Breaking News: The extreme climate scenario, used by the expert United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to forecast catastrophic climate change has been withdrawn.
The international body responsible for IPCC modelling has now officially declared the extreme RCP8.5 scenario is implausible.
This is the doomsday scenario of a world almost totally dependent on coal, with catastrophic warming of 4 to 6 degrees Celsius by 2100, and sea-levels rising well over one metre, that was adopted by our Ministry for the Environment as “business-as-usual” and applied by government agencies and local councils across the country.
The significance of the IPCC’s decision cannot be over-stated. Leaving aside the hysterical student marches and climate activism over the years, New Zealanders have been burdened by irrational restrictions and penalties based on this totally unrealistic scenario. Some scientists have been sounding the alarm about this modelling for decades, but their voices have been muzzled and their credibility destroyed by a media blinded by irrational bias.
Back in November 2018, an editorial in Stuff, one of the country’s most influential news sites, screamed “Quick! Save the Planet: We must confront climate change.” They claimed the world’s best climate brains – the IPCC – “recently laid out a new best-case scenario” and that “with rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society we might be able to hold global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius over pre-industrial levels.”
They explained: “We’ll feature a wide range of views as part of this project, but we won’t include climate change ‘scepticism’. Including denialism wouldn’t be ‘balanced’; it’d be a dangerous waste of time. The experts have debunked denialism, so now we’ll move on…
“Stuff accepts the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by human activity. We welcome robust debate about the appropriate response to climate change, but do not intend to provide a venue for denialism. That applies equally to the stories we will publish… and to reader comments.”
And with that, Stuff shut the door on any debate over the legitimacy of the UN’s new climate measures.
Unfortunately, since most other legacy media followed suit, for the last eight years, instead of informing the public, news outlets have reinforced a catastrophist storyline of unabated climate alarmism not only creating anxiety across society especially in children, but in facilitating the introduction – without any scrutiny – of a raft of apocalyptic-style policy changes that have had a devastating impact on New Zealand.
Before we look into this in more detail, we need to understand what the UN’s scenarios were, and why they are now being withdrawn.
Four Representative Concentration Pathways (RCPs) were developed more than a decade ago after the IPCC recognised the need for standardised scenarios to serve as consistent inputs for global climate modelling. Rather than creating the scenarios itself, the IPCC invited the broader scientific community to produce some that could be used in its Fifth Assessment Report, AR5.
Four independent modelling teams created pathways that projected future atmospheric carbon dioxide levels and the resulting “radiative forcing” – a measure of the change in the Earth’s energy balance caused by greenhouse gases – expressed in watts per square metre by the year 2100, relative to pre-industrial times.
The IMAGE group in the Netherlands developed RCP2.6, a low-emissions “best-case” scenario with a radiative forcing of 2.6 watts per square metre by 2100.
The GCAM team in the United States produced RCP4.5 and Japan’s NIES created RCP6.0, which were moderate, middle-of-the-road scenarios.
Austria’s IIASA produced the notorious RCP8.5 scenario — an extreme and deliberately alarming vision of the future dominated by coal. In this pathway, coal remains the primary energy source for electricity and, converted into liquid, for transportation. The scenario assumes explosive global population growth, surging economic expansion, and virtually no climate policies whatsoever. It was designed purely to test the outer limits of climate sensitivity — not as a plausible or likely future.
Yet for more than a decade, this highly unrealistic worst-case scenario – RCP8.5 and its later iteration Shared Socioeconomic Pathway SSP5-8.5 – was treated by officials, politicians, and activists as the default “business as usual” pathway, since, when they fed it into climate models, the catastrophic outcomes demanded urgent action: “cut emissions or the planet is doomed”.
For these reasons it has underpinned media commentary generating sensational headlines that created terrifying “news” that boosted ratings. It was eagerly adopted by climate researchers, since its dramatic results led to more publications, contracts and funding. And it was embraced by politicians looking for relevance from a crisis that only they could solve.
Government agencies followed suit. NIWA and the Ministry for the Environment incorporated RCP8.5 into their sea-level rise guidance, treating its extreme predictions of melting ice sheets producing alarming sea-level rise as core central planning assumptions.
Local Government, encouraged to treat these dramatic projections as the baseline for decision-making, introduced strict new building restrictions. Instead of focusing on strengthening sea walls, improving drainage, and investing in practical resilience measures, councils are now considering “managed retreat” to relocate entire communities.
Families who have lived on the coast for generations are being told their homes are effectively “stranded assets” – not because of observed sea-level trends, but because of the predictions of a scenario that was never intended to guide real-world policy.
Insurance companies embraced these developments by increasing premiums in areas deemed “high risk” under RCP8.5 projections that will never eventuate.
And when the UN convened the Net-Zero Banking Alliance, armed with RCP8.5 modelling, major New Zealand banks joined in, committing to decarbonising their books by tightening lending to “high-emission” sectors such as dairy, sheep and beef, and oil and gas, while also restricting finance to coastal and flood-prone properties.
RCP8.5 was central – of course – to the justification for New Zealand’s Net Zero 2050 policy. By using this extreme scenario to depict catastrophic warming and disaster if nothing changed, the Climate Change Commission created the political and emotional urgency needed to push through aggressive Net Zero targets and ever-higher carbon charges.
This seriously distorted New Zealand’s electricity market, as the rising cost of carbon on the gas and coal used as backup thermal generation to maintain security of supply when the lakes are low, the wind doesn’t blow, and the sun doesn’t shine, significantly inflated the price of power.
The Emissions Trading Scheme alone now adds over $200 a year onto the average power bill though carbon levies that are expected to increase further as the Net Zero agenda unfolds.
It’s a similar story with fuel: with a policy framework based on these now-discredited extreme scenarios, the ETS carbon levy at the pump has been over 20 cents a litre – but now sits around 10 cents per litre.
New Zealand’s trade position has also been affected. Terrified of being labelled climate laggards and losing market access, successive New Zealand governments have used the urgency created by RCP8.5 to justify aggressive Net Zero policies – turning climate virtue-signalling into a de facto trade compliance issue at significant cost to our economy.
But now, in a development of enormous significance, the international body responsible for developing the scenarios that underpin all IPCC reports has finally admitted what critics have been arguing for years: the extreme RCP8.5 pathway is not credible in climate modelling.
The ScenarioMIP group – which is responsible for the IPCC’s modelling framework – has eliminated RCP8.5, SSP5‑8.5, and SSP3‑7.0 from the next generation of scenarios. In a just-published paper introducing the new scenario framework that will be used by the IPCC in their Seventh Assessment Report – they determined that the high-end emissions levels previously used by the IPCC “have become implausible”.
This is no minor adjustment – it is an historic shift. The very body tasked with developing the official scenarios for the IPCC has now admitted that the extreme RCP8.5 and SSP5-8.5 pathways – which have underpinned climate alarmism, media headlines, and government policy for over a decade – are no longer plausible.
This week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator Professor Roger Pielke of Colorado University, a leading critic of RCP 8.5 extremism, outlines this historic change:
“The international committee responsible for the official scenarios that feed into climate modelling that are the basis for most projective climate research and the assessments of the IPCC has just published the next generation of climate scenarios.
“Big news: The new framework has eliminated the most extreme scenarios that have dominated climate research over much of the past several decades — specifically, RCP8.5. This is an absolutely huge development in climate science which will have lasting impacts across research and policy.
“The group with official responsibility for developing climate scenarios for the IPCC and broader research community has now admitted that the scenarios that have dominated climate research, assessment, and policy are implausible: They describe impossible futures.
“This means that users of climate models based on legacy scenarios will now face decisions about if and how they’d like to realign with the latest scientific understandings versus continuing to rely on outdated research.”
What is most disturbing is the refusal of New Zealand’s mainstream media to report on this groundbreaking development.
In comparison, it made front page news in the Netherlands, with the headline “UN Climate Panel Drops Doomsday Scenario” and was covered in both Germany and Switzerland.
But as Professor Pielke explains, it is what happens next that is of major concern.
