming years. With an ageing population the Govt will see income tax revenue decrease and stay fairly static, whereas indirect taxes and GST have to be paid by everyone whether they are working or not. Gary

*The whole thing is stupid, crazy, and will create a monster which will be almost impossible to dump in 5 years time. I spoke with Minister of Trade Tim Groser on this subject. His view was that most of the worlds Government's are going down this track, and so who is NZ to go against this tide. Obviously he has never heard of NZ's anti nucluer policy, of votes for women and so on where NZ has taken its own path in the past! Hugh

*How can this undemocratic decision be changed? David

*Never! Many books by well qualified people have now been published. The latest and best to date because of the standing of the author and the comprehensive cross referencing of all statemens is Prof. Ian Plimer's "Heaven + Earth". We seem to be dealing with the latest version of the "Flat Earth" society! Harry

*Unqualified reliance on IPCC is unscientic; there are many opposing views. Eneka

*I strenuously oppose the current direction of our Government in relation to climate change. This will become a beaurocratic nightmare. Peter

*The IPCC is a totally corrupt left-wing driven and biased body. Unfortunately Key & Co are failing us dismally. They don't have a philosophical basis to work from and just act on the spur of the moment. And their current spur of the moment actions are pathetic "me, too!" I, for one, have been bitterly disappointed by their policies. Ron

*Far better evidence is needed to make such a big change to our standed of living. Jeff

*There appears to be no mention of "sunspot" activity in any "warming" reports. I have a graph which co-relates temperature with sunspot activity. Sine 1750, high sunspot activity coincides with increased global temperature. This should be taken into account when "Global Warming" alarmists try to force us in to taking part in the biggest fraud in history, ETS. Jim

*Abolutely not. This is the biggest US driven scandle ever!! Murray

*No - but they will. The Bible has foretold of this end-time scenario of rampant financial disaster and cowing of the populace for over 2,000 years. The truth is that it IS a conspiracy: but as the months roll by, the conspirators and their master, Satan, will care less and less about dressing up their lies and will instead simply rely more and more on raw coercion and brute force. So you might want to put off that new 50" LCD, leather couch, new carpet or 2nd car - you'll be needing that money to buy bread in the next few years...Peter

*They need sacking - too many silly people are blindly following them. Jasmine

*They are a bunch of Government controlled and paid sycophants who will not get their salaries if they publish anything that goes against the wishes of the UN or the Governments who employ them. For this reason and this reason alone any so called scientific data published by them should be viewed with suspicion and ignored as it will be extremely one sided and geared towards the views of their masters. Allan

*I fully support your letter to Nick Smith. Vaughan

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*I have spent over 40 years employed and contracted to the New Zealand Meteorologial Service & NIWA. I have studied paleo-climatology and am convinced from the data that we're currently in a cooling cycle and that the 'catastrophic climate' change presented by the IPCC is purely one of political agenda. Bruce

*Anything associated with U.N. should be viewed with suspicion. U.N.'s agenda is world domination. John

*This global warming nonsense, sorry I mean climate change nonsense is just scientific hysteria. K

*Dr Smith should be placed under arrest for defrauding the public if he goes ahead with this in spite of the data. Mick

*No informed person would trust the IPCC further than he could throw a piano. Roy

*The people driving IPCC have a political and philosophical axe to grind. They are dishonest and manipulative and so are their cooked up figures and graphs. In the case of Al Gore, the visual "evidence" in his film is fake - stuff from film sets, shots of polar bears jumpimg off small iceflows with open sea beyond, when a shot the other way would have shown lots of other small icebergs with polar bears on and the big ice sheets beyond them. There are political forces which have an agenda to bring the world under one government set up by the UN. The ETS is a first step in an inernational tax régime. One would think that the UN is made up of peaceful, freedom-loving people from all around the world. Of course they are not! Most of them are military dictatorships who oppress and pillage their people. Why do western governments grovell to such people? They want their moment of glory in the sun of a world stage and have no solid philosophical and moral principles. Government should be kept small so it focuses on its real responsibilities: defending its people from wicked people within and from without, safe-guarding on honest free market, and ensuring the property rights and freedom of its people. The IPCC and the ETS are attacks on these rights. Ignore them at your peril. Duncan

