*This Lemon must be burried! Alan
*No absolutely not. The IPCC"s lies and false propaganda will eventually come home to roost as it did for Hitler's Nazis. Unfortunately thanks to our gullible politicians we will pay a very high price economically! Bruce
*No, they only seem to provide what they want you to see...and its all to support their theories anyway. Audrey
*The problem New Zealand has now with the impending ETS, is the Emperor Has No Clothes effect, i.e that the people in charge don't want to look stupid now that everything they stake their reputation on is proven to be false. Nick Smith isn't an idiot so he should do all he can to delay a decision on the ETS until the science proves beyond a doubt that there is such a thing as human made global warming. Bill
*Emphatically, absolutely 200% resoundingly NOOOOOO. Jacky
*I am appalled and amazed at the rise of the new false religion espoused by anthropogenic global warming apostles. As a geologist and mineral economist I was equally astonished by the way the general public and politicians were hoodwinked by the "Club of Rome" advocates in the 1960's who also forecast armageddon as the world ran out of resources. The global warming nutters of today threaten the very fabric of society with their clamour to ban plant food (read CO2). I would not be at all suprised that, when the Facts on global warming finally emerge to drown their cries they will all be mataphorically burned at the stake. Hurry on that day! Peter
*The IPCC is a self serving body with it's snout in a very nutritious trough. Lee
*This subject has become a religion - you BELIEVE or don't believe. Science isn't even considered. It's all to do with emotive claptrap. Chris
*How are we ever going to change the direction this country is going in. The ETS is the dumbest thing this govt has done. John
*As I have posted previousely, as have many others, it is a scam. The UN was founded by 2 communists, their agenda for 60 years has been to have a one world socialist government. Mike
*Obviously the politians that vote for this horrendus assult upon the NZ ecomony have private funds stashed way off shore, because the ETS will be the ruin of this country. Relying upon the IPCC for an impartial opinion is sort of asking the thief what type of safe to install to safeguard the family jewels. Wendy
*The facts clearly speak for them selves! Shane
*It is quite obvious (to me) that the government is being swayed by the masses who have been brain washed by the media and the "so called" climate change authorities _ Keshia Castle Hughes, Lucy Lawless to name two!! Instead of actually researching proper science this government is committing us to economic suicide with there ETS stance! Dianna
*Definitely not. For them it's all about politics and control and nothing about science!! I'm so disappointed in Nick Smith. In 2005 he was saying the complete opposite of what he is now saying. Congratulations Muriel on an excellent open letter. We need more of them and I hope all of those in relevant prominent positions have received a personal copy. Helen
*But then again, I doubt the ETS has much to do with saving the planet. I believe the Govt is doing this to increase tax revenue. Voters will be far more forginving of a tax hike to save the planet than a straight increase in income tax. I predict we will see more and more increases in indirect and hidden taxes over the coming years. With an ageing population the Govt will see income tax revenue decrease and stay fairly static, whereas indirect taxes and GST have to be paid by everyone whether they are working or not. Gary
*The IPCC is effectively a Left-wing political body masquerading as the purveyor of scientific “truth”. Regrettably, there is no science that supports AGW - even Nature appears to be actively working again the hypothesis. It beggars belief that a relatively Right-wing ( supposedly ) government is doing their work for them! Dave
*This is too big an issue to rush through, what is the hurry to make push through this legislation? I cannot understand the haste all our politicians all parties, have to pass on the cost in dollar terms to New Zealanders of what will be in world terms an insignificant amount towards the so called man made global warming. Perhaps the government should provide our state owned television companies with funds to put to the forward to the general public all of the facts, both for and against on global warming and then let the public decide. Politicians are wrong big time on too many occasions. Robert
*The UK and Europe have blindly accepted the IPCC report on climate change and are using the fear to restrict trade in many ways. I'm sure there is no need for NZ to rush into an ETS but Nick Smith has been captured by the Green lobby and John Key takes the line of least resistance! Irvine
*UN and related bodies have been shown to distort facts and outright lie to further their own aims. To base our country's future on their "research" is criminal. Bernie
*The IPPC is a crock of shit. Those who believe it haven't done their homework so are uneducated imbeciles. It flies in the face of true scientific research and documented history. The IPPC have a political agenda. You cannot tax a natural phenomenon, the "fart tax" illustrated that. Davis
*Provided that it uses commonsense and evaluates all other available info to make decisions in the interest of first our islands, the Pacific and then globally. We get carried away in the analysis by either preconceptions or political expediencies, instead of looking after our own interests and responsibilities first. Franz
*Thank-you for the great work you are doing Muriel. If the Government wishes to maintain its credibility it can not use the IPCC's data, as the IPCC has been exposed as a criminal organization, running a scam.
eg: IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming http://www.prisonplanet.com/ipcc-scient ... rming.html
& Eight Studies Used by IPCC to Support AGW, have been shown to be fraudulent:http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephill ... -ctd.thtml
*Absolutely NOT! That was an excellent article showing the origins of the corrupted data and how that when the correct data is properly extended back a few millenia then the current temperatures are not unusual. What is unusual is the levels of pollution we put into our environment. Pollutions which have no bearing on "so-called global warming" but directly relate to our health and modern diseases. That is the area we should be focussing on. Walter
*Handel's Messiah has a refrain Make us like sheep" - how appropriate in NZ!
*Absolutely not. Such action by Nick Smith ETS Bill must be regarded as treasonous and he should be removed from Parliament and barred from holding any public office ever again. He is deranged. Let him use his own life to demonstrate how we can all reduce pollution. Forget about methane and carbon dioxide. They are part of our natural environment and are both perfectly normal content of our atmosphere. Nick Smith ... get out of my life!!! Dianna
*"This is the excellent foppery of the world, that, when we are sick of fortune,--we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and the stars: as if we were villains by necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion” - "King Lear", Act 1 Scene 11. Brian
*When will everyone wake up and realise that this has nothing to do with either climate or science. This is part of a bid to systematically change the way that the world works. Wayne Mapp openly supports World Government through the UN and has since his days at Oxford University when he drank deep of the socialist Kool-ade. From his own lips he stated that in his estimation 50% of the national Caucus supports UN sponsored One World activities. Even more startlingly he claims that 66% of Cabinet Ministers think likewise. It beggars plain that the socialist left has captured a major faction within the National Party and nobody should be surprised that we now have the option of voting for a socialist Labour Party or a socialist - lite National Party. How has NZ come to this point you may ask? Well 40 years of scheming, lobbying and 'education' has seen the left all powerful. Only now are the underground left beginning to unmask and seize the levers of power by crushing all opposition. NZ is in serious trouble politically as a rampant left marginalizes its opponents and rams through its policies. The solution is a grassroots political revolution that actively opposes covert socialist National and ACT politicians during the selection process prior to the next election. That and the overhaul of the whole rotten electoral system! Peter
*The UN and the IPCC declared carbon dioxide a "toxin". Before they inflict their abject stupidity, perhaps each and everyone of them along with the sandal-brigade (tree huggers) can stop breathing so the rest of us pragmatists can get on with a life of reduced emissions and no more hot air from these oxygen thieves. But, all said and done, Key does not have the bollocks to do what is necessary so ETS will go ahead and Key, Smith and their mates Unleavened-bread-Sharples, Luddite-Locke et al will get to take EVEN MORE TAX off the real working New Zealanders. Welcome to the 4th World! Mark
*Definitely not. There is absolutely no logic for introducing an ETS or any other sort of dead-weight impost on the economy, other than to cynically keep NZ in favour (or at least not out of favour) with our export markets. We need this as a holding strategy until this whole climate change nonsense is exposed for the scam that it is. David
*The following is a letter written by me to my MP, John Key, which was redirected to Dr Nick Smith:
Hi John, (quickly heading toward being a one term wonder)
I wonder if you are really listening to what NZers are saying and how they/we disagree with the “global warming” ETS path you are taking this country towards.
I agree with Vaclav Klaus:
“The current Global Warming Debate is not about temperature or CO2 levels. It is an ideological clash between those who want to change us (rather than the climate) and those who believe in freedom, markets, human ingenuity, and technical progress. The advocates of global warming alarmism ask for an almost unprecedented expansion of government intrusion, of government intervention into our lives and of government control over us. We are pushed into accepting rules about how to live, what to do, how to behave, what to consume, what to eat, how to travel. It is unacceptable.”
Hon Vaclav Klaus, President Czech Republic.
And you can add, “how to discipline our children” to this.
Blindly accepting the UN’s incorrect agenda on so called “global warming” when the science completely disagrees, leads me to call into question the agenda of this government?
The IPCC’s claims about global warming are not based on science, but on data that has been doctored and has been proven invalid.
You do not have the mandate to place New Zealand in the position you seem to be driving us to.
You will destroy the New Zealand economy by going down this destructive ETS (emissions trading scam) path.
The reply was: "The Minister appreciates you keeping him informed and thanks you for taking time to write."
So Minister, time to take your head out of the UN sand and save New Zealand from a DISASTER.