With New Zealand institutions including State sector agencies, local government, NIWA, the Ministry for the Environment, the banking, insurance, and electricity sectors, along with much of the media, having embedded RCP8.5 in their policy framework, unwinding all of this will not be easy
That means the Government will need to take a lead by issuing a directive halting all decision‑making that relies on RCP8.5 or any of its derivatives. No council should restrict land use, no agency should issue guidance, no insurer should classify risk, and no bank should adjust lending criteria based on a scenario that the international scientific community has now rejected.
Furthermore, the Government must establish an urgent, comprehensive, and fully independent review to ascertain just how far the influence of RCP8.5 has spread.
These actions are essential, but they are only the beginning.
NIWA and the Ministry for the Environment should be instructed to withdraw all guidance that embeds extreme scenarios as central assumptions, with a view to replacing them with realistic scenarios, once they have been developed.
Perhaps it is also time to consider a statutory mechanism to assess any advice from international agencies that’s to be used to guide domestic policy with the mandatory disclosure of the assumptions that underpin it, so it’s available for public scrutiny before it can create damage.
What is very clear is that New Zealand can no longer justify basing major national policies on a scenario that has now been formally rejected by the very international body whose advice underpinned our entire climate agenda. A full and immediate political reset is essential – one that removes these flawed “implausible” assumptions RCP 8.5 and SSP5-8.5 before they inflict even more damage on New Zealand households and businesses.
Continuing to base New Zealand law, council rules, insurance requirements, and taxpayer-funded decisions on projections that assume a coal-powered dystopia that could never materialise is not just poor governance, it is reckless and indefensible.
Every day these discredited scenarios remain in use, more unnecessary damage is inflicted: communities are being threatened with relocation based on imagined sea-level rise, families are facing skyrocketing insurance premiums, property rights are being eroded, and households are paying higher prices for power and fuel. The government must urgently replace these extreme assumptions with realistic scenarios so that policy can be recalibrated before even more avoidable harm is caused.
New Zealanders have endured more than a decade of costly, fear-driven policies built on modelling that was never credible. The time for reckoning has arrived. Anything less than a full and uncompromising correction of this house of cards would be a profound betrayal of the New Zealand public.
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THIS WEEK’S POLL ASKS:
*Should the Government immediately withdraw the discredited RCP8.5 and SSP5-8.5 climate scenarios from all official planning, policy and regulations?
*Poll comments are posted below.
*All NZCPR poll results can be seen in the Archive.
THIS WEEK’S POLL COMMENTS
| Should never have been there. | Wayne |
| YES! N.Z should withdraw from ALL climate scenarios, also from all treaties, all dodgy , no longer revelant bodies that want to control our country and aim to subvert our sovereignity, and demand that we commit to useless war treaties, that demand ‘blood sacrifice’ and commitment, for gennocidal Slavery maniacs that want to continue endless wars, and conflicts!! NO MORE WARS! ALL OF THEM, MUST END NOW!! | David |
| As a matter of urgency. | Brian |
| The answer is yes. However, for obvious reasons, we need to continue working on improving New Zealand’s GW emissions. The Government could help itself by distributing far and wide simple bar charts that show at a glance that we are off such little consequence of any negative GW emission effects, when compared to most of the World’s countries. Especially those countries in the northern hemisphere. Note: all our stormy weather comes down to us from the northern sector. It is not created locally. We need to adapt to this current lot of bad weather. Surely it won’t last for ever at this intensity. | garry |
| We must all understand reality & stop allowing the left leaning media from running & ruining our lives. Think for yourself!! | Geoff |
| Now comes the hard part of unwinding the Climate Change policies that have been introduced by the previous government. There will still be some hard liners who resist like they have done with the introduction of Te Reo | Lawrie |
| Roger Pielke is one of many respectable scientists and climate experts from around the world who have pointed out how totally implausible RCP 8.5 scenario was from the very beginning, yet under the guidance of Adern government in particular the NZ climate change commission chose RCP 8.5 as the cornerstone of its policy plan. Total idiocy in view of the huge amount of actual data which showed it to be totally implausible and incredibly harmful to New Zealanders future. | Ian |
| Yes absolutely! The evidence is in according to the science. | Ray |
| And as stated in the commentary they must issue that directive described to halt the climate change nonsense that is driving high costs for everyone. | Tony |
| About time some common sense was introduced into the debate. | Geoff |
| The Climate ‘Change’ reallots are completely detached from reality now. These regulations have imposed a massive burden on our economy. | Peter |
| Yet make every effort to care for our environment | Jan |
| The EXTREME approach New Zealand adopted from the outset never made sense in the first place -MMP in action! driven by idealogy and captured by zealots | Barry |
| Global warming has always been a scam, a sham and a lie (thanks Al Gore). Carbon dioxide is vital for life. Withdraw from UNIPCC as USA Pres. has done. | Monica |
| What, a wonderful job LYING M.S.M have done to N.Z ! NOW FOR THE BUDGET…. we all know what that means for KIWIS… GOVT. tells us, iT WILL BE A TOUGH LOVE BUDGET…. !!YEAH RIGHT!! We the voting Public, get this every BUDGET ANOUNCEMENT…Ever year…. More for them…Less for US, something very seriously WRONG WITH OUR DEMOCRACY!! IT HAS BECOME SO CORRUPT… | David |
| The climate scam was and is pure evil in its sinister life, yet to be purged by the msm. Is this the beginning of the end for extreme leftist wokeism? Will the light shine thru? Maybe… | Alan |
| The costs over the last 10 years are alarming especially for a country in serious debt | Keith |
| Hell yes, should be a priority!! | John |
| It is a rip off | Rod |
| With urgency | LesW |
| Always was and still is all about money | John |
| Unjustified & at a huge cost to NZ | Derek |
| Absolutely! Nobody has believed RCP8.5 was plausible, but activists hid behind the IPCC silence on the subject. But now, even the Emperor has confessed that he has no clothes | Barry |
| These elevated levels are impacting in insurance, if they are going to be using levels to determine policy, they need to be highly accurate, not speculative or with high unrealistic multipliers added | AARON |
| It was always driven by extreme activists and backed up by left wing media, never debated sensible by the gloom and doom merchants, just screaming hysteria. | Selwyn |
| These eye blind scenarios were never going to work and were sold to gullible bureaucracy’s worldwide who were then held to ransom | Hugh |
| Thank you for reporting on this huge reveal of international quackery. Co2 is heavier than air and it has never been able to defy gravity, despite all those dumb people who are certain that it does. | Andrew |
| lying to the whole world for ever, and we knew it!!! They did it anyway! | Neil |
| It was always an unlikely scenario | Glynis |
| Waking up from mass hysteria | Geoff |
| was always a scam and the woke were always good for a new cause be big ask to see the big step down it will need | david |
| Lets use proven scientific formulas, as for NZ our contribution To gobal emissions is very small and soweithdraw from Paris Accord and lookm after our own backyard. | John |
| High time this scam was put to rest! | TOBY |
| Most definitely! The sooner the better, and with a ‘strong arm attitude’ where refusal to adopt will not be tolerated! It concerns me deeply that it has taken so long for this to be addressed. | J J |
| They just followed the herd, no independent thinking, overreaction from Ardern and company, have been going down the costly path of that overreaction. Turn back now. | Mike |
| Finally some truth and realism instead of alarmist adherence to the climate religion, | Lucy |
| There is not time for face saving; action should be taken promptly and responsibly | Peter |
| Immediately. | Grahame |
| extreme computer based modelling should not be used to implement radical policies | Bryan |
| I am astounded it is still there, remove it now. | Nigel |
| Nature will do what nature does | Nev |
| Planning under this regime has incurred a lot of extra cost for NZ citizens. All aspects must be addressed promptly. | Willy |
| Never agreed with it from the start. | Lyn |
| WE need to stand against this nonsense | Russell |
| It is now time to end the hysterical alarmism promoted by socialism. | Bruce |
| Having Professor Geoff Duffy as a friend and relative and Having sat with Professor Happer When here, this RPC8.5 is scandalous. Heads need to roll over this. | Dave |
| These climate scenarios are clearly no longer creditable. | Chris |
| The Govt. should now take steps or plan to mitigate the effects of climate change and not pursue the line of man-made cause. | Colin |
| I have been studying climate change for over 10 years now and get furious when our Government, ignorant students and radical alarmists force upon us views by so called scientists. There are some realist and knowledgeable scientists whose names are never mentioned yet with a little bit of searching can be found and it is them who should be accepted as real “CLIMATE SCIENTISTS’ and not those who put out the story that suits the day. Good on the Government if they withdraw as stated and also get away from the IPCC and the CRU. | Alan |
| as it gas been formally rejected | Elaine |
| Immediately. It has always been a climate con. A huge waste and transfer of money | Mark |
| As loyal WEF devotees, this government and the next, regardless of who it is, will do exactly what the U.N will tell them to do. The climate scam has been a wonderful tool, used to direct money away from our local economy, which is a major reason why we are in the financial doldrums. Economic collapse of individual nations is vital, when the end goal is Global government. | A.G.R. |
| The absolute rubbish we were fed by the UN and others like Al Gore to name one, was not looked at logically before we were pushed into it. | Gifford |
| Definitely yes and asap. Hysterical and wooly thinking have caused so much worry, costs and hardship. | Anne |
| in the ditch along with the UN who only seem to dish out bad advice | Erin |
| Absolutely. Times up and should have been long ago. | Allan |
| They only had to look at the background of climate change supporters to show it was a Marxist plan to destroy western economies. | Rex |
| Thank you! Pete | Peter |
| Its a scam. Follow the money. | Grant |
| And act with urgency to set an overriding policy statement which states the currently flawed assumptions and policy settings WILL be withdrawn and replaced as a matter of priority .. the background work can then follow this policy statement | Matthew |
| they have used this rubbish to make more money,and peoples lives harder all over a load of fear driven rubbish | rodger |
| Urgent! | Louis |
| Should never bothered going down the road of prevention. Should have always been mitigation. | Steve |
| Anthropogenic climate change is a lie. And it was designed to cause fear to enable control. | Peter |
| It’s a no brainer but then again, the people pushing this extreme climate change agenda seem to have that affliction. | Richard |
| it was always crazy | john |
| This should be done immediately | Tony |
| Plus, get out of the political Paris Agreement that has hastened de-industrialisation of most democracies. As we know the whole campaign was socialist to gain power and came from falsification of C02 fraudulent analysis. In Australia the Liberal Party is hanging onto the Paris Agreement. The latest poll gives them 12 seats in the LH next election. The voter is finally rising above ignorance!!! | Frederick |
| The Biggest scam the world has known | Michael |
| About time | Graeme |
| Immediately for sure | David |
| and legislate for the proper validation of any future modelling to be used as has IPCCs reckless RCP8.5 and associated “junk” | Stan |
| The hoax, scam, rort has been exposed! Govt must act NOW. Get us out of the Paris Accord, Net Zero, Emissions Trading Scheme. NZ must make our own decisions, not International bodies telling us what to do. Spread the word!! MSM won’t. | Carole |
| Absolutely should be rescinded immediately. | Milan |
| A political party that jumps on this right now and declares that we have been hoodwinked, just like we knew we were, will excell in the up coming. | Neil |
| We should only go with authentic and credible backing for policy. | Tony |
| It was a scam from the beginning, the UN has had to remove the most extreme predictions because its been 10 years, we are all still alive & above water so their lies are too obvious now. However they haven’t given up on their global warming scam, rather they are doubling down on it! So yes Luxon get us out of this suicidal global warming scam asap. | John |
| Now. | Pam |
| Absolutely and immediately. This is the biggest and most expensive fraud ever inflicted on humanity by self-serving disingenuous political criminals. | Warren |
| What a debacle. I was always somewhat sceptical. | Philip |
| ASAP | Clyde |
| It was a jackup in the first place, to extract even more money for the people at the top of this game. | william |
| The Government should withdraw from the Paris Agreement and from the increasingly irrelevant UN. There is no climate emergency. | Peter |
| This is the first I have heard of this! Is the govt going to publicly announce an immediate halt to the ridicules policy, until they have a handle on it? | Ian |
| Now | Alison |
| Of course they should , they’re skewed, but the WEF climate loons in Govt want to slober all over the world power goats in charge of it all. | CAROLYN |
| Basing policies that hugely affect so many familes’ security on models that use output from other models that use absurd assumptions just shows how much embedded, unelected ideologues have taken over from rational thinkers. Our public service needs a major purge. | David |
| I never believed the bullshit global warming story from the early 90s | Vaughan |
| Hopefully now common sense will finally prevail. | John |
| What tnhe sane silent majority knew all along the climate change scare was just that. With the means to leech funds from as many countries as possible into the UN to bolster their agendas!! | Karen R |
| Without question!! For goodness’ sake can we all make sure everyone knows about this. | Craig |
| Without doubt, and it is high time the media came clean about the ridiculous position they have taken on all this and told us the truth. | Tim |
| Yes. With all haste. | Denis |
| People should change what can be changed for the better i.e. stop destroying rain forests, protect our sea beds, stop producing non-biodegradable materials etc. As for the world’s climate, that has been changing since the beginning of time and mankind can’t do anything about it! | Mary |
| This article should be a compulsory read for Luxon. Wakey. Wakey! | Rodger |
| AT LAST The Government must TAKE Notice and make urgent Statements to the Media to make Public aware | leo |
| Mindlessly following the narrative has taken too much of a toll for far too long – financially and emotionally | Liz |
| Absolutely!! What a fraud this has all been!!! | Dianne |
| Cannot continue believing a lie | Lynton |
| a lot of us have always considered it bogus and it should be dumped from all policy and education documents as soon as possible! | Steve |
| What is 4 2? 6, but there are a lot on the left that would deny it. | Nic |
| It never made any sense | Roy |
| Climate policies have altered the world’s economic balance. A small and largely insignificant nation at the bottom of the earth, NZ has futilely undermined it’s prosperity just to virtue signal to the world. Guess that’s what you get when the idiots are in charge. | Geoff |
| We have been misled for too long. | Dennis |
| The world’s biggest scam ever designed by elite academies to line their own pockets.Fire them all now from the govt,councils, Universities Cheers Morrie | Morrie |
| I have never agreed with this climate extremism and it has had a severe detrimental effect on such a small farming country as NZ. | jan |
| no advantage to NZ in keeping this scam running any longer | ken |
| what more can you expect from the money-grubbing socialists, to them it’s just another tax. | Merryl |
| Yep. if you look into Aucklands new Plan Change 120 Hazard Classifications, RCP 8.5 is specifically cited in the appendix tables. Im sure that is replicated all over the country. | davidf |
| The sooner the better–but the PM is a climate change disciple, and thus he will not make any move at this time. And the Nats are gutless and so nothing will happen. We will have to rely on ACT to talk about this issue. | William |
| Politicians world wide have been lead by the nose by media alarmism instead of reality fact based science. | Dane |
| For those who apposed this in the first place thank you and for those who thought that this was correct you should have listened to the huge number of scientists that were berated and can now say ‘we told you so’. | Andrew |
| Finally the common sense has arrived after all the damage that has been done. Al Gore made billions on bullshit | Jeremy |
| YES. National get this done ASAP. The speed of your actions show you are dullards or do you have another Global agenda . I think it is time for some honesty in election year. | Noel |
| Donald Trump is way ahead of all New Zealand politicians, He saw this crap for what it was years ago, Love him or hate him — He’s the Man !!! | Gerald |
| It never had any credibilty from the outset | Barry |
| Immediately. The whole thing has been a scam since the start. | Trevor |
| It always was a rort. Only fools or those somehow ‘on the take’ believed in it. Or those officials being blackmailed for some reason. | Bryan |
| A test case for the hollow man, will he make a strong decision for New Zealand ? is he able to ? will he be allowed ?. Don`t hold your breath. For too long the Chicken Licken club have had their way, educated beyond their intelligence ,the sky hasn`t and isn`t falling. The mainstream media criminals have repeatedly demonstrated their allegiance to stupidity ,they are the product of an education system that left out Thinking for yourself ,using critical thinking and not blindly believing everything you are told. NZ is in a mess we are being pulled apart from within (Racism) and without (Globalism) one world government . NZ author Barry Smith had plenty to say on these subjects way back in the 80s in his books Warning and Final warning. Books still available. | Glyn J |
| Was always pie in the sky fear mongering | Felicity |
| The IPCC edict was never supported by proven scientific research. It was a backdoor attempt to discredit the western lifestyle, an attempt driven by Marxist activists. | Bob |
| No comment necessary!! | Ian |
| Of course this should be done now, but I bet it will not happen for a long time. Someone is making a lot of money from this | Roy |
| Absolutely, it should never have been adopted in the first place!! | Robin |
| Yes this is long overdue | Mark |
| The negative impact on productivity in NZ must be urgently addressed. Depowering the Green agenda to ameliorate oppressive coats on the economy. | Graham |
| Has been a total fraud all along designed to weaken the west.China is the greatest polluter of all and how many protesters do we see outside Chinese embassies everyday,ZERO.Doesn’t that tell you something. | Malcolm |
| Computer modellers can get ANY outcome THEY want by putting in the wrong numbers. Napier city council also made this problem with paying BIG for a computer modell. Even NIWA is not able to predict the weather for two days ahead. SO, what are they on about. On top of it: you can NOT regulate the climate with money. Where has all that money gone ?? In rich peoples bancaccounts, is my guess. | Peter |
| Govt should wake up to to new reality, that the climate has and will always change, though in geological time frames, also, that CO2 is not the enemy: it is in fact the lifeblood of all life on Earth! | Dennis |
| Tell this to the Greens | Nelson |
| Obviously! The climate alarmism has been absurd since the start and now we have additional scientific confirmation of that fact. | Marla |
| The climatists won’t like this, they will all be out of a job | James |
| Yes indeed. ASAP | Ray |
| yes it is a waste of money, climate has been happing for thousands of years it goes in cycles. | Barry |
| I have never believed in the Global Warming Scam, all these years, NEVER! And the cost to this country has been massive, we will never retrieve those costs! | Valerie |
| All race-based laws or customs should be rpealed | Perce |
| And it should have been looked into properly when it first was announced. Shame on James Shaw and the Climate Commission. | maurice |
| and wind back the clock to when these stupid regs came into being | William |
| Are we at last seeing some sensibility taking shape. The calculation for for measuring co2 emissions has been revisited and found wanting. The argument has been raised before that the major contributors of harmful emissions are the major industrial nations who, have openly stated that they will act on this issue sometime in the future. NZ has extremely low emissions and frankly should, in light of this new information, withdraw from the Paris Agreement and concentrate on looking to improve its own performance rather than be dictated to from abroad and the UN. Unfortunately Simon Watts would rather remain part of the Paris Agreement at all costs. The bottom line is that the cost to our fragile economy is simply unwarranted. The net result is that our legislation should reflect this and perhaps Watts should stand for the Green party. | Chris |
| It is just a political farce to make money. | David |
| Climate Change Policy is unaffordable is the simple explanation. | Neville |
| Mostly definitely YES. Followed by strict directives to local/regional councils and all government agencies that all reference to this grand hoax must be removed immediately from all bylaws, regulations, websites, and other means of spreading false propaganda. As for the media, I know we cannot expect such scum to suddenly grow a spine and to report the truth of this great hoax. Thank you NZCPR for informing Kiwis. I can no longer read messages of truth on Facebook, as that scum organisation has permanently banished me for daring to share post, such as from NZCPR (cancel culture is alive and thriving). | Colin |
| That climate scenario always seemed fanciful, this coalition government needs to satisfy itself of this situation, announce it loudly, then pass legislation rescinding status quo | Donald |
| It was a mistake that our laws were ever based on this doubtful science. | Patricia |
| Should be withdrawn asap | Jan |
| At last the truth is out! | Stuart |
| it has already caused too much damage | paddy |
| an absolute no brainer – RCP/SSP5-8.5 has been talked about as being “implausible” for quite some time now even within the IPCC. Now its getting more traction with them finally removing it. Every Government department, council and private business still pushing this extreme modelling needs to stop now and rework all their alarmist predictions. | Isabelle |
| It was a rort by a group of unemployed, disgruntled scientists who were wanting to get their hands on easy money from governments around the world and there were enough nitwits who believed them to the detriment of many. | Jacqui |
| Absolutely. | Kevin |
| build a new coal powered power station and save us all a lot of money on power bills.! | greg |
| I always maintained this was absolute B.S. However have the Government got the gonads to reverse all these dumb decisions | Errol |
| Definitely | Mike |
| Immediately and publicise it. | Pam |
| Luxon and Hipkins are both such climate change extremists I can’t see change happening any time soon. | Lee |
| Never believed in it anyway! At last the International body has seen sense and admitted it was wrong! | Mary |
| Gather the whole sorry mess into a tidy bundle, dump it on to the laps of the IPCC and UN and demand a refund. Then tell ’em where to shove it! | Scott |
| The best news I have heard for quite some time! So I wonder how long it will take for our local institutions to abolish these fraudulent, fake climate scenarios which has been known for decades, but disputed by the IPCC & those people like Al Gore who became a Billionaire promoting this false narrative as he swanned around the globe lecturing all this climate shite! I must put a mark in my calendar/diary to see just how long these twats at Local & Central Govt actually make vital, necessary changes before they do any further damage…? Well…What a wonderful item for political parties, especially ACT & NZ First to use as a ‘promise’ on the campaign trail to change this nonsense back to the common sense that ought to have raised ‘Red Flags’ right from the beginning when these unfounded ideas were first muted…? I wait with ‘baited breath’ to see all these bureacrats ‘eat humble pie’ while having ‘egg all over their faces’ how long it will take for them to admit their mistake, apologise & proceed to drop all aspects of this ‘climate change bollocks’…it will be interesting to watch & see…in fact a Referendum might just be a useful way to draw the average sleepy numpties in NZ who have been hooked by the IPCC & MSM propaganda as they continued to drink the “KOOL AID” while watching the 6.00pm News Channels promoting Govt Propaganda…it will be fascinating…! | Bruza |
| Absolutley | Bruce |
| Climate hysteria has to stop. | Ross |
| It has always been a mechanism to extract funds to support lazy people who do not question everything (nillius in verba). | Rob |
| Of course they should, it should have never been used. Any losses dues to these flawed scenarios should be paid. | David |
| ASAP! | Lee |
| not only the govt but all of the regional councils around NEW ZEALAND should get rid of this panic bullshit that was forced on us by so called experts who climbed on the band wagon of lies put out by the media and the most destructive mob called the greens known the whole world over as woke and lairs.but national with the likes of key and luxon then liebor with adern and her arse lickers really screwed this country with their lies and corruption, should allbe charged with treason of what they allowed this climate crap to be forced on us. | Richard |
| looks like the UN is not backing don on this issue | Roseanne |
| It seems almost everyone agrees that the Paris accord Climate Change agenda has now been reported to be another enormous political trick gamed on the population! And I recall when our now PM Luxon ‘advised’ Maureen Pugh “Climate Change scenario is settled”. Maureen Pugh’s comment t othe PM was “I need to do more research before I would comment on Climate Change.” When will the PM make a public apology to Maureen Pugh ? Or will the PM continue down his determined path and make no comment? I wrote to the PM at that time agreeing with Maureen Pugh whence I received a 2000 page emailed epistle from the PM on ‘settled’ Climate Change modelling!! It will be interesting to see If the PM can moves his thinking to the now widely accepted model? IF he doesn’t update himself on this weather scenario, one can but wonder what planet he is on? Can he even debate this subject which has cost SO MANY people many dollars fighting this bureaucracy. How bizarre!! | Stuart |
| Absolutely ridiculous policies! Why has this taken so long to change? | John |
| NetZero adherence is causing the cost of energy in New Zealand to sky-rocket. We must scrap the Paris agreement immediately. | AndyE |
| Government and local news (TV and News papers) Have taken years of denying the truth for well read people. When will they ever learn? Maybe shut down Universitys and main scream! media. To the general public. Please read any scientific book about the history of climate change by inteligent people who are not paid by Government Departments, university (Teachers?) or U.N. control freaks. | Stu |
| My assessment for New Zealand is made on the basis of what our re emissions are on relation to that of the three major poluters, being India, China and the USA. It is totally pointless for our country to try and “save” the world when these three other countries have no intention of curtailing their emissions. | Peter |
| There should be immediate official censure of media organizations that refused to offer balanced reporting thereby creating unnecessary alarms and fear in a. Vulnerable population, particularly innocent school children, made the unwitting pawns of climate change fanatics | Peter |
| All these models are based on assumptions that may never come to pass. Sure the climate is changing aand there are 2 factors involved 1. the natural processes that occur as a rsult of the make-up of a dynamic planet earth. 2. man’s intereference in the weather (geo-engineering) and the pollutiondue to throwing out as refuse unwanted materials. Carbon dioxide is not the issue. If there was more CO2 there would be more food produced by plants ans that is what they do – they use CO2 in the process of photosynthesis to produce oxygen(O2 that animals need for respiration) and foods such as carbohyrates found in fruit and vegetables. Now consider this : with more CO2 we could have better and bigger forests and food production – now the question one needs to consider is:”on a hot summers day is it hotter or cooler in the shade when in the bush/forest.? One would suggest and know it is cooler in the shaed. With the absorption and use of enrgy from the sun that planet would more likely be cooler than hotter would it not?. So CO2 is a climate change gas but for the better not for the worse. Think about it and stop swallowing the garbage. Another question to answer: “Why do some growers using greenhouse to grow their crops inject CO2 into their greenhouses? Answer: To get better plant growth and therefore better crop yields. | Kevin |
| And force insurance companies and local councils to fall in line immediately! | Jan |
| Professor Pielke suggests we revert to realistic policies. That would be that it’s the ultimate in human arrogance to think we can affect the planet’s climate, and accept the climate has always changed from time immemorial… | Noel |
| Immediately!! | Heather |
| Yes !!! | Murray |
| The Climate Extremism is based on incorrect information so cannot be used to determine planning policies. | Chris |
| Absolutely – and now need to get on and reverse decisions based on this false premise., | Jenny |
| Withdraw or Resign | Roger |
| Just for once, do it now. | Geoff |
| This was debunked an awful long time ago. Can’t believe its still in circulation | David |
| Luxon still trapped by his allegiance to the WEF | chris |
| The quicker the better. I don’t how things got so distorted so quickly. | Sue |
| It has been the biggest con job from the very beginning. Have never understood why so many so called learned people went along with it. Another case of the “emperor’s new clothes” methinks | Bev |
| This whole Climate Narative/Scenario was based on Fake Modeling. If we do the elementary School Science on Climate, we actually can not live without Carbon Dioxide !! | Geoff |
| Based upon evidence, many of us have for some years been questioning this extreme scenario. Government must take the lead, and immediately. | Meg |
| It needs to be done urgently to save our economy from extravagant waste of resources that can be redeployed to increase our abysmally low productivity. It should also propel the exploitation of the massive reservoirs of gas and oil within our economic zone | Graeme |
| It was known to be a scam more than 4 years ago. Current govt should have acted on this within the first 100 days of being elected. | Peter |
| The RCP8.5 ruling has been one of the countries most costly and useless exercises and now the Coilition Govt must take every possible step to remove ASAP. | Ross |
| C02 is plant food,and has no effect whatsoever on climate change! | Derek |
| Cancel net zero now | RICHard |
| The govt should make it loud and clear with all tv stations and newspaper made to make it headline news .further more NIWA and all other scientists made to change their ways or face the sack | Harvey |
| Yes They must do this with urgency’, so that Households & Businessess can be relieved of those costs that were imposed under RCP8.5 | Peter |
| Does anyone really believe that any of our major political parties will act on this “new’ information? | John |
| They should never have been introduced in the first place. God is the only one who has control over these things. It’s absolute arrogance to claim human influence. | Gavin |
| The problem is, of course, how to get it into the blinded eyes and heads of the ‘believers”, that they are now, discredited and that they are to rethink their approach. Good luck with that, whomever the government may be. | Martyn |
| Also, international ratings agencies have been incorporating implausible climate change risk in their ratings, which have presumably caused higher interest rates for borrowers incl for the Govt. | Vic |
| About time this political scam was sorted. Any half intelligent human should know that it is not possible to control or change NATURE | Denise |
| Remove these implausible assumptiions before they inflict more damage on NZ households &businesses RCB. | Ronald |
| in all those models, never once has ‘the forcing’ has never been proven in any way. | Collin |
| 100% withdrawal required | NOEL |
| Should NEVER Have Happened in the First Place !The news media World wide has a lot to answer for especially STUFF. | Frank |
| having lived by the sea for over 70 years i have seen neap tides, Spring tides, King ides with low pressure events and strong winds alter he level of ‘top’ of the tide it is very difficult to see the ‘real’ sea level . now add into that parts of the east coast has been rising due to the movement of the earths crust! How on earth can anybocy say the sea is rising with a straight face? | Mark |
| This has been around for a long time…shame the media is so destructive in out look…..they and NIWA should bow their heads in shame | Mark |
| It has been scientifically proven that climate change is a myth. The government should immediately withdraw from the Paris Accord | Chris |
| Anyone with any common sense knew this climate agenda was just a scam. We are also very aware that the elevated costs incurred from this scam will take forever to return to normal. | Mark |
| long overdue mistake by others in power | Roy |
| Of course! Would be good if they admitted they’ve been wrong too, but do we think their ego’s will let them? Hmmm… | Sue |
| Should have been withdrawn years ago! | Albert |
| Absolutely, as it’s well overdue that the climate scam has gone on far too long. | James |
| As Convenor of the South Dunedin Stormwater Justice Group and the Surrey St Flood Action Group we have been battling the DCC and ORC for years over our suburb repeated flooding not by climate change but by old undersized water infrastructure and pumping stations. They introduced a climate change program called South Dunedin Futures which became the poster child for green academics and scientists across NZ to show how other councils could cope with stormwater from climate change which was in fact the same situation as ours, aged infrastructure no one wanted to pay to fix. We have spent 18 months with two water engineers investigating every single rainfall event, every cubic metre of piping and pumping station capacity in the area and have now a detailed scientific record that will stand up in any court that the councils are guilty of flooding peoples homes and industry causing serious damage and health problems. We have presented to the ombudsman and will go further to expose this across NZ. Contact me if you need further information | Lynne |
| But the cash take will flow on | Ken |
| All major national climate policies must be reset immediately. | Ernest |
| Stop wasting our money. | tony |
| All that is needed is to look at history. When have any of the IPCC (Al Gore) predictions come to fruition. NEVER. The climate has always changed and that will never stop. Man has such a miniscule impact on it that it can be ignored. some basic facts are that man’s contribution to all this is like one spectator at a full Eden Park trying to influence the result. If as David Seymore says that we need to protect our trade than all that is needed is the current Carbon Trading regime. All of Chloes antics are more about control than the weather | Cookie |
| Two issues, first one is global polution, second one is NZ polution. Number 2 has no impact on the whole global polution yet we act economic suicide. Number 1 has no commitment from the main poluters. Finally, let’s reduce waste globally and produce durability. Nz uses a billion plastic throw away products a year. Ultimately we are all managed by woefully bad and incapable ideologists, until that changes and common sense and pragmatism starts ruling our societies we will not improve. | Leonard |
| Basing policy and regulation on impossible scenarios is offensive to science and humanity. | Neville |
| media generated hysteria at an end – dream on. See what happens when the next virus comes along | Steve |
| At last! | Alec |
| YES. And pass the message on to Local Government also. | Mark |
| At long last!!! | Alastair |
| The greatest scam in history. Al and all his Gorons(useful idiots) should be moved around in stocks to the capital in victim countries where local facilitators will join them. Later to vanish from all public life | Kevin |
| Finally an opportunity to get back to some normality in our society- but unfortunately it will take time for the activists to recognize their errors. | Robin |
| long overdue | RAY |
| It was just another fear-mongering hoax and all the predictions made by the alarmists over the past 2 decades have not materialised. | Warren |
| It has always been a scam, it’s just that now more people are realizing that it is. | Alan |
| totally withdraw, its been bs all along | john |
| Not enough accountibility taken by politicions they shouldt be held accountable for their decisions personally. | mike |
| These old assumptions need to be put away they are costing the average New Zealander a heap of money in levies however also are responsable for decisions that are no longer factual | malcolm |
| We’ve all been sold a lie by the IPCC which has been amplified by our chicken little councils around the country. How much ratepayer money has already been squandered by these idiots in the name of climate change policies. And the useless MSM has a lot to answer for ….. | Dave |
| Better late than never ! | Hylton |
| Absolutely!! I wonder in who’s pockets our previous leaders have been and who actually is behind the scene . Obviously we have lost control over our own destiny some time ago. Decisions are made by consecutive Governments which deliver something entirely different from what was promised in the first place and which is totally opposite of what is actually good for our Nation. We have arrived at a stage which is called in this modern term ‘ managed decline’. Everybody who is aiding and abetting these Climate change Ponzi schemes is guilty as sin. | Michael |
| Gone by lunch time please. | Allan |
| All major media outlets should be FORCED by Government to fully acknowledge their past errors of judgement and publish a suitable apology. | Jim |
| I don’t normally express my thoughts on issues raised by NZCPR even though I do vote. My main issue/question to all these supposed “Think Tanks” and experts in Climate Conditions, is “Why hasn’t the Earth died already…….. My question is based initially on historical facts and my own experience of what burning coal etc does to the environment. History: The industrial revolution during the last two centuries, it used coal and oil in vast quantities not to mention the domestic use for heat. The current use of coal by industry is infinitesimal (percentage wise) when compared to the use of coal during the time mentioned above. Why then did the world not descend in to catastrophic failure as these experts say that by keeping Huntly Power Station active will cause irreparable damage to our climate. My Personal experience: I was born in Sheffield South Yorkshire in 1946. Sheffield at that time was one of worlds epicentres of Steel Manufacturing, and guess what, it used coal, coke and any other product that was carbon, the atmosphere was abhorrent. You cannot stop the production and use of coal or oil until a reliable alternative is found, certainly reduce the use of coal if it is commercially viable to use an alternative – lets be sensible – but we like to hear/read “Catastrophic Events” | Stephen |
| Should have done it immediately | George |
| ABSOLUTELY | Andrea |
| And cancel net zero as well. Both absurd | Andi |
| Climate change has been part of the New World order plan for global control from the beginning. The’ herd mentality’ that persists in society is a’ follow the leader mentality and our Government is prey to that , demonstrably.” Our trading partners would not like it if we did not follow suit ” is the way which prevails. We need more leaders who can think for themselves and do what they know is right. | Harvey |
| Get on to it NOW. No more bullshit. IDIOTS!!!!!! | RAY |
| The climate change scene is full of Cons | Denis |
| We don’t know what we don’t know. Making believing anything, very perilous. Especially when we listen to those who don’t know that, they don’t know. | Bob |
| I have long rejected the hysterical World-wide opinions on climate change and what should be done about it in NZ | Malcolm |
| Climate Change has just been another hoax like we’ve seen many times before. Scare-mongering. We had the Y2K bug, Global Warming, Covid & many other examples. Of course the Climate Scenarios should be reversed immediately. Of course this has impacted on our insurance premiums too. | Simon |
| This info has been about for some time and the government should act smartly on it. | Eric |
| Should never entered | Chris |
| hell yes !! | norman |
| ASAP | Geoffrey |
| Just a load of made up rubbish. | Mike |
| How gullible do you need to be to swallow all the fake science thats been coming from the IPCC all these years. At last they have finally allowed some reality to guide their decisions and proclamations. | Brian |
| All the cost connected to climate change have distorted the real cost and has all been driven by these liberal lefties. Cancel this B S immediately. | Ken |
| Absolutely Withdraw from the Paris accord and the UN | Pauline |
| Absolutely! It’s a no brainer and should have been sorted long ago. The economic damage done (still happening) is huge for New Zealanders and it’s tax payers. I suspect NZ First will be the only political party to have the guts to sort it – and get out of the Paris Accord !! | John |
| Always knew that it was a load of rubbish | Ron |
| YEW THEY SHOULD BUT WILL THEY.It seems to me they,ll get ignoring COMMON SENSE & THE PUBLIC,S VIEWS like they have been doing for years. | Cindy |
| trust this is the end of the green scam !! | Warwick |
| Stuff is stuffed. NIWA is a self-serving crowd trading in anxiety | Mick |
| Absolutely!! It needs to be done immediately and the media must be made to publish this decision without any of their spin! | John |
| Definitely. Before the Election | frank |
| It’s all a scam of the biggest order. Thank goodness. | Ross |
| Finally common sense is prevailing! | Ron |
| The Govt should get on with eliminating from all policy this ridiculous and impossible distortion of reality. | Stephen |
| Absolutely. | Chris |
| Yes. I would also extend to demand councils remove their ‘Climate Action’ rate fee of over $200/year and reimburse us for all that we have paid since it was applied Harder to do for government as they don’t send us a bill every quarter. | Kathryn |
| A lot of people knew it was rubbish. | Pete |
| A MUST DO | NOEL |
| THIS is a book Chris Luxon needs to read. The impact of climate change nonsensical policy is severe and we are in a cost of living crisis. Urgent action is required. Will he recant? If not he should resign altogether. | ken |
| I never believed the Russia/China dominated UN body in the first place. I was always a denier. | Graeme |
| Told ya so! | John |
| Political climate change has always been a massive con, proven when, suddenly taxation will solve the problem, except the problem kept getting worse, therefore more tax was required. the lunatic left has always assemed the the general population is as as stupid as they are, and of course they are wrong. | Hugh |
| Like yesterday | Ken |
| ….as soon as possible – so what is the agenda for respective political parties AHEAD of the November Election…? | John |
| 100%. This whole climate change nonsense was a scam from day one. Money has been extorted from average people to line the pockets of the elite. | Gareth |
| Expecting the Govt to act quickly though on this is falce hope | wayne |
| Absolutely, if we ‘turned NZ off for a year it would have no affect on the world climate or emissions | Peter |
| been a myth for so many years. | bob |
| It has all been the biggest global financial scam in history | Alastair |
| They should withdraw and react to this latest revelation but considering that the Public Service and MSM are not much more than socialist activists I have my doubts that they will be able to do so. | G F |
| At last some common sense based on science | Ian |
| The data against the alleged man made climate change has existed well beyond the last ten years and it is about time that this furphy was put to rest once and for all. | Ronnie |
| Sooner than later to relieve the spiral in cost of living for the average NZ family. | Ray |
| Obviously | Gerry |
| Yes, as soon as possible!! | Tuarti |
| Insanity…still rules the World ! | Chris |
| Nestles Int. and Lloyd’s of London have both realise their relevant mistake made about climate – and especially about the IPCC and its misguided modellers. Join the “good sense”, based upon the researched science provided by the likes of Prof. Will Happer, Atomic Physicist, Princeton Uni, N.J., USA other other leading, appropriately qualified academics. The NZ Government, eager ofter to be FIRST IN THE WORLD on social (including political) issues, could lead in a most worthwhile, massive cost saving manner, with this immediate adoption suggestion! | Alan |
| Absolutely! This is just yet another scam foisted on us by non-thinkers. The Earth will do what she wants, when she wants, and there is nothing we can do about it. It doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t care. Far from it. This is God’s Earth, He is the Creator, He is the owner. We, on the other hand are only the caretakers. Maybe now we can get on with our lives without this stupidity. | Heather |
| FORWITH ITS SIMPLY WOW | RICHARD |
| NZ should also withdraw from the ludicrous Paris Accord and drop all climate nonsense. You can be sure if a corrupt organisation like the IPCC has had to begrudgingly admit this then like all their modelling is rubbish and all their assessments just propaganda for climate communism. | John |
| All net zero policies must be withdrawn and the government apologize to New Zealand for being part of this scam | JOHN |
| Why would they continue with false scenarios | Alec |
| Climate change always has been and always will be a scam. | Terry M |
| Needs to be withdrawn immediately. This has been driven by politicians of all stripes, a biased public sector and flawed thinking by ill-informed scientists. Worse, every time this nonsense is challenged, the reply is, “Believe the science.” Little wonder no-one believes scientists. | Gavin |
| If the facts are as stated – that RCP8.5 is no longer deemed to be plausible by climate policy experts. | tony |
| long overdue | Colin |
| Do it. Don’t let the bullshit continue any longer!! | Wayne |
| NZ needs a balanced approach not the ONE fits all as RPC8.5 prescribes!! | DAVID |
| Climate Change Hysteria has cost New Zealand billions in lost productivity, not to mention the number of farmer suicides caused by impossible regulatory burdens imposed on individuals by enforcing ridiculous regulations. So not only financial costs, but also irrecoverable losses to thousands of people in this country. It is very timely that this hideous fraud has been revealed publicly. | dianna |
| conned again | nev kath |
| Great article & very informative | Dave |
| Not immediately, but def on their agenda. Luddites couldn’t cope with immediate. | Marilyn |
| And put the money saved into Health and other infrastructure. Or maybe give compensation to all the farmers who have been held to ransom over this rort. | sandra |
| If they don’t, then it will just highlight the corruption involved in the system. | Peter |
| There is no point in New Zealand doing anything about ‘climate change’. We are such a small country with minimal impact. it is the big countries like the US, China & India that need to change. | david |
| It should never have been implemented in the first place. The amount of “climate change” New Zealand could add to the world is infinitessimal. If New Zealand disappeared beneath the waves, nothing in the world would change because we were not here any longer. | Trevor |
| It always was dubious. | Evans |
| It should never have been adopted in the first place. It just shows how our government, amongst others around the world, blindly follow these international agencies without any real scientific research of their own. Then it becomes the blinkered leading the blind. | Trevor |
| The climate scam has cost us a fortune. Now we need to kill the ETS as well. Another economic disaster. | Mike |
| Absolutely, this has long been questioned by many organisations. Shout it and force nz media to publish it. | Laura |
| Surely the whole climate alarmism fiasco has done much too much damage in so many different ways now that we can end it all. | Roger |
| Absolutely without question | David |
| It’s a scam | Mike |
| The stress & financial costs on communities all around the country from their local councils inflicting climate adaptation plans, net zero targets, climate emergency plans etc are horrendous. The deafening silence from mainstream media not reporting in this huge news is despicable. | Caroline |
| The U.N’s stance on climate change has been based on flawed science and hysteria. Hopefully our Govt. will recognise this and have the political will and gonads to make the change this year. Ria. | Geoff |
| We have lived with this. Climate scam for long enough. Reverse all policies developed to implement this Climate crises agenda. | Peter |
| It has always been a distorted ideal led by Greta Thornburg and picked up by the greens and idiots across the world. There was always good Data from real scientists who argued against their over the top protests but as always, the squeaky wheel,or in this case,the loudest protesters got the most airtime or media cover.How long will it now take Luxon and his coalition to bring the sceaching protesters back to reality. | Peter |
| Wake up MP’s. | Donald |
| Urgent withdrawal required | Peter |
| YES, ASAP. It’s a massive handbrake at a time we can’t afford it. Business’s are falling over because of it. | Andrew |
| Stop the madness now! | Gavin |
| Always was a scam. | Mick |
| This was the problem with computer modelling. It happened with Covid too resulting in hugely exaggerated possible outcomes unsurvivable without the shots. | Janet |
| Sense at last | Sonia |
| And insist on Headline stories in all the national and local press. | Rob |
| Right from day one it was only about money | Ken |
| Middle of the road policy for me | Brian |
| Yes | Wendy |
| Of course they should, and they should also make a public announcement detailing same, as the mainstream media seem reluctant to do so | Gail |
| Immediately! | Michael |
| Climate alarmists should be shot starting with NIWA because of thr damage the lying bastards have caused | Brian |
| Itwas a hoaks | Garth |
| Let’s stop wasting time and money, and let’s get down to realism. | Malcolm |
| We need to get rid of this Henny Penny scenario. The sky is not falling. Instead, we should be wary of any metaphorical cunning fox that uses this moral panic to exploit others. | Kent |
| and demand a refund for the bs scare mongering they promoted. The UN needed a world wide problem so they as a world wide body could con the world out of billions. SO they CREATED a problem. Read Ian Wisharts book “Air Con” and investigative journalist who gives ALL his sources and actually just wants the truth. Read it and make up your own mind! | Rita |
| Time to go back to common sense &.fairer prices for electricity Insurance fuel etc!!! | Dominique GREENSLADE |
| Yes absolutely 100% this must be withdrawn. The scaremongering must stop. We are all suffering. This should be front-page news. Shame on msm for not informing the public. Councils must withdraw this RCP8.5 from our LIM reports and insurance companies. | Joyce |
| For the good of our country all these now rejected climate change policies must be removed immediately. The government must be decisive and swift about actioning this. | Laurence |
| Please contact CRU in Kapiti They have an injunction and Judicial Review placed on Council to stop a Jacobs report using RCP 8.5 being accepted causing 2/3 of population to have hazards on LIMS | Joanne |
| An example of following political ideoligy and not science Climate change is a myth. | Alan |
| I always thought it was a load of bollocks anyway – get rid of it!! | William |
| Coastlines have remained unchanged for the last 120 years. | Hans |
| Not only withdraw for future policy and planning, but revisit all policy decisions that have been based on this model | Colin |
| I am tired of my great grand children telling me that they are being taught that climate change warming is something to be afraid of. I even have a highly intelligent nephew believing in it | Catherine |
| and immediately | murray |
| Absolutely, withdrawn from Paris Accord, UN, WEF, WHO and while we are at it, anything to do with the Treaty. We need to get New Zealand back on her feet | Claire |
| Absolutely, the sooner the better | Vivienne |
| The Climate warming and then changed to Climate change was a scam right from the start and because of it, it has cost New Zealand billions of dollars. NZ needs to get out of the UN. WHO. WEF Etc. | Wayne |
| It was always a scam | Greg |
| Most definitely.There has been no such thing as global warming.Only another huge money making racket.This Govt should wake up and act immediately against this. | Linda |
| Looking for the refunds but will accept price restorations. LOL! | Fred |
| Absolutely. | Gary |
| We should just focus in resilience not prevention | Janet |
| Absolutely essential. | Richard |
| Yes yes yes | Susan |
| ABSOLUTELY & About time’ The media has a lot to answer for denying the other viewpoints. Refer David Kear, et al | Doug |
| There has always been climate change and human impact is minimal except the erosion of habitable spaces for nature and wildlife. | john |
| It’s a gloBalist money making SCAM. | Mike |
| It always was nothing more than a scam to transfer wealth from developed countries to those that weren’t. The US finally woke up (no pun) under Trump and we should too. | Mike |
| absolutely yes, this was madness from the start, this has had a major impact on young people especially with regard to mental health and fertility rates. | Noel |
| but I doubt they will. There will be an outcry that we still have a climate emergency. I’m not denying the climate is changing, what I dispute is what is causing it. | mike |
| Most definitely, make changes immediately and inform the country of this good news. We need good news and financial relief. Arderns promise of billions to climate change can be taken off the countries books. | Stephanie |
| Should never have got involved in the first place You have to wonder about the intelligence of our decisions makers Of course it’s really a case of FOLLOW the money | Peter |
| Just another unlawful tax grab by our corrupt government who answers to CORRUPT UN | Greg |
| My gut and strong common sense has always told me to be very sceptical of all the climate dooms-dayism. Not only do the Govt. need to withdraw the discredited reports. they need to go back and assess the harm caused to the country and to people by their use in the past and compensation needs to be considered. Not just because they blindly followed the reports but that they did so to such an extreme measure – especially regarding how small NZ is and how tiny any contribution we could have made to any climate problems would have been. It was completely uncalled for. | Brenda |
| The climate narrative is a farce. And is costing the country and its citizens a fortune. | Anna |
| The world has been conned. Most of us knew this but were silenced by the climate believers. Now let’s see what the MSM have to say. | Brian |
| Immediately. | Graham |
| It was always a scam. And the country suffered while a few made huge gains from an ill-founded ideology. | Ross |
| YES, YES, YES – NOW – immediately. We have been made to suffer this total bullshit for FARRRR too long. Incredible crap. | Brian |
| This shows you that Govts have not got a mind of their own cant think for themselves and follow like sheep to the slaughter, on all this way-out brainless scaremongering | Colin |
| Yes, but they won’t. Luxflakes has been captured by the international group think brigade! | Alan |
| Before it’s too late, | Alan |
| Absolutely….New Zealand should never have signed up to this. | Richard |
| Man made climate change, Biggest con ever. | David |
| This is not the first time that international organisations have misled the world, resulting in the little people funding large corporate profits who potentially use these profits to influence govt policy to their favour. As a country we need to independently take charge of our future. Big question: when is the refund to the little people going to happen and when is the carbon bank in Paris being closed? | Raymond |
| Absolutely and those supporting this boondoggle immediately sent down the road and public ally exposed for the fools they are | Phil |
| But there will be unbelievable face saving before they do. | Phil |
| We now know modeling is garbage science at best, and mostly click-bait. Modeling should never be used for anything. Actual evidence, gathered from what’s happening outside our windows is the only truth that is reliable. | Aj |
| Absolutely. Unfortunately it will take years no doubt for the damage done to be repaired. So many people have been brainwashed.! | Jane |
| These climate scenarios have been discredited from the very beginning by many internationally renowned scientists and a withrawal is overdue. Too much damage has already been done. | Klaus |
| But they won’t..what does that tell us about their agenda? | Rod |
| Yea finially some sense | Jane |
| Oh dear! What’s Greta going to say now? I guess she’s just been made redundant. Lol Government should withdraw from the Paris agreement immediately. | Koreen |
| As you have astutely written – the main problem has been lack of accountability systems over corrupt media. Followed by weak and self serving politicians and bureaucrats rolling over instead of drilling down for the truth on taxpayers behalf. The very poor results on the whole world stage are what we are left with. Possibly one of the biggest ‘told you so’ moments in our current history. So how do we fix the root causes of these issues in our own country? Change MMP? More Referendums? Regulate Media? I don’t know – but it sure needs more debate. One thing I believe -we need a few more intelligent politicians in our leadership with a bit more courage. | Andrew |
| About bloody time. I want to hear the PM acknowledge this situation. | Francis |
| The charade has gone on far too long. Adern and Labour plus the Greens are responsible for entrenching this nonsense. Primary schools in NZ now teach children they could have their lives endangered by climate change. Please — enough is enough. y | John |
| Climate change is a global farce. | Terry |
| The climate hoax was just another way governments,councils etc, taxed people and stole our land! at the core of all governments is control, and people have had enough! governments are done! we no longer trust them to do right by us. we need a new system of governance that puts the peoples needs back on the table. | lisa |
| Of course they should, but will they? There was a debate in Parliament a couple of days ago about what a woman is. The National government’s position was appalling. The only good thing about National is that it is a littly better than the alternative. | Chuck |
| At last this global warming crap has been proven to be bulls#@t. The damage to NZ’s economy has been massive carbon taxes, insurance policy rip offs, etc etc. The earths weather will do what it will do, humanity has little say in it. Pollution is of far greater concern. | Andrew |
| Withdraw asap | Elizabeth |
| Sick of the fear tactics | Deb |
| Climate Change Marxism is a ploy for the cry bullies who want to evict Kiwi farmers from the land as our food producers. Communists, socialists and Marxists are all holding the same umbrella of shade. | Eileen |
| At last!! | Gordon |
| Subject to greater explanation to the general public of how we got in this position and the results of this change. This is needed to stop all the unhinged reactions to date on climate change. | Lex |
| Withdraw from the Paris accord as well. Real world data as in sea level rise shows a scenario way below the predictions. Managed Retreat a NZ documentary. | Keith |
| Finally, common sense. | Jill |
| NZ government should have shown far greater pragmatic discernment of the “climate change” issue long before now. | Jim |
| Absolutely, considering it was farcical anyway. | Deb |
| We should go back to using our own Oil, Gas and Coal immediately in order to get the economy back to a level field that has been lacking for years. All resources should remain or be put back into New Zealand hands. Successive Government have been wasting tax payers money long enough. | Pete |
| Nz govt have been acting like a mob of sheep…..just follow the mob. About time this Climate Change farce was kicked into touch. Just follow the money …as always. | Diane |
| Any one with common sense could see what a scam it was . | Beryl |
| The greatest hoax of all time finally exposed | John |
| Absolutely they should abandon this global hoax immediately from all our official policies. | Steve |
| Long overdue. And revise any ETS contributions, also. | DAVID |
| Numerous publications and guidelines previously published by the Environment Ministry need to be withdrawn and replaced by documents based on plausible scenarios | Barry |
| Get the Billions of Kiwi $$$$$ back from Tedros Ghebrosus. Return all the money. Make the grinning idiot, Simon Watts, apologize for all his lies and deception. | Coral |
| And compensate through astronomical rates bills | Yvonne |
| Climate change and carbon zero was always a hoax plaguing every day people. Anyone with a basic knowledge Chemistry, Physics, Meterology, two eyes, two ears and a little intelligence had the potential knowledge to figure this out. Government has always been occupied and poisoned by incompetant people too busy with their personal agendas to aquire real knowledge. As for the press…again it takes no genius to move into this category, just the Grift-Of-The Grab. | Charles |
| It was always alarmist propaganda to disguise a leftist power grab. | Frank |
| Urgent action is required especially to reassure our children and grandchildren that the planet is not doomed | Terry |
| I have been fighting with councils and MfE for years about this. They don’t want to listen. RCP8.5 is now only useful to detect the climate signal from natural variability. Let that sink in. To find the effect human activities may have on the climate of the future, scientists have to manufacture warming and ascribe it to humans. | Sean |
| Will they do it? NO. That takes a Government willing to accept they have made a mistake based on being misled by so called experts who are so arrogant they won’t listen to laymen like me who ask sensible questions. | Martin |
| Yes, use the money more productively. Let farmers farm. | Mat |
| The earth is simply coming out of a cyclical ice age and it is slowly warming | Michael |
| Took them long enough to realise they were Wrong. Can we get them to reimburse what it cost us? | Chris |
| Climate change has been proven to be a global scam,people need to wake up to the real truth and Facts of this Orchestrated Litany Of Lies,mind you it’s been very Profitable for a lot of Self Proclaimed Elites,Politicians scam scientists,etc,etc. | Roy |
| Why? | Julian |
| Absolutely, and With great haste | Gordon |
| Yes, stop the madness now. Sadly it seems our Politicians live in a bubble of group think and no common sense. | Sam |
| ABSOLUTELY !!! | Doug |
| All this now confirmed rubbish must be removed and the green party as no longer Needed. All New Zealanders and NZ will be better off with it gone. An early Christmas present if and when our current government acts on this? AND THEY MUST ACT NOW! | Kevan |
| I always said and believed climate change was a joke, I bet the media will tell the brain washed nothing about the new developments though. | Paul |
| Withdraw immediately. The whole country and our people will be better off. | Allan |
| Off course they should….they shouldn’t have listened to this rubbish in the first place….Nothing will be done though..Too many benefit from it… | Hans |
| Absolutely – this rubbish should have been ditched years ago. It is make-believe that should have had no place at all in public policy. | Dave |
| This just shows that the climate skeptics were right all along. Man made climate change is a crazy idea pushed by socialists to force the voluntary de-industrialisation of the Western world! | Jim |
| All those newspaper headlines and TV stories saying that humans are causing a climate apocalypse is just hype designed to scare us – and sell newspapers. It has no basis in the real-world. Those media outlets should apologise for their scaremongering. | Paul |
| Of course the government should withdraw those faulty scenarios from all public policies and replace them with whatever standards were in place before this climate alarmism took hold. | Hugh |
| Thank goodness there is now a glimmer of hope that this dreadful climate alarmism that has done so much damage to NZ can finally be rejected. Here’s hoping! | Fiona |