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Dr Muriel Newman

A Tapestry of Lies


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The Government has delayed Three Waters until early next year.

Labour says it is because they want to wait for a report from their Three Waters Working Group of nine “hand-picked” mayors, nine iwi representatives and two officials that was established last October to advise on how “co-governance” would work in practice.

But in reality, this delay is damage control aimed at quelling the criticism over a lack of ‘consultation’ that erupted once it was realised that the new Three Waters Bill had been scheduled to be tabled in Parliament before the Working Group reported back.

With its restrictive terms of reference, and a membership largely supportive of the reforms, no substantive changes are expected from the Working Group’s February report. However, there’s little doubt it will be ‘spun’ by the Government as an important round of ‘consultation’: “Government listening to the concerns of the people”.

The Minister for Local Government Nanaia Mahuta has advised a draft Bill will be released “in the coming days” to both to the Working Group, and to the public. As soon as it becomes available, we will post it on our NZCPR Three Waters campaign page here: www.nzcpr.com/3waters

In reality, the Working Group report is simply another thread in what has become a tapestry of lies and misinformation to conceal the real objective of the reforms, which is to deliver control of New Zealand’s water infrastructure and services to the Maori tribal elite. It’s part of the He Puapua agenda that Labour – under the direction of the Maori caucus – is rushing through Parliament while it has an absolute majority in the House to pass any laws it likes, and while the Maori caucus has the dominant influence within the party.

Three Waters
is the most significant change to local councils since amalgamation in 1989. Despite its significance, Labour’s argument for reform lacks any credible foundation. It is based on, unreliable data, bogus advertising, exaggerated benefits, and a fabricated Treaty ‘partnership’ claim.

As if that is not bad enough, they have even attempted to suppress resistance from local councils by enticing Local Government New Zealand – an organisation that supposedly speaks on behalf of councils – into signing a Memorandum of Agreement to “partner” with central government and promote the reforms.

Furthermore, through their multi-million-dollar Public Interest Journalism Fund, the Government is preventing the media from investigating the Treaty partnership claim on which “co-governance” is based, by requiring those who participate in the fund to proactively promote Treaty partnerships: “Actively promote the principles of Partnership… under Te Tiriti o Waitangi, acknowledging Maori as a Te Tiriti partner.”

Let’s go through some of the misinformation threads in more detail.

A water contamination incident in Havelock North in 2016, when farm runoff seeped into an aquifer used for town water supplies during a storm causing widespread illness, is being used as the catalyst for the reforms. 

With water supplies governed by the Resource Management Act and regulated by the Ministry of Health, regular surveillance reports from the Institute of Environmental Science and Research (ESR) however, show that overall, councils and other water suppliers largely meet the standards with the incidence of water borne infections through non-compliance relatively minor.

As a result, the Government has used a Ministry of Health report that pre-dates that Havelock North incident by ten years, to justify the Three Water reforms, claiming, “At least 34,000 New Zealanders become ill from drinking tap water every year”.

That 2006 report on the incidence of waterborne gastro-intestinal disease in New Zealand – prepared by the ESR for Helen Clark’s administration – starts off by finding there is no real problem: “An average of 16.8 waterborne outbreaks occur annually, affecting an average of 145 cases/year… the size of most outbreaks is small, averaging nine cases per outbreak in 2000-2004, and is smaller than any other countries for which data are available.”

But the author was asked to estimate the occurrence of endemic waterborne gastro-intestinal disease in New Zealand, and because of a lack of dependable local data, highly questionable assumptions had to be used to arrive at an estimate of between 18,000 and 34,000 infections a year – with the author noting, “the reliability of this method is questioned by the author.”

In fact, the author had good cause to alert the reader about the reliability of the figures, because they do not pass the common sense test.

On the one hand the report claims the number of outbreaks in New Zealand is smaller than virtually anywhere else in the world – something consistently found in ESR monitoring – yet on the other hand, it claims tens of thousands of people get sick every year.

With the Havelock North incident affecting 5,000 people making national headlines, surely illness on a scale three to seven times greater would at least gain some attention in the public domain!

The reality is that there is no drinking water quality crisis in New Zealand.

Using a fifteen-year old report that the author admitted was unreliable as the basis of their reforms, the Government’s claim of 34,000 infections a year is dishonest and deceitful.

Then there’s the advertising campaign, which has already been discredited and shown to be false, that cost taxpayers $3.5 million, with a further $500,000 spent on a website. Claiming councils were failing to keep water clean and safe, and implying the answer was amalgamation, it even went as far as depicting green slime coming out of showers, and waterways turning into sludge.

When the ad first screened, the country’s Mayors were outraged that such insulting and alarmist misinformation was being promoted by the Government, and they called for the campaign to be abandoned.

But the Government refused.

Forty-eight New Zealanders also complained about the ad to the Advertising Standards Authority, but they ruled that in the context of advocacy advertising, the ads were neither offensive nor misleading.

Let’s call this “advocacy advertising” what it really is: political propaganda that has no basis of fact and is deliberately designed to scare the public into believing the fiction created by Labour to advance it’s own agenda. 

And the agenda that underlies the deceit and propaganda – and is the primary motivation for the Three Waters reform – is Labour’s “partnership” agenda, He Puapua. This blueprint for tribal rule over New Zealand by 2040, has Maori control of water as a key objective.

Developed in 2019 under the guise of enacting the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, and quietly rolled out during 2020, the Prime Minister kept He Puapua secret – not only from her Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters, but also from voters during the election.

Without a mandate from voters, Labour’s “partnership” plan for Maori control of public services and resources is totally illegitimate. At no stage during the election campaign did the Prime Minister even hint that she was planning to give control of water to Maori – nor that she was planning to undermine New Zealand democracy.

Treaty “partnerships” represent a major erosion of democracy – unaccountable private individuals representing 17 percent of the population, and acting in their own best interests instead of the public good, commanding 50 percent of decision-making power and the right of veto.

Using official records, we can follow the evolution of this tribal water privatisation plan.

A Cabinet paper, issued by the new Minister of Local Government Nanai Mahuta in April 2018, simply mentioned the need for consultation with iwi over Three Waters reform: “This work will be led by the Department of Internal Affairs, and will involve substantial engagement with local government, iwi, and other sector interests.”

By November 2018, Cabinet papers show iwi were being prioritised by the Minister: “Engagement with iwi is important… because of the significant expertise and experience iwi have in resource management, infrastructure development, and water issues. It will be necessary to engage at the national, catchment, and local levels given the range of iwi interests, and also the different and often localised way that three waters challenges are experienced by Maori communities.”

Fast-forward to June 2020, and a Three Waters Cabinet paper mentions asset transfers: “We will need to consider and address Treaty-related rights and interests, and engage with iwi… Further work is required on the impact of the potential of asset transfer and Treaty issues… When engaging with iwi, we will seek to use the National Iwi Chairs Forum.”

With iwi leaders representing multi-million dollar business corporations involved in policy development, once the election delivered Labour the power to govern alone, Treaty “partnerships” became a fait accompli: “On 14 December 2020, Cabinet agreed that a high-level principle of partnership with iwi will be followed throughout the reform programme, and reflected in the new three waters service delivery system… I am proposing that we commit to a high level principle of partnership in this work, and seek to ensure this approach is reflected in the governance and operational arrangements of the new water service delivery entities and broader regulatory system.”

In other words, with Jacinda Ardern’s blessing, the Treaty has become a partnership, and the partnership has become co-governance and power sharing.

It doesn’t seem to matter that it is constitutionally impossible for the Crown to enter into a partnership with subjects and that the Treaty “partnership” is a big ‘lie’, Labour is pro-actively promoting a 50:50 co-governance Treaty partnership as the truth.

In this environment, democracy is under attack as never before. How can any New Zealand Prime Minister think it’s acceptable to forfeit democratic control of critical resources and essential services to private sector groups operating in their own best interests?

The reality is that we will have to fight to prevent billions of dollars of ratepayer-funded assets being taken away without fair compensation – and without consent. But fortunately, leaders are emerging who have the fortitude to stand up against authoritarian rule.

Bruce Smith, the Mayor of the Westland District Council and this week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator, is one such leader, who has been sharing his Three Water journey with us throughout the year. In this last update for 2021 he outlines the state of play:

“Kiwis will not support the loss of local control. They will not support having the three waters assets owned by Councils placed into a large corporate entity with 50% of the governance Councils and 50% Iwi. They are saying its undemocratic as we are one people not two tribes.”

Bruce outlines the lies and how he and other councils are fighting back: “Government has consistently maintained that councils will continue to own their water assets and that’s been proven to be a real porkie. Through a Statement of Claim filed in the High Court three councils are asking the courts to provide a legal affirmation of their council’s position and its ownership of assets. This will provide a legal framework of shared understanding for all parties going ahead on the key issues of council asset ownership and its democratic responsibilities. This will assist both parties to understand the parameters of ownership.”

At least one other group has also launched legal action against the Government’s Three Waters plan, with a focus on Maori rights to water.

Without a doubt, Three Waters has become a major battleground between the Government, attempting to elevate iwi into a permanent ruling class, and Kiwis fighting to defend ratepayer rights, democracy, and our way of life.