*They have based their predictions on false data! Wes

*I know that this question is impossibly naive, but how is it that "greenhouse gases" keep warmth from escaping from our atmosphere but at the same lets it in? How do they know for sure that it won't work in reverse and earth will be colder? Parsy

*Another policy rushed through without due consideration or proper consultation! John

*Bury the lemon!! Neville

*Its time they got non political people to look into the whole ETS scheme. Geoff

*Not only are there finding irrelevant to the NZ economy I am shocked that the government have failed to research more broadly than an organisation who have been publicly shown to provide inaccurate information. Carol

*I agree that man made global warming is a fallacy because the greatest greenhouse gas by far is water vapour. Warren
if you tell a big enough lie! Stuart

*This ETS is just a great con! The UN aims to take our wealth(?)as a 'comfortable' nation and redistribute it to the third world. Read Ian Wisharts book 'Air Con' and you will be convinced - purely and simply it is a socialist con - and our Government has been taken in by it... Fred

*Policy reference material should based on the non-political, non-partisan work of independent authors. We are being asked to accept far too many shonky work presented under the guise of academic research. Peter

*Perish the thought. Catherine

*The IPCC has been severely discredited. Muriel, your letter including mention of Briffa's fraudulent data is well-written and should be FRONT PAGE NEWS for the MSM to publish! Ross

*Being such a small country with a small population why do we have to be seen as leaders with this ETS, it just doesn't make sense to me! Peter

*What can we do to stop this government (or any other party) from introducing stuff like this? Dianne

*Absolutely NOT. I can't believe that the NZ Govt is so naive as to swallow this propagander.Why does NZ follow the (left wing) world opinion on this. Where is our stubborn, analytical, slightly cynical streak? We are turning into soft socialists in paying homage to the new eco religion! I can stomach a world wide pollution tax -lets just call it what is is rather than disguising it in hysteria. Cathy

*Muriel, much and all as I respect you and what you are doing please realise that you are dealing with a bunch of crazy lunatics not people of your high intelligence. We must concentrate also on getting rid of MMP and getting rid of some of the Lunatics. I am so disappointed in this National government and feel so let down. They will not listen to anyone. Try watching two movies I have recently watched. One is The boy in the stripped pyjamas and the other is Defiance. Both of these movies will show you what happens when you get leaders that have crazy beliefs and no one has the courage to go against these beliefs. Unfortunately the bulk of new zealanders are followers and non carers and they just go with the flow. When they wake up they will be living in a poverty stricken country and there will be no turning back. These sheep must remember that the rich can escape by going elsewhere. I talk to people and they have no interest in what is happening and I just feel like giving up also. I watch Key, English and Smith on TV and I think where are the rest of them hiding. I am patiently waiting for them to crawl out from under the rock but I know full well it wont happen. I thought no one could dictate more than Helen but how wrong I have been proved to be. Chris

*The ipcc is a flawed political body and should not under any circumsrances be taken into account. John

*I believe that their conclusions are suspect. Patrick

*Excellent open letter, Muriel. Congratulations. Should we hold our breath for his answer? Ross

*I wonder what on earth is really behind this decision to bring in the ETS in the way they are. It just does not make any sense and is a huge worry. It will take NZ in an entirely new direction and cannot possibly be good. Margaret

*How many times do we have to say no. Graeme

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*Last year experts agreed that 2008 was colder worldwide and was this time, caused by the sun. So the Greens are saying: When the earth is cool its the sun's fault and when it get hot it mankinds fault. The motive behind all this, is to impede Western industry. Communists desire this. Gordon

*How many times does the U.N. have to show the world it is an ineffectual joke before people start to take notice. John

*It's flawed. Neil

*The facts are clear the IPCC findings are fraudulent and must not be relied on. Peter

*To rely on information from a single source of information is both stupid and ignorant, or wreaks of some under handed dodgy politics, one wonders who has what to gain by showing such huge disdane and inconsideration for the greater good of the country and making decisions based on un biased facts. Adrian

*We should not commit if evidence is not clear. We could take actions that benefit the economy in the meantime. Douglas

*The whole thing is a lot of hocus pocus. Barbara

*The IPCC is driven by politics NOT science. Don

*Overpaid bureaucrats striving to retain their false incomes. Rob

*The evidence is tainted by bias and error; any use of it will produce foolish decisions. Bruce

*They are biased. Bronwyn

*Biggest mistake that this so called National Government could make! Duncan

*How can we stop the Government from going ahead with this??? I for one guarantee I will never vote for National again. Alan

*This is a serious business. We need the Minister to front up and to back up his values as an opposition member. What changed his mind or dare I ask what UN pressures has changed his resolve. Ed

*I am not convinced government policies will make the slighest change to our weather and the result will be to empty our pockets. Forbes

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*Let nature take its course. We are destroying the planet by raping its enviroment, forests, sea (Fish)etc. Rawiri

*No,no and no again. When will they look at earth's history and see the reality. I am so disappointed with the National Government. Jo

*I totally support what you have said in your open letter to the minister. Graham

*Definitely not. Neil

*The IPCC is a political body not a scientific one and therefore has no credibility to make scientific claims. Grahame

*Of course they shouldn't - it's been discredited totally. However, they will because they have been hijacked by the idiots and now are ventriloquists mothing the demented sayings of the green activists and the greedy entrepreneurs who will make a fortune by ripping off the people of this country. Also the UN (via Saint Helen) will be putting on the pressure to allow them to become the ofical government of this country - goodbye NZ - hello UNNZ. Our independance has gone folks! Grant

*We witnessed the left move into the "Green" movement some decades back. I recall a former Minister of Education, Les Gander, a consummate know it all loose his seat over Education issues. Few wanted or supported his position in his electorate. Out he went but the establishment looks after their own. His consolation prize was London after losing a "safe" seat. Then we had Hugh Templeton still remembered as the only enlightened one on Manapouri ( We knew he was right as how could a Rhodes Scholar get it wrong? ) and his wife, the power behind the flower assist him loosing his seat in Awarua and then later an other blue ribbon and one bestowed upon him. Hugh knew it all. All he and John Chewings had to do was buck the Dictator in Chief at the time and vote against raising Manapouri. Both would have held there seats on that issue alone. Dr Smith might want to reconsider this hasty push to serve up to New Zealanders a fabrication from the left. That it is coming from National makes it even more difficult to swallow. Still with the warmer climes in his electorate his constituents will not suffer the increased costs like those, say in Invercargill. His seat will be safe. I have a few thoughts as to why the push. A view it will resonate with enough voters to make National at least a two term Govt. Anticipated nonsense on the size of our carbon print just getting our exports to markets overseas? Preempt the looney left. Well we have all witnessed hands caught in the cookie jar over MP allowances. A floating of a "capital gains tax" by a double Dipton dipper so an alignment with a Benighted Nations comes as no surprise. Rank and file will pay the price but then they always do. Alan

*The 'climate change' farce is a complete distraction from the fact that as a species we MUST clean up the way we treat the ENVIRONMENT around us but the internal workings of the planet are beyond our control. Ian

*It's unbelievable, that we are letting the UN become the unelected socialist Govt.of the western world. Robert

*Can this open letter be published in the Press? Or won't the Press here accept it as something it should publish? David

*I want to ask is the IPCC in control of our Govt as they seem to be doing all that the IPCC is asking with scant regard to the wishes of the people. Russell

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*As I have posted previousely, as have many others, it is a scam. The UN was founded by 2 communists, their agenda for 60 years has been to have a one world socialist government. MikeW

*I'm waiting for it to warm up, been long cold winter. Margaret

*While I agree entirely with your letter, and the stance against AGW and climate change catastrophe, you really do need to understand the really scary driver for this golbal con job. It's about power, and control over the masses as we move from a supply side surplus to a demand side deficit global economy in such somewhat important things as oil, energy in general, minerals, metals, and of course water and food. Simply put, by imposing a massive tax on carbon and therefore on rich economies (who can afford to pay), the powerful can continue in their quest to grow their wealth and so control more of these precious commodities. By controlling those, they will effectively control mankind. Without this scare story, and all the leemings who blindly believe, what other vehicle would they have to establish such a level of control? A control necessary when the sh*t hits the fan and we staryt to fight over scarce resources. Better to force the switches that a carbon cost will impose, than leave it to the point where we all 'get it', and turn this world into chaos. Pete

*Genuine scientific data, peer reviewed and accepted, should be used for such a drastic move as forming national policy. The IPCC evidence is flawed and the IPCC has some of these scientists in its pocket. Gavin

*But lets face it National politicians are more left wing than Labour/ or perhaps more Luddite than Labour? so why would they change their beliefs just because people who are unblinkered express their views? Chris

*I cannot believe this government is being misled by the IPCC in continuing to believe the flawed and inaccurate data that has been produced. Considering the earth needs CO2 to survive are the deluded idiots forgetting about history and fact versus fiction and hysteria. Sharon

*There is no benefit in NZ being 1st other than laughing stock of the world. Martin

*It has been proved to be unreliable and at times, blatantly false. Allan

*As your letter shjows the IPCC scientists have been serving the political elites in a self serving and corrupt way. They should be disbanded. Peter

*Any information that has the UN as it's source is very questionable. Ronmac

*Who is driving this insane roller-coaster ride to economic disaster for NZ? Leaders of the National Party appear to be pawns in a game of high stakes. Who is behind it? Keith

*If this proposed ETS Bill becomes law and government policy in New Zealand I will not vote National in the next General Election. This would bankrupt our economy and impoverish all New Zealanders for the forseeable future. We cannot support a National-led government in that situation. Robin

*I really cannot add any more than that what has already been stated. Except to say that ministers need more accountablility than what they currently have. John

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*This is ludicrous, we should wait until December at least. Peter

*IPCC have lost their credibility. David

*This is very one-sided. A much wider base of evidence should be taken into consideration. EJ

*The IPCC (UN) are in this for what they can screw out of the gullible Govt. and we will pay dearly for their stupidity. Why do the people of Nelson keep voting for this idiot MP Nick Smith? How do we stop Key & Co from forcing this on us, on top of all the increases in ACC etc that have been announced today. Do they think we are all millionaires like them? This ETS is based on outright lies and the Govt were not votedf in to land the voters with this costly rubbish. Maybe it's just another politicians rort on our pockets. I am angry and frustrated and will not vote for this mob again. Carolyn

This week's poll asks:

Should the NZ Government rely on evidence provided by the IPCC as a basis for domestic
policy-making?

*It's junk science - more politics that science. Our politicians are taking the easy way out by relying on it. Peter

*Governments should never rely on organisations like the UN for their policies - they are lefties with alterior motives and agendas! Shame on National for swallowing it all hook line and sinker! Sue

*This whole fiasco reflects really badly on the government's so-called science advisers. What are they, scientists or puppets for the IPCC? Tim

*The government should not be introducing an emissions trading bill at all. It will do nothing for the climate but be an enormous impediment on the economy. Nick Smith should be removed from his climate portfolio before he can do any more damage. Jo

*Most people I know think this whole global warming scare is just a scam and they have no respect at all for the IPCC. How this government can be stupid enough to trust them is beyond me. They must be a pack of zombies! Walter