Labour’s recent slide in the polls shows the public is finally waking up to the damage this Government is inflicting – especially the dangerous and escalating racial divide.

Labour Party voters need to wake up too – are they happy that the Maori caucus is in control and is orchestrating the iwi power grab that is presently underway?   

Mayor Bruce Smith assures us that most local authority mayors are pushing back against Three Waters, but as he reminds us, “the power rests with the people.”

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THIS WEEK’S POLL ASKS:

*Do you believe iwi should have any special role in water management?

*Poll comments are posted below.

 

*All NZCPR poll results can be seen in the Archive.

 

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THIS WEEK’S POLL COMMENTS

Definitely not! What happened to the ‘we are one’ campaign? Sonya
Absolutely not!!! Sarah
ABSOLUTELY NOT !! patricia
This government lies cause they know the left leaning TV1 and TV3 will hide the truth from us.I urge people to watch Fox News if you can, you will be shocked at what the main stream media withholds from us about Sleepy Joe Biden.Merry Christmas everybody. morea
Certainly not now or ever the whole concept is crazy. Sidwell
Iwi members can’t manage their own personal finances, so how are they going to manage the financial aspects of three waters. Bob
It is a totally contrived rort being promulgated by Government on the back of grossly exaggerated claims / LIES about the extent of problems with water. 3Waters is a totally dishonest device to try and give Maori governance control of water and control of the replayed assets and to provide them an opportunity in perpetuity to make huge wealth from water. It is a total rort on ALL other New Zealanders. Hugh
It will be another nail in the coffin of democracy Gary
Thi needs to be stopped NOW. paul
Im feed up with this government. Irene
We are one country and racial origin must not be taken into account. Brian
No democracy, ratepayers should have their say Ngaire
We never voted for a totalitarian state-control government Joanne
Absolutely NOT. Words fail me – to say what I really think, I would be locked up. I have never been so angry in my whole life at what is happening. I came to a democratic country 50 years ago, under a three-year bond, enjoyed the lifestyle and stayed on. I do not want to end my days regretting that decision.. As far as I am concerned I think all 120 MPs should just be known as EXPENDABLES – let’s get rid of them all and start afresh. Fiona
No no no Bev
Ratepayers input with their mayor/council of each area only Jon
Water is one of the few monopopolies that MUST remain in Council ownership. Any option is a short road to privatisation and huge profitsi bill
Apartheid is nearly here John
it is just not fair !!!! graham
Of course not! What’s happening to the concept of one NZ? Does this government not want to represent the majority? Paul
We need true and fair representation and control based on all New Zealanders being equal. Murray
absolutely not. there has been the odd glitch but by and large the system works well john
No no no ! andrew
They will steal it from New Zealanders. They can%u2019t be trusted Kenneth
It is a joke as is the labour govt John
Dump Three Waters! Allan
We are 1 = 100% Roydon
No words can describe my anger at what this government is doing to New Zealand. Well, they would be very bad words actually, Chris
This whole thing is absurd! Glenda
‘Lenin with hair’ Ardern and her apartheid co-governor Mahuta are a disgrace to democracy – fragile indeed. Maori supremacists have no skills in water management and would be a disaster. Monica
This is an openly racist proposal, and , for the record, Maori ate the indigenous people of our country. Andrew
Congratulations to Westland Mayor Bruce Smith for continuing to bring the 3 waters saga to the public notice. Gaining traction throughout New Zealand In my letter to the two Christchurch newspapers in July about the numerous draconian regulations this government is imposing on all New Zealanders. My letter started off “an unwelcome to the new New Zealand Communist Party (previously known as the New Zealand Labour Party”. Letter not printed. Cyril
Out of respect, they could be consulted but they don’t need a starring role.  Kate
Our water belongs to all New Zealanders and not just the Maori elite. Rate payers have paid for local infrastructure and should be controlled by local councils. Helen
Foreign affairs Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta stated that all water coming from the heavens belongs to Maori . Three Waters was a proposal to be discussed now she saysi it is not open for discussion . About three weeks ago a fire at a water treatment plant in Chrischurch showed a building clearly marked THREE WATERS LABORATORY how come when Three Waters was not in existence, but obviously was ,who works there ,who pays them ? WHO IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY is it the Maori caucus or the Perveyor of a tapestry of lies. Maori are now engaged in setting up a TRIBAL based concept for indigenous economic trading funded by govt another TRIBAL scam paid for by hard working tax payers ,and will comprise of only Maori who historically will meet discuss until the money runs out and blame the colonists . Now we have reached a stage where the rest of the world has decreed booster jabs are essential do not wait 6 months except NZ who did not even specify what 6 months calendar of 4 weeks there is a 15 day difference I know because I have a chronic respiratory problem and was refused because it was less than 6 calendar months my due date being 27 Dec when the vaccine centre would be closed , I hasten to add this was my forth visit to this center and each time the only people there were the people running it . RULES ARE MADE FOR THE GUIDENCE OF THE WISE AND THE OBEYANCE . Vjvian
Iwi SHOULD NOT have any special role in management of any Government affairs Kay
one rule for all claire
3 water will be undemocratic. Still believe in one person one vote. An individuals vote should equal no matter their social status, ethnicity, sex, wealth, religious beliefs or politics. Paul
What a bunch of dishonest bastards- give politicians a bad rep forever! Mary
Racist apartheid Greg
Nor in any other infrastructure. Vic
The real agenda is passing “ownership” of our water through Maori and on to global corporations. Charles
Both the English and Maori versions of the Treaty require all citizens of NZ to be treated the same. Robert
come sooner next election – please. maurice
absolutely not. lets move on as a multiracial democratic society Anon
Zero Nil Nada Rien Zip Status Quo derived by history and local ratepayers should stand. It isnt broken so don’t fix it. Who in their right mind will endorse the machinations of a delusional idiot; espousing empty promises and moronic infantile logic. Climate, KiwiBuild, Clinton Foundation, Gang money……thinking kickbacks throughout? Zoran
Jacinda should be impeached for pushing this racist agenda. Roger
No way !! Completely and utterly Undemocratic !! Graeme
The role of water management needs to go to the best QUALIFIED people in NZ. Jim
No no no not now not ever Tom
this is nationation by a hard left socialist government cowtowing to its Maori caucas. It must be stopped Colin
If they can gain a position of authority within their qualifications and expertise equal or better than any other race then yes . If the can’t then they should never be gifted such a position. John
16% of the population should not have any special role!! Gillian
No! No! No! Phyl
Local councils are made up of iwi and the local population, I do not want to see our water taken out of council hands, with the possibility of an overseas corporation gaining control. Ritchie
They have a role, because they in present fact, control large areas of land important re water: absorption/retention, waterways, irrigation etc. But not more than Councils, Regional Councils and input from Ratepayers and all people generally. Rochelle
No, I wouldn’t even let them run a bath ! But all joking aside any Maori who has special qualifications or expertise is welcome to be on a panel or management group. But today it is raining and Maori do not own this life-force. Rain is God-given and always has been and owned by us all. Did you see our two-faced Prime Minister on the 10th of December on television mouthing on to the nation about her live meeting with world leaders regarding improving world democracy ? What about us first !? What a twisted young fool she really is and that statement for many Kiwis would have been a real vote killer Keep it up Jacinda– you are as mad as a duck in a thunder storm. One people, one nation should be our aim. John
We are ONE nation. The racial division must STOP. dave 
a criminal conspiracy – lies upon lies. murray
We should be treated as one people – New Zealanders together not by race. Tony
no Claire
A rude intrusion and power grab – which must not happen at any cost Robert
Three waters control is NOT legitimate. This would lead New Zealand totally out of being a democratic nation. This government has brought us this far – half way to being undemocratic with favouritism to those who number less than ten per cent of the whole population. Make maori b.ack off and accept equality is the most they should be aiming for – a level they are already way past but still pushing for more, more,more!!! CMM
No Co Governance Stephanie
Certainly NOT.That idea is completely unconstitional,and against the intention of the Treaty of Waitangi. David
We are all NZers, therefore why should the majority be held to ransom by minority who by the way contribute the least for the most. But then they tell us it is their way? Historically little is contributed by the Iwi to the majority of Maoridom, which relies on a modified Treaty and the Tax Payer. As for the protectors of the Fauna, their record is abysmal, and again relies on the taxpayer. As a taxpayer why haven’t the Government approached the voter, they were never mandated to introduce or the constitution. Brian
Since we live in a democracy control of the nations water resources should NEVER be seeded to a group of non elected and one would say radical iwi’s John
Of course not. They can’t govern themselves how do they expect to govern a modern Country? Peter
Water control is not a Utility based on race. It is a New Zealand wide resource for all and not for Iwi to control. Cheryl
NONE! Carol
No Big Government in local water administration. Set the standards and hold local councils responsible for maintaining and delivering water infrastructure. Severe penalties for not meeting/delivery of required standards Tjaart
Absolutely and totally NO ! There is nothing radically wrong with the current structure that some minor adjustments cannot fix. Donald
Absolutely No! We have a democratic system of voting which gives everyone an equal say and what can be fairer then that? When Jacinda imposes special deals for Maoris only, she is the one who is blatantly racist. It just shows there can’t be a law against being racist. Eric
Water is for all kiwis and not to be controlled by a minority Tony
Absolutely not. We are one people, and there is no place for one group of New Zealanders to rule over the others. Vicki
Water is an essential component of life itself. Like the air we breathe it is a God given commodity for all peoples to enjoy and use. No tribal group should have any say or control in its management. Democracy must be allowed to be the only factor in this debate. Phil
Definitely not any special role. Margaret
Iwi control is undemocratic and unwanted by the majority of New Zealanders. Richard
The majority of the people need to be the arbitrators of any move to take control of this country’s assets or freedoms. The people need to be strong against adversity in all forms, even if it is the government. Carol
No way this should be managed by all of NZ no segregation Ewan
No,no, no no!! John
The Government is voted in to do this for all New Zealand. Sue
IWI do not own water rights. The asset rights belong to ALL New Zealanders. and anyway did IWI provide fish in rivers and oceans? NO ! They did not !!! SO DUMB! David 
The councils run their water depts. for all rate payers within their jurisdiction irrespective race, creed or colour the last thing we want is for or water suppliers to be run by committee’s Brian & Trish
Simply on the basis that there is no justifiable reason for iwi to be involved. Gavin
A very dangerous and racist agenda not democratic and must be stopped leo
WE all and I mean every New Zealander has a special role in Water Management Don
The more I learn about Ardern her 3 Waters plan, thee more nauseated I become. In the next election, I will vote for any party that promises to overturn almost everything Ardern has done. Amen Mark
The whole thing is just a recipe for disaster. Thanks Labour. And – these buggers are supposed to represent New Zealanders and look out for the countries economy, welfare and future??? Does’nt look that way to me. Roy
Iwi should not have any greater say than any other group Peter
The fault for this rubbish can be traced back to John Key Chris Finlayson, first by not carrying out the election promise to remove the Maori seats and then signing that un convention on indigenous people. Hugh
WATER BELONGS TO ALL NEW ZEALANDERS RICHARD
No way ever, Maori do not “own” water in any shape or form. They have no more or less of a special relationship with water than any other race. They want control of water for reasons of political power. They also, by and large, as tribal groups; possess a limited technical and scientific background required for water delivery and control at large community levels ,on a national basis. Russ
We have years of skill and expertise around our Council tables. This should be used to correct any problems with water. Maori are at most 16% of the population yet under 3 Waters they are going to dominate the outcome. David
No, but the Court of Appeal did hold (in the originator of the so called “partnership” that the treaty does impose on each party a duty to act in good faith towards the other in matters relating to the treaty, and I have no problem with that. Trevor
If a race-based group is granted special rights affecting all individuals in our country then we are heading for a disaster of Immence proportions and the future of our country. I consider that the proposal would place a real split in society – the Them and Us. We must put a holt on these mad ideas – Now. Brian
Maori or any other group have a democratic right to be elected Into any government or council role, this should not be a given to any citizen of NEW ZEALAND. Not a Jacindar them and us or divide and conquer. Owen
I now wonder if its mahuta up our dictators backside or the other way round with the way things are now told by our lieing mp’s and media. surely there is a brilliant lawyer who can destroy this myth about a partnership in the treaty which should stop all this polywog corruption and our commie dictator from destroying this country called NEW ZEALAND once and for all otherwise what’s next to be taken, air, land, roads, transport, the list will never end. Richard
We must stop the unfair push to give Maori more than a fair share of power in NZ. NO to Three Waters, Pae Ora and Northland roadblocks. Please National state your views on Maorification. Chris
Absolutely not. This scheme sets a dangerous precedent and talk of a “partnership” is untruthful propaganda. Three Waters will end up costing millions annually, will give control of water to a handful of maori elite and racially divide this nation. Gavin
Maori as a minority has way too much say now Neil
Why are they special than others? Suzanna
No, no more than any other person or group, we are supposed to be one people, one nation. All I see with proposals like this is a divided nation. I think Three Waters may sink the Labour government and be their downfall. Fraser
Consultation with iwi is fine by me, to get considered and sensible points of view, but NOT to place radicals in a position of power over democratically elected governments. Time to scrap Maori seats. Vic
I will should concentrate on educating their children rather than try to take ownership of a resource which is all races absolute right. HANDS OFF IWI! Claire
No more than any other NZ citizen Maxwell
Water Management, as with all central and local administrations should be colour blind in a democracy. T
Definitely not. What happened to democracy. The treaty was never a partnership, which is constitutionally impossible. Tim
15% of the population should not be allowed to control/manage anything Raewyn
not “special” but some input yes. mike
water is a resource owned by all people and no group should have special input rights Gerhard
This is racial segregation by stealth. Lies disguised and manipulated with misconceptions to fool the unaware. Beware! We are one nation. Not a divided nation. Never! Robert
Maori should only have the samer rights as any other New Zealander. We are/were a democratic country until all the present Maori suterfuge and Govt. lies were indtroduced under cover. Ian
definitely not. greedy greedy lot. dona
Water falls from the sky. Nobody owns it and we all have an equal right to it. Andrew
No race should have any SPECIAL ROLE in water management. Only elected officials should have a say in management. Glyn
no there is far to much special consideration and treatment given to 1 small group of people in OUR country and its causing major problems. Jocelyn
Iwi should have no rights in the management of anything, until they put a flag in the sand and tell us when and where the treaty negotiations will end. It will be at that point that we will become one people, not before. I fear this will never happen as it seems Maoridom have no interest in resolving this whilst New Zealand seems intent on perpetuating the never ending settlements. Craig
It is not all Maori who will have control, just the new elite Maori. That would be disastrous for democracy. In fact, Ardern’s government is a complete disaster for democracy and must go. Frank
Water is for all new zealanders not to be dominated by any one group Mike
This will divide the country even more!! Russell
Hobson’s choice i Peter
Absolutely definitely NO. !!! Andrew
ABSOLUTELY NO. This is the most insidious manifestation of APARTHEID that NZ practices to date. Geoff
Jacinda and her caucus should be charged with treason. Mike
Absolutely and categorically, no. Stuart
There is absolutely no reason that a particular race or racial group should have a role in water management. Doug
With apologies to William Shakespeare, I say: “Out, Damned Labour Government, and take your negative National mates with you”! We put one team into the waka (canoe) and they row it across the lake, then we replace the team with that other bunch, and they row it back again, and we are going nowhere. It is time to change direction! Kevan
New Zealanders first and foremost. Identifying by face and dividing the spoils by race is a recipe for disaster. Mark
This is far more serious than COVID Iain
IWi have no place in South Island leadership. Ngai Tahu wrangled a huge settlement for themselves which they have not put to good use. Prehistory shows that Maori in the South Island were transient. The Waitaha were true dwellers of the South Island. They gained nothing from the Ngai Tahu pay off. Tine to stop the rot and accept that if Maori want to lead they need to stand up before the whole nation. Peter
Absolutely NOT This war on democracy has to be stopped Parick
Absolutely NOT This ridiculous racism has to be very firmly rejected Patrick
There is only 15% of Maori that make up the total population of NZ, why in hell do they get so much say here in NZ? Don
No, because they are no more special than the next person. Heather
Why should they they can never own the water Laurel
Emphatically NO. They have little or no experience in control of any resources. Their competence in conservation is demonstrated by their extermination of the Moa (or are they going to say that was a result of colonisation so whitey’s fault?) And let’s not forget that they very nearly succeeded in self-extermination prior to the TlW Ron
THe government is conning the people of NZ and attempting to turn us into a communist country using racist edicts and methods Derek
They should be included in community consultations like all citizens. Tim
Because this is not about water quality, it’s all about power and control Gavin
How do you define a Maori? Are there any Maori’s left in New Zealand? Peter
This is nothing more than govt sponsored theft, and the blatant lies told to “sell” this via taxpayer funded advertisements was and is pure propaganda. Robin
Equal rights for all New Zealander’s Chris
None at all.. Allan
No way they should have any more say than anyone else. At the end of the day they are just colonials and most certainly are not indigenous. Their whole history is a lie . Harvey
Emphatically no! It is racially divisive, unconstitutional, a step towards an apartheid-like society. Robert
why should one group be so special as to hold ownership. we are all in this . Heather
No. No. No. No. Doug
Absolutely not , they should have NO more special rights than anyone else, otherwise you have tribal governance and who in their right mind would ever want that. Carolyn
History is being changed by this Government. They fail to see that New Zealand is for all New Zealanders – equally, not split into two groups – them and us. All New Zealanders have paid for these assets through their rates and taxes and have a right to own them in unison, not split amongst some. Leslie
They have been given two hundred million to get jabbed.That didn’t work, so how would you expect 3 waters to be a great success? Allister
The government have muddied the water by “taking” assets from a public funded community, a giving it to a minority group. Has nothing to do with treaty partnership. Tim
Absolutely NO. Water falls from the sky free for every person on earth. Moari have no more rights to water than anyone else. It is the life blood of every single th I ng on earth. If they get control of water are they going to be responsible for any floods or damage caused by water? Like hell they will. They can smell money in water,thats their aim Peter
Definitely NOT Ian
Water should owned by the nation & not a minority with a reckless history in managing assets prescribed to them fishing and a National Park to mention two. Veto rights to assets that were paid for by the tax and rate payers is undemocratic if not a crime. It is all money based & will, in time be sold to the highest bidder with no consideration to the majority. Resentment will fester as the tax and ratepayers will have to bear the burden of higher water charges while paying for on going administration, repairs and maintenance while expected to fund new investment while propping up yet another monolith that produces nothing but duplicate records or ?, maintained and paid for by ratepayers through individual Councils.. Brian
We are one people through intermarriage. Neville
Never– They are NOT indigenous people of NZ. This is a farcicle notion and must be halted. Ray
Nothing should be racially controlled Neil
All NZ people should be consulted and treated equally and no special rights given to anyone. I see by giving rights to iwi we will have more of a chance of slime coming out of our taps! They haven%u2019t looked after a lot of their resources A
Racism gone to the extreme. Allan
none what so ever. steven
Maori make up only 15% of the population. Carol
16% of the population and 50 % of the control. Does not compute. grant
Definately not Barbara
madness, send those trouble makers home where they come from Taiwan we are told. gerard
Water is for everyone. So basic. Who can believe this, our water being controlled by an ethnic group. Shame. Mark
We have democratically elected councils and there is no reason why maori folk could not be elected. They need to put forward candidates who are educated, mature, experienced and competent to make wise decions for their region. Pam
Council are doing a good job managing our water on a democratic basis on behalf of the ratepayers who have funded the cost of the infastructure. Chris
utter rubbish, needs to be Top of the list of things to be dismantled by the next Government. Lionel
No. End of story! Rex
Definitely not and nor should they have any involvement in, local government, health, conservation, corrections, justice, police, immigration, social welfare, agriculture, fisheries, and most certainly not finance. They, like the labour cult fail at everything, including looking after their own. I see no good reason why , if they want their own governance system, they should expect to have any access to the tax paid by those who do not wish to be included in their apartheid based agenda. Terry M
No. It is way past time that the anonymous few who claim to represent the various collection of warring tribes under the fiction of “Maoridom” were identified,, In my view there are just a few very rich part Maori folk who are behind this Treaty feast that has assumed a momentum all of its own. Name them. Expose them to the Maori in the street who have seen no benefit from the billons of settlement dollars. Geoffrey
Just more racism from this communist govt Ihaia
No, No, No, No, Never! Grant
None whatsoever — this is the real agenda by this dreadful Government and all will note our English language is being more and more bastardised as time goes on. This is either one country or it is not and the bullshit being spoken about past wrongs is also disturbing and resu;ts in more cliams under that grossly exaggerated document called the Treaty of Waitangi. It does appear however if you are suffering from self pity, human failure ending up with a massive chip on your shoulder you will do very well in NEW ZEALAND. Alan
Water belongs to all humans not to any one racial group Rob
No more,no less than you or me.Certainly not 50/50 governance with Maori or any other section of the community.NO.NO.NO. Peter
This is straight out political pandering as vote buying. It is racist, undemocratic to pass through without a referendum and Ardern and Mahuta have no evidential basis that it is what the majority of New Zealanders want or voted for. Mike
This whole issue is causing a divide between Maori and the rest of us, when it is really only the wealthy privileged iwi who will benefit from, the intended outcome of the lies and deceit this Government is producing to promote co-governance of all our assets. Their destruction of our Democracy is insidious, as it’s intent is to destroy our country as we know it. Sadly, many people do not understand what is going on or do not believe their role model – the “lovely Jacinda” would be involved in such a deceit.!! Mary
This is He Puapua p31,…levies on resource use where Maori have a clear interest if not strong claim to ownership, such as water Darrel
Maori already participate in our government in the same manner as any other special interest group. To give them more leverage than that is beyond disingenuous. It is an outright LIE and serves only to disenfranchise the majority. Gary
Part- Maori are only 15-17% of NZ population and with the UN Declaration of Indigenous People being misused to promote 50:50 Governance is simply prepostorous & NZ Voters have never given any positive mandate for this Liebour Govt to blindly & defiantly barge ahead with this He Pua Pua except for a “Ripped-Off” Election 2020. Bruza
Please note. THE Havelock North “infrastructure failing ” was not a failure at all. It was run-off contamination into the well from surrounding paddock runoff. A $2000 water proof bund would have prevented this. There should be a commission enquiry about this so that the facts are known. I Derek
This Maori govt. is out of control and put politely stinks. Iain
The right people for the job NOT preference by race. Helen
All people ought to have as say. Mary
No no no Bev
Most councils will know better Ted
This is a mischievous move by this labour government and must not be allowed. William
They are just ordinary NZers like the rest of us. The idea of a Treaty ‘partnership” is absolutely laughable. A bit like the people we call government these days.- it’s as though we have a bunch of inexperienced, ignorant kids trying to run the country. How they won the election is a total mystery to me. I only know one person who admits to voting for them! Rosemary
Can legal action be taken to settle the question of partnership once and for all? Alan
Definitely not! All part of undermining our democracy. A real threat that we must get rid of. Somehow! Dell H
We are all one in Democracy Cath
We need to go back to the Treaty and put it in the hands of the voters for ratification as to whether we should accept this as the founding document in N.Z Then the 2nd part should be a vote as to which version we accept. I am fed up with M.P.s making decisions without a proper mandate from the electors. John
Every council in NEW ZEALAND should vehemently oppose this attack on democracy. Local ratepayers should track those present elected councillors who are willing to give away ratepayer assets and ensure they are not re-elected in the next local body elections. Similar action should be accorded to those Mayors who show no backbone and who simply comply with the actions of this socialist government. Joseph
it should be decided between councils and govt Tom
NEVER Cedric
NO Pam
That little raddicule group should be dispersed to a far of Island where thay can fight themselves and leave us to get on with our lives Russell
What has happened to our Democracy? Even the Prime Minster should not change important events like water management. William
I don’t believe I should have any more say in anything other than in line with every other Kiwi person, why are they so special to this Government. I is separating us and it wont be pretty in the future. barbara
Definitely Not! Tony
Absolutely not. No, never!!! Jacinta Adern is out of control. Greig
Absolutely no role what so ever Anton
another manouver of the racist looney left labour government to divid the country allan
Leave it as it is now. Susan
Water assets should remain under local council ownership and control. Jacky
the water lakes in Auckland were built from rate payers money hence they are owned by the ratepayers of Auckland. The lakes were not there before the arrival of the European settlers so Maori have no rightful claim to them at all. Donald
Bloody helll NO Barry
Maori have hidden agendas and Three Waters is just one of them. 17% is Not a majority. Peter
All New Zealanders have an equal share in water. Why isn’t that hard to understand. Dennis
definitely not. Marilyn
Maori when they landed in NZ did not bring their own 30000 litre water tank on their waka to have their own water supply , Water was here the same as when the Europeans arrived , even Captain Cook landed on Kaiti Beach Gisborne. Ian
Any more moves toward apartheid in this country from the evil clowns in government and I’m moving to Australia! Pieter
Iwi has already messed up many things and money is NOT passing on to THEIR people. We, the taxpayer HAS to foot the bill. peter
Of course not! All they want is to oversee the resulting income streams. Folkert
It is a part of the steps to remove democracy from the NZ way of life keith
The water is everyones and not just one race’s Brian & Margaret
As a stakeholder, but alongside all the others and not 50% Paula
We are all doomed if we travel that road! J J
I have a view if the Maori want have the water then they should pay half the costs when it floods. so for instance if you house floods then insurance and the council pay one half and the Maori the other . you cant just cream of the money HaHaHa Les
We have got to stop this Government before it’s too late! Malc
NO,They can’t even look after anything, they are always looking for the next handout. Bruce
Never Wayne
Aparthied again from Cindy Gordon
Water should be as all business should be that is run by the best people available. Gender, ethnicity etc should not be part of the equation. Just the best people with the skill set for the job. Trevor
NO, NO, a thousand times NO!!!! Helen
Under no circumstances should any special privilege’s be extended to iwi, water is a natural free requirement for all worldly members of Earth. Not to be controlled by one racial group of people! Roy
No way ..should never be race based Carl
Why would they, do they not listen to the fish and chip wrapper upper we are a team of 5 million. So how could they have a special role to play or are they so special words confuse them. We should be safe if they are unable to get out the door to be vaccinated how would they get out of bed to go to a meeting. This country used to be one country and still is as far as I am concerned all we have to do is biff out Cindy the red and all get back to normal and live as one. rod
Absolutely not, they should have no more say in the matter than any other group people ie a church, a rugby club, a school …. what gives iwi any ‘special’ say in the matter. Tony
Why do politicians keep allowing themselves to believe the subtle deception that Maori have a “special” connection to nature?! Jane
A great big NO Dean
Don’t think maori should be granted different privileges in a free society. By definition that is racism. ash
There is no significant need for change. Mal
They are to dangerous and stupid to be allowed control of anything. Mike
definitely not – we are meant to be ONE people Lorraine
A very BIG NO Don
A No brainer and beyond words. sheryl
Just because all so called Maori are only part Maori, they should not have any special role in anything. Andrew
I would like Nanaia Mahuta to substantiate her claim that – iwi have ‘significant expertise and experience … in resource management, infrastructure development and water issues’ — with supporting evidence. Karen
Certainly not. Fresh water belongs to all New Zealanders. Colin
Control of the nation’s water should not be decided on the basis of race. It is an appalling concept. James
The govt seems determined to decide our country Raymond
Water cannot be owned by anyone it falls from the sky and makes its way back to the sea it cannot be owned. Dennis
maori are only 4% of the population the other 12% are more other races than maori so do not have any rights to controlling water in NZ graeme
definitley no no no she is up to her communist ways by using the divide and rule eric
This is out and out RACISM DAVE
Absolutely not. Graeme
absolutely not, if appointments are based on race. Gordon
It should continue to be managed through the peoples representative, the local Council. Judith
Under no circumstances should a minority have control over assets which they have not constructed nor paid for. THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY! It reeks of racism by a government hell bent on favouring a minority. Peter
No sector of society, especially a minor group of society, should have the right to have control of an essential necessity of life, one that is currently owned by everyone in the country and managed on their behalf by regional councils. Dougal
There is no place for unelected veto holders in our democracy Gordon
Iwi elite, who we are talking about here, have proven, time & again, to be no more than opportunist GOLD DIGGERS. This is just another free ride opportunity. All part of He-puapua, which stems from Nationals signing of UNDRIP. I would be absolutely in favour of Maori being in charge of the water, provided they guaranteed payment for all repair work & compensation to those who needed it, in the event of a major flood. NOW THAT AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN, IS IT.. A.G.R.
VOTE NO CONFIDENCE IN THIS APARTHEID FORMING GOVERNMENT. WE ARE ONE PEOPLE THE CITIZENS OF NEW ZEALAND!!!! WHO ARE THE CHOSEN MAYORS -( 3 WATERS), WHO ARE THE DEMOCRATICALLY NOMINATED MAORI REPRESENTATIVES. RATEPAYERS NEED TO KNOW THE NAMES OF THE GOVT CHOSEN DECISION MAKERS!!!!! JULZ
NZ is a multi cultural nation,we are at one together,no matter what colour or creed we still have the same colour of blood. NZ district councils have invested huge money into water infrastructure,water belongs to the local communities,Government water asset valuations is an attempt to buy or rob NZ water rights at a substantial discount with little governance ability to improve water supply efficiently.This an asset grab and should be a major policy directive for action leading up to the next election.Put simply the public won’t stand for it. simon
This whole 3 Waters/Co-government issue is a deceitful con to the majority of New Zealanders who vote this lot in. Obviously people could see National were in no shape to run the country with their own problems. With not many options and with Jacinda appearing to in most part had handled the Covid pandemic reasonably, people voted Labour. I have just learnt prior to writing this that Labour on the 4th June, Cabinet agreed behind closed doors to mandate 3 Waters and kept it quiet for 5 months. What happened to a transparent government? They have lied to the greater majority of voters in 2020. I hate to think what else is going on behind closed doors?? No way should we just hand over 50% control of 3 Waters to iwi. No bloody way. Chris
water belongs to everyone and not to maori. nobody owns water. John
NO!!! Mark
Giving iwi any water management roles is an absolute outrage. I am Ngai tahu and a microbiological consultant. This will end in disaster for everyone but the maori elite! Roseanne
IT WILL BECOME RACIST CONTROL JOHN
Having had a personal involvement in the upgraded Rotorua Lakes work done in recent years, I know that Maori were involved and benefited from the work done there. Their co- operation and inclusion was a credit to all concerned and the results speak for themselves. In a word the work is done and continues on an ongoing basis where repeated work is maintained annually, to sustain the good work already done. Why the hypocrites continue to overlook such improvement and pick out more minor isolated discrepancies bewilders me. Barry
Planet Earth is the “Water Planet ” …. Chris
No-one should have control over essential assets other than local councils. Water, rubbish, roading and similar assets belong to NZ, not some jumped up misguided bunch of opportunists – it must be stopped Nichael
This is simply a money and power grab. Alan
Never ! Bryan
What benefit would they have to offer Robin
It is regarding New Zealanders, not a select group. Rodger
I’m sure they already fill expert roles already , should they have the capabilities – just as any ordinary Kiwis will. We are one – not two peoples tony
There is no reason how or why this would improve water outcomes for New Zealanders. Maria
Corruption, setting up a few Maori leaders to create a monopoly. As such, it will enable them to charge for the scarce resource. Bob
Absolutely not. john
Maori do not have “significant expertise or experience in resource management and infrastructure development and water issues”, but they do have expertise in asset theft! john
It’s a ludicrous suggestion that iwi should have greater rights concerning water rights than councils & ratepayers Margaret
Useless labour bullshit bloody useless Allan
We must resist this racist government and its totalitarian methodologies Tom
they are totally incapable and biased. Coral
Councils should retain control of their own assets Frank
Totally medievil concept !~! Ross
Without sounding racist unfortunately most Maori cannot look after themselves, Their sections or land so how are they going to look after New Zealand’s fresh water interest’s. This Three Waters grab is to gain control and rip off all non Maori citizens of New Zealand and must be crushed at all costs. Wayne
Definitely not, who do they think they Are! Ann
I don’t think that it is necessary. Kim
Absolutely not. Martin
The suggestion that Maori be given more rights than other citizens is outrageous. Richard
Absolutely not. Why would we give control of water to the most dysfunctional sector of our society. Philip
Absolutely no way this should happen what a sham Alan
Iwi should have no special role more than anyone else who pay rates. Local councils should be democratically elected with anyone able to stand for council. Jacquetta
To say a particular race is better suited than another to govern a publicly owned asset is racist Shane
totally unjustified.-one people one country Nicholas
NO. This is diabolical for the future of ONE New Zealand. This seems to me to be a determined extension of MMP List members push to take over New Zealand and covert NZ into Maori controlled super tribes. – The original Treaty of Waitangi was signed – using X s – as Maori had no written language – to bring peace to New Zealand. Sadly NZ now has massive division which democratically elected governments should actively discourage. Stuart
It is pure theft!! Helen
No select race is above GOD, and SELECT IWI have been given enough RACE PRIVILEGE, PERKS , stolen from hard working kiwi taxpayers, ENOUGH !!! David
So when did they speak to the good Lord and demand that the water that falls is theirs by special rights???. If too much falls will they pay for the cleanup???? Lizzy
No I don’t Muriel
What next? Mark
none whatsoever. we are one people Colin
We should all be the same not colour coded Lynn
We must fight for our democratic rights – NZ does not need or want social division Denise
Definitely not! Trevor
Sadly, one needs only look at the statistics — If Maori generally were such hot shot managers of anything why do they feature so prominently in the negative side of the social ledger? Philip
Can someone help me understand how a Government can pursue this track when ” constitutionally impossible for Crown to form a partnership with subjects”. ? Is the partnership with a different party??? lynda
Absolutely NOT Water Management and expertise doing a very good job as it is. Karen
Racism t it’s ugly best. Iwi haVE NO MORE EXPERTISE THAN i DO. ian
Why the Hell are we giving in to these Maori Racist who want to steal assets that they have never contributed to and just sit on their fat arsess and call the shots .This Government and the prime minister with the support of the likes of that arsehole Wille Jackson and the Maori caucass should be charged with treason as they are turning the country into another Zambezee ken
Rate payers should have the control of their assets built up over generations peter
I agree with the councils Pamela
Definitely no, no, no. They can be elected like everyone else. Irene
20 people on the board comprising 2 officials, 9 Mayors and 9 Iwi is too many for getting an efficient and timely process. John
Maori want full control of our water …3 waters has to be rubbished its theft! Gillian
No No No. They are a racist, unelected group with no political standing.. It is well over the time for New Zealand to get back to one law for ALL. NOT a racial divided country. It was a very bad move to allow the formation of a Maori group to have a political Maori party. This racist party has blinkers. They are only interested in THEIR people to the exclusion of all others.. That is NOT democracy. Parliament should rule for ALL without favour. New Zealand is going down a very dangerous path. Towards separatism Graeme
Iwis are private organisations and are not governmental bodies and should not have any special role in water management. John
The whole thing stinks of racism. Mike
Maoris have unfortunately branded themselves as non-productive citizens by their record of pursuing handouts from the public purse, falsifying their history of intertribal warfare from which they were rescued by the English settlers, they killed and ate one another and were treacherous to deal with. Nowadays over half of the inmates in prison can call themselves Maori, the bulk of firearms offences seem to come from Maori, the Mongrel Mob, a Maori gang are probably the largest organised hard-drugs suppliers in the country and there are many examples of theft of tribal monies by their own folks. Clearly with so many examples of lack of worthy principles these people are by the records of a large number of their members not the least trustworthy to run affairs of local government. A great shame for these people to burden the majority of good citizens of some Maori descent with this legacy. Edgar
If iwis have a right to be consulted, what about the rest of New Zealand. Are iwis the only groups that have “the significant expertise and experience……… in resource management, infrastructure development, and water issues? Pieter
Iwi have NO role in anything Norm
Racism should not be part of New Zealand, either now or in the future. Russell
Absolutely NOT! Frank
Absolutely not. They are in no way in the majority and in fact in history attacked and ate each other! This is absolute tribal communistic nonsense Shaun
Another move towards Apartheid Cole
No never. We are a democracy which means one law for all. 3 waters under Maori control is an insult and breech of democratic HUMAN RIGHTS Peter
Water is life and he who control’s it controls life. We cannot let unaccountable Rangatira Maori have control and profit off our water. This will neither benefit non-Rangatira Maori nor the rest of us. Brenton
This is New Zealand. One people working together for the wellbeing of all David
Iwi Maori elite are looking to financially empower themselves by deceiving the 83% majority into agreeing to the apartheid 3 Waters. It is part of the Maori Iwi elite COUP to rule this country. Ardern had no right to be chairing the recent forum on democracy when she is backing the Maori takeover of our democracy. Brenda
My understanding of the treaty is that we all have equal rights,no less no more Greg
3 waters should be dumped as it current objective is for a group to seek control of all NZ water. NZ currently has the 5th best water system in the world. Peter
We are all equal. Andrew
Why should they – we are New Zealanders and should all have equal rites. Lois
No more than any other democratically elected and/or appointed New Zealander. Insist on one rule for all Don
If they can’t own it why should they control it John
Utter rubbish. Iwi have shown countless times that they have no ability to run anything properly. It will be a plug hole for money. OURS> Darren
If it is to become a them and us situation I wouldn’t want to be around to help clean up the destruction.This take over by stealth and a huge amount of dishonesty has to be the most traitorous thing a nz Govt has ever done. John
All NZ`ers together Leonard
It defies logic. Resign now Ms Adern before you inflict serious harm on this beautiful Country, New Zealand !!! Richard
Iwi shouldn’t have any more say than any other New Zealander. We are living in a so called Democracy. Neil
Major corruption being perpetrated by our Government. Mike
one country one people Gerhard
All Management of New Zealand should be equally done by and for all New Zealanders. Andrew
What a bloody cheek! “Maori” iwi should control water management which they have never paid for, have any understanding of, and nor have they contributed towards. The water infrastructure in this country is the lawful property of ratepayers. Let’s work through this, step by step:. Number 1: Who are, in reality, Maori? What is the number, if any, of full-blooded Maori? Seventeen per cent CLAIM TO BE Maori, perhaps because they “feel Maori” or they have some percentage (perhaps quite a tiny one) of Maori blood. So why are they claiming to be “Maori”? The most likely obvious answer is that by this claim they can get on the gravy train and demand free handouts and at times these handouts are outrageously over-generous, and paid for by the taxes of real working New Zealanders. It is time this rort is stopped. It is not to say that all Maori are in the rort but the few who are need a sharp halt. Number two: The wording of the real Treaty of Waitangi (yes, the real one rather than that incredible pie in the sky version the Maori supremacists keep talking about) is worded fairly clearly and simply and largely unambiguously. No mention there of a “partnership” between Maori and the Crown and indeed such a partnership would not be legally possible. The childish nonsense of it shows the mentality of the twerps who are citing it. Number three: Jacinda Ardern, Prime Minister of our current Parliament, made no mention – not a hint – of her intentions before the election but since the election has undemocraticly issued a series of orders that have seriously damaged New Zealand’s economy and fed the Maori supremacist demands towards running the country as stone-age lords. These guys hide their faces and try to reach their ends by manipulating weak others such as Ardern. To get back to reality and prevent a disastrous pile of damage would probably require the present government to be thrown out and an immediate fresh election in the hope that a replacement government would sensibly dump any harmful legislation the present one has already installed and proceed to get the country running properly however there is no lawful way I know that this could happen. New Zealanders will probably need to bite the bullet and let this present disastrous regime do its worst until the time of next election, when we hope some of the damage can be undone and we can get back to working and living, and enjoying, our great country once more. We need to take the warning never to let some horror like Ardern into the driving seat again. The Labour Party has a reasonably decent history but any Labour candidate from here on would have a lot to live down after the tenure of Ardern and her Maori supremacist masters. Rob
No Iwi shouldn’t have a ‘Special’ role I think it would be fine for Iwi to possibly be involved in the process but in my opinion only to the % Percentage of Maoris that live in NZ. frank
No way. A veto power means they are in control in perpetuity. Stating that iwi make up 17% of the NZ population is ‘generous.’ It is more like 7%. Half of Maori vote from the general electorates. Why? Because they believe in democracy! Paul
Iwi involved will have people with no understanding of water sciences and their culture input is likely to be based on superstition. Doug
Definitely NO Allan
Definitely No! – any “special role” that they claim for anything is based solely on the “Treaty Partnership” lie which should be discounted out of hand! Scott
Water belongs to no one and Iwi have no more right to its management than any other New Zealanders. Doug
Stealing ratepayers assets to give to people with a few drops of Maori blood. A travesty of justice. Alan
One Flag, One name for the country, One law for all, we are all NEW ZEALANDERS. Do not divide this country, because we will all regret it if we do. Graham
No. Why should they? They couldn’t manage the Urewera national Park anyway. Maori are not indigenous, they were just here before the rest of us. Why should they have the biggest say? Sheila
WAWATAM—–What a waste of time and money! Graeme
this proposal can not be allowed to proceed. It is undemocratic & not in the best interests of the majority of NZ’s Evelyn
I have had enough of this devisive and race based government. Maori do not have any special rights to water or anything else. Allan
They should not have ANY special rights !! Maurice
Race must not be a determinant of how water is allocated George
Absolutely Not! Albert
Absolutely not. We are supposed to be in a democracy. Dianne
No body, but no body owns water. What I fail to understand is why our radical Maori population believe they have the God given right to even contemplate such a move. Put it down to greed, there cannot be any other explanation. Words fail me. chris
They can’t even manage themselves, let alone water! It would be a disaster! Yvonne
Water is for all New Zealanders. Sue
Please get rid of this PM and her government now we can’t wait till next election as NZ will be totally destroyed Dianne
It’s not democratic ! colin
Tribal Governance will bring problems in the future of NZ. Pierre
Not at all, why should they? Water comes from the sky, no-one owns it! You could argue that Church Groups could also make a claim on water, as it comes from God! Totally ridiculous! The only people who should be involved in planning upgrades to water services, should be Council staff who work in that sector, any any professional/engineering people brought in as needed. Hugh
“We are all now one people” I see no reason why Iwi should have any more control over our waterways other than through the normal democratic processes that are open to all New Zealanders. Peter
Definitely NO!!! It is unthinkable what could and probably will happen if it is allowed to proceed. Don
It is almost unbelievable that any P.M. would promulgate such a suggestion let alone carry her caucus with her. Where is the National party? Richard
There is no place for race based politics in New Zealand John
ALL New zealanders should be consulted about what this government is trying to push through!! Dominique 
Unreal david
Water belongs to NZers, which Maori come under. It should be left to the Councils to manage not some select committee. Iwi have already tried to steel the foreshores without success and they are trying to do this as well. The Government is buying the Maori votes to stay in power. Trevor
Theft and racism abounds with this vile government Peter
We are all New Zealanders. This government is operating a dictatorship. Stop fostering separatism and lets get back to NZ equality for all Stewart
why should they are not we meant to be one people David
We are all New Zealanders and giving one ethnicity 50% control over public assets is nothing short of a racist act – something that this deceitful Labour Govt under Ardern is becoming well practised at. dave
Certainly not. We are one people and no separate group, undemocratically elected, should have a non-proportional power in any government operations that are so important to every single person in the country. As for thinking a government run entity can be more efficient than what we have now with local democratically elected representatives being responsible for our owned 3 waters, defies understanding and reality. Keith
Water management should be done by all the people through the democratically elected council or area bodies Jens
ABSOLUTELY NOT. This “unrepresentative elite embittered maori swill” in parliament are dangerous and need to be exposed for what they are. Remember the “TROJAN HORSE” that Dear Leader has given a free hand to to set about destroying this country in the introduction of APARTHEID. Tim
As usual Muriel has it right June
Every New Zealander gets the opportunity to vote for those best able to represent their values. That is being removed. What’s the opposite of democracy? Graham
Water management is a New Zealand responsibility NOT iwi Don
No legal basis to “Nationalalise” council assets (ipso Facto), Samuel
It is pure racism Roger
This is a social democracy now with more state control at the expense of the majority view Bryan
This is a step too far. Kath
No need for change to a system that has worked well for many years Ian
NO A MILLION TIMES, IWI SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY MAJOR CONTROL OVER ANYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY SIMPLY ON THE GROUNDS THAT THEY ARE ONLY 16% OF THE POPULATION, THE WATER DOES NOT BELONG TO ANYONE GROUP OR PERSON IT BELONGS TO EVERYONE OF US AS KIWIS. IT SHOULD BE LEFT UNDER GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL COUNCIL CONTROL. COLIN
This apartheid racist policy is an asset grb by a communist govt. In one 4 minute speech Jacinda used the word COMRADE 14 times,this tells it all Maurice
Absolutely not Moyra
This is another money grab guarantee Iwi will take a royalty from water once it is all under their control as it was declared some time ago Ian
More Adern racism & treason bud
1. They have no expertise and insufficient education action 2. It is not democratic.. 3. They only want money 4. Jacinda will destroy our country Cin
Why should they? John
Good heavens no. Is this Maori’s new Renaissance of a different kind ? I call it for what it is, “Maori” is back is back to its old tricks. This time the flavour is “representation” : Representation Cannibalism ! Hendrik
publicly owned assets should not become a milch cow for a minority john
What ‘expertise and experience’ can maoris possibly have in water management? They were effectively stone-age people before the arrival of those nasty Europeans with their health care, laws, civilised codes of conduct, water treatment plants and so on. Be aware that the only possible justification for ‘co-governance’ is as the first step to full ownership and governance, but like all their moves, it has to be done by stealth. TOBY
Time this divisive behaviour by Labour ended. Stephen
one country one people brian
Iwi cannot even legitimately claim to represent a ‘majority’ of Maori (whoever they are) so why are they being given rights over the true majority (New Zealanders); it makes no sense at all Michael
No way and never. Water is a public resource to be available for all. David
Apartheid Brent
Absolutely not. This leads to tribal elitism and therefore dangerous state of control of NZ water. Galina
The water is for ALL New Zealanders. Nobody owns it. The iwi did not put any of the infrastructure in place, either, so they should not be paid for any rights. Glenn
It is Maori intent to take over much more than 3 waters . Let’s stop this onslaught now. dennis
No way this is so undemocratic and racist. Paul
None whatsoever.. Councils do an excellent job and we pay a fair price, DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN or VOTE FOR THOSE WHO WILL SCRAP IT. Dick
That is why we have local elected councils, to work on everyone’s behalf Murray
The majority have contributed nothing, they have been taking since 1840 Hone
One country – one people. Once we were all classed as Kiwi’s, now we are heading for a dangerous racial divide. Alan
When will all this dishonesty & apartheid cease??? Most govts are dishonest & deceitful but this lot take the cake!!! They rule by confusion!! She is PM by default & her lack of life experience is certainly showing. Thank god Chris Luxon has stated his opinion on co-governance….roll on 2023 and the demise of this lying lot & their activist cohorts! They are destroying this once proud country!! Ron
Do not lose local control. Beverly
absolutely ridiculous ross
This is a terrible Bill Labour is forcing on all New Zealanders trying to force us to give up our assets we have paidor with very high rates.IT MUST BE STOPPED Ian
absolutely no look at the nonsense at the so called Northern Boarder robin
The water falls from the sky through natural processes and is owned by no one. The infrastructure which the I Want It brigade is seeking to control was unheard of in this country prior to European settlement. Iwi have no justifiable claim to water or the infrastructure that goes with it! Alan
It is apartheid by stealth and will cause racial war. mike
Do the powers that be really understand apartheid and its consequences ? This is representation cannibalism. Henk
out right aparthied brian
jawhat is proposed is straight out racism and communism, and should not be allowed to destroy our democrasy,even my maori mates are nervous !!cinda is a fool,and should retire. norman
No as in NO Garth
Water comes from the sky & NO-ONE owns the sky.ASK LUXTON if he,ll have the guts to REVOKE jacindas maori 16% laws shes made & to READ the treaty & SEE that NO PARTNERSHIP was EVER mentioned.NEW ZEALAND is 84% & we are ALL EQUAL & DEMOCRACY NEEDS TO RETURN TO NZ not OUR ASSETS given to 16% but maori treated like us 84% EQUALLY. Cindy
ABSOLUTELY NOT..ITS NOT THEIRS..! Dave
Proportional representation is OK David
Suitably qualified engineers and scientists, directed by a democratically elected local council only should oversea our water supply. norm
Absolutely not especially since they will not be voted in. This is more Maori racism by the radical group Gareth
I was wondering if we could claim the rain? linda
ABSOLUTELY NOT – EVER! Sylvia
Not at all. Their rights should be no different from anyone else’s. Dorothy
NO way not in any think they are not the Indigenous of NZ. Ron
Racist and not in the best interests of New Zealand Ray
No way Terry
They should be welcome to participate on a democratic basis to manage the resource and benefits for all NZ’rs equally. Murray
Hapu and whanau were traditionally more important to Maori than Iwi. And because of poor average educational standards Iwi do not have specialist knowledge to do the job. They do have the same rights as anyone else to be heard about their needs and concerns. Kelvin
Absolutely NO Their basic Culture does not include any form of conservation This government is hell bent on creating a divided country. WHY?????. john
No.Thay are just New Zealanders and should have no more privlagers than the rest of us john
ABSOLUTELY NOT Murray
Stop the division. We need to be one people and one law for al. Jenny
Mahuta is a thief! The partnership BS needs to be called out and shoved in her face. Barbara
It ain’t broke, so don’t fix it!! Councils are doing a good job, and should continue to do so. Lack of funding is the main problem, Government could assist in this area. Colin
NO WAY water is for every New Zealander no matter what their color/race/creed. Carl
It’s a racist scam and anti democratic. Smacks of apartheid. Bruce
No we are all New Zealanders with equal rights and it must stay that way. Mike
The entire He puapua document should be destroyed before it destroys NewZealand. Racist and divisive. Elizabeth
The problem has always been lac k of money to update and improve reticulation of the 3 waters systems. Government nis intending borrowing all the money to do this. The Local Authorities already have the management and contracting resources to carry out the work. All they need are the financial resources to do the work. The new authority will only offer personnel more money and new utes and carrhy out the planning, recommendations, reviews, construction and reporting without audit. John
Always call them “tribes” NOT “iwi”! Bruce
Absolutely not, iwi cannot look after themselves as evidenced with the covid injections. They also tell lies about their past and therefore can never be allowed to have positions of authority. In addition they are not in partnership. Get rid of this communist prime minister and her cohorts at the earliest Tom
undemocratic, unnecessary, theft Giles
The Iwi should have some representations but only by democratically elected people Bryan
No means No Mack
Absolutely not! Alan
Leave it as it is, it is ‘owned’ by rate payers, not any iwi. Everything they touch fails, the top level get richer and all the other ‘iwi’ remain entrenched. Rod
No they are only 15% of population yet are trying to control the other 85 % at the 85% cost with no accountability John
Just another example of the Socialist agenda of power to the Maori elite not to the tax payers of New Zealand. People do not trust a government that is blatently lying. Paloma
Iwi will have made very little financial contribution to any water supplies in this country. I have been drinking my tap water for years and am still well Elsa
NZ needs to have a real discussion about who we are. Are we all Kiwis or are we to be broken up into tribes. Peter
NO. Just like they should have no special role in any other part of our society. They are part of New Zealand and are entitled ONLY to the same rights as every other Kiwi – nothing more! Derek
The most privilieged race in the world are becoming more and more used to their elevated status and are becoming more and more needy as a consequence. It has to stop. Mike
Water is for all New Zealanders David
If New Zealand is NOT Careful it’s on the way to having an Apartheid system DEMOCERY MUST RULE New Zealand WILLIAM
No way these tribal racists should have control over anything except their own primitive culture. John
Water like the air we breath are on the same plain. Both are vital to life. As such the fundamental ownership can never be actually owned by any human being or any specific human group of any kind. This also goes for the absolute control of air and water. So the answer is an obvious NO. Garry
Te Paupau should be challenged strongly and urgently by opposition through the courts. Pamela
Its time our we needed a new “face” labor leader came clean. What is her real agender and beliefs. What she is proposing and causing will as time goes on cause huge division within the country. What they are scheming is part of a long syterm plan by elite Maoris to gain wealth through stealth . Tribes alraedy have huge benefits over businesses with their no tax businesses. Who can compete against that . The old storey, a squeaky wheel gradually is excepted as fact by the masses and if a claim is made enough it becomes accepted as correct or fact. This labor mob must be voted out asap. alan
Absolutely not.. there is no place in 21 st century NZ for Tribalism and the disproportionate assignation of power and control to a non democtatically elected Maori elite who have consistantly sought to enhance their own status and wealth, often at the expense of the Iwi that they puport to represent. Shame also on the current Labour government who in a few short years have set race relations between Maori and the rest of NZ back by about 50 years! Rob
Absolutely no!!!! Joe
nearly all iwi are mixed european anne
We need to move on from the past as people we can all claim wrongs done to our ancestors NZ is a multicultural society that is equal not a two nation democracy julie
Absolutely Not Tony
This Government is most dangerous for the future of aa NZ. They control the media narrative and are using propaganda to divide this nation. Ardern and her bunch of miscreants are hell bent on deceiving this nation. They have to be brought to task by someone – but who? We now have all parties in the Beehive agreeing to pass a law which forbids putting the sex of a baby on the birth certificate. Don’t they realise that there are only male and female, any attempt to alter that in later life can only be a perverted deviancy from the natural order of things. At this rate the fall of Rome will be nothing compared to the collapse of our civilisation. Kevin
The CLEAR intent of the Treaty was to ensure Maori were not denied access to things, not to give them racially preferential advantage / ownership! Andy
Everybody owns water! Murray
Claims that Treaty of Waitangi implies a partnership between crown and maori are incorrect. And nowhere has it been inferred that maori have any rights in respect of water other than as new zealanders. Peter
All such roles have an underlying motivation of exercising power – ultimately complete power. Jack
Absolutely no. Originally I thought we were one country and one proud group of citizens and then along comes a Marxist government that intends to pit Maori against the rest of us. Albyn
If only the media would stop only highlighting the asset loss to ratepayers AND NOT EVEN MENTIONING THE LOSS OF DEMOCRACY FOR RACE BASED POWER GRAB. Ardern is the most dishonest and dangerous politician we have had in my 70 years of interest. Creed
Definitely not. Everything to do with water or the environment should be handled by councils and DOC. If we give them the power our water etc will definitely deteriorate- going on past experience of Maori taking over the running if things they are only interested in the money. Muriel
Their track record shows they are incapable. Florence
To claim that the treaty has the status of an equal partnership between Maori and the crown is absolute rubbish Mark
None whatsoever as a separate group. They are either part of New Zealand or not.They know that they cannot govern without the majority of money coming from the majority of us. Iwi groups are not part of our governing structure. Murray
why?? This is one NZ for one and all!!!! miles
Iwi should not have special roles in anything. The grassroots Maori would be badly affected by such a decision. Election day can’t come soon enough. Judith
The current system caters for all New Zealanders Peter
The principles of democracy and fairness to all should be upheld in all Government decision making or it is not our government at all. Harvey
Our council spent 50 mil up grading our water and the govt want to give 3 mil to compensate under 3 waters. Lairs and thieves no way. Stephen
Once again Iwi in my mind have no understanding of today, as a whole they are only interested in whats in it for their iwi ( financial compensation) It would be a never ending battle of control … james
We are one people so special iwi rights are anti-democratic Philip
We are one people, one nation. Giving control of water to an exclusive group based on race is apartheid in action. Susan
No not corporate iwi, they are part of the problem, if we got back to the Treaty of Independence 1835 we could progress Wayne
One country one people why the sepratisim Phil
New Zealanders are fools if they ever trust a Labour government again. It has no commitment to genuine democracy or to the principle of equality under one law for all. Denis
We are one people. Full stop. No question about that! William
This issue has concerned me for ages. Even if a majority group is given more rights than a majority it’s still undemocratic. Michael
Insane and racist Thomas
Absolutely NOT. Janine
We are one people one nation and not two tribes, them and Us. Lindsay
Definitely NOT Arthur
Are we ONE PEOPLE or not !! This is just another SCAM for Maori Elite to CONTROL everything !! The choice is, either; we become one People OR we go to a total Apartheid. geoff
The management of water should not be in the hands of one sector of the community regardless of that’s sector % of the population as a whole. Imagine the uproar if the management was put entirely in the hands of the sector which holds the greatest %. Sue
We are one country, one race, one colourblind nation John
Because it is a natural resource and we are a democracy all citizens should have equal rights over it and access to it. Brian
Absolutely not. This Labour Govt is out of control. Addrianne
I am glad to hear that at least one group is taking the Government to court on an issue. It is high time that both the idea that Maori are “indigenous” and are “partners” in the Treaty was once and for all taken to the Supreme court and cleared up. It is just a pity that we don’t now have the opportunity of taking such things to the Privy Council who would not be “tainted” on matters like this, as it is obvious that some local judges are. Ted
are we not all New Zealanders? Answer YES we are!! Wiremu
they should not be involved John
As I have said before once the treaty is interpreted as a partnership a never ending cash flow is turned on. This means they have 50% of all Government Bodies. The next step is to get the treaty into our constitution. If this happens they will have an eternal cash flow. This Government is heading in that direction. Dene
Unless they have been democratically elected for a specialised position clive
Hard to believe they are even thinking about it ?? constitutionaly all wrong Roger
no role whatsoever. Valerie
No evidence has been produced that the present system is broken. faulty maybe, The Govt has no mandate to rebuild the present system. Just repair what is faulty now. The proposal is totally illegal. 1 law for all. mike
Absolutely NOT. We need all NZers to wake up now before it’s too late if its not already. Tracey
Definitely not! I am becoming increasingly concerned about what is happening in government with this issue, and any other issue regarding Maori Kerin
Maori shouldn’t have a “special” role in anything in NZ. Their racist agenda in every part of NZ is becoming more apparent. Eliminating Maori seats in Parliament should be the start of stopping this crap. Maori immigrated to NZ and were over come by a stronger, more developed set of immigrants who charitably consented to Maoris survival. Tony
Racial discrimination Allisson
Absolutely not……leave it to the councils, they have the ratepayers backing and expertise! rick
NO! But it’s too late. The country is stuffed now.l All done behind closed doors and abetted by a compliant or paid media. Luxon’s leadership of the opposition is the sane Kiwis only hope and if you place your trust in politicians then it really if a truly forlorn hope indeed. Sad but true. Bruce
No one owns the water John
How is 14per cent of population allowed to claim ownership of water. Are they now God?? John
Definitely no. This shame is totally undemocratic and if passed it will end in a complete shambles. Warren
Hell no!! FloJo
God ,made the water so Iwi and no different than any other person at all. charlotte
NO Eddie
No more special than that of all NZers. Brian
What is so special about Iwi. They support gangs who pollute their own people and do absolutely nothing to stop it. Frank
It is nonsense that a relatively small % of the population by DNA should have 50% or more voting control of 100% legally owned Council assets. Jim
Of course not! They should not have a special roll in anything- just as the local golf club (which is a damned more democratic) has in anything. Time to emphasize democracy! Roger
Partnership = corruption Neil
Ref: “the principles of the treaty of waitangi as expressed by the courts”, at best they should only be allowed 12-15% partnership rrepresentation. Not 50% Bruce
They have been after this gravy train for years and see this as an answer to all their perceived problems. We as a nation are surrounded by it, it is a world wide and joined on and off shore. NO Ken
To say iwi have “significant expertise and experience iwi have in resource management, infrastructure development, and water issues.” Is clearly a farcical lie. Obviously they have no experience in infrastructure as non existed till the Europeans arrived! They also torched a great deal of the country and made several species extinct, in particular the moa. So how can they be more suited than non-maori to look after these. What a joke! Steve
Whoever controls the water controls the country Kevin
who owns the water is a nonsense, in the treaty we were equal so what is the motive behind it all ??????? John
what are we…idiots? My apologies but that was my first reaction on reading the question. Sharron
Definitely not! We should all be treated as equals in our own country and this point needs to be driven home, otherwise we will lose all our democratic rights to the iwi elite. Marg
We are all New Zealanders. The Three Waters process is undemocratic, based on lies and deceit in pursuit of a particular agenda of minority Iwi control of assets that belong to all New Zealanders. Margaret
It is racially divisive ivan
We are all nzers Lyn
No. Many thanks to Bruce Smith and Muriel for Fighting back against this evil corrupted Govt. Iwi are are New Zealanders and they signed the treaty in 1840 that gave them the same rights as British subjects. Read the book “one Sun In The Sky” (McQueen) Iwi will have a fight on their hands, they do not own the water or our assets. Labour cannot be trusted. Sam
Certainly NOT! Peter
How did Maori manage their waste water in 1700 to make them such an authority on the subject of sewage disposal today. Brian
We are one people Sue 
Surely there must be people in positions of power that can stop this disgusting move toward apartheid I have written to the Race Relations Commissioner Meg Foon (aka Bufoon) no response .Another Tooth Fairy bribe me thinks .Where are all the Anti TOUR protesters that protested against Apartheid ?? Professional WANKERS !! . Ray
The Labour Party is no longer a party for the workers. Ardern has become obsessed with all things ” Maori” so the elites are naturally taking advantage with Three Waters and He Pupua. One has to wonder at the wisdom and calibre of the opposition parties though who have allowed themselves to be manipulated into being sidetracked by the covid issue. We k ow what Ardern stands for so no surprises there. To me it is shameful that ordinary Kiwis have to fight this battle rather than a competent, courageous opposition political party. Janine
Water belongs to ALL New Zealanders Bill
Water and other resources should be managed by people with expertise in this area. if this was done transparently I would be very. surprised if some of maori origin. were not involved. I think national versus local is a valid question across resources like roads, prison, power, and water. Mike
Definitely not, but the bigger question is, how do thinking New Zealanders actually get the majority of NZers who don’t read or think coherently and get their whole decision making based on Cindy’s and her cohorts daily tripe. This tripe is rolled out by a media that’s reliant on payouts from Govt and is therefore reliant on telling their story to remain in their jobs. I’m at a loss to trying to think through the answer to my own question. I feel that we, as a nation, are on the brink and if there is nothing done very soon to stop what is happening, there will be no turning back because no party in waiting has the balls to stand up and say how it really is. Joseph
We are all one people. The water does not ‘belong’ to anybody. As a ratepayer I refuse to be controlled by a minority interest Dave
Absolutely not. The big lie that they are on partnership with the Crown is so false yet is not being challenged hard enough. The statement by Mahuta that iwi have the expertise to manage water assets is a falsehood. They can’t even manage their people to get vaccinated and are demonstrating their “expertise” in the way that they are managing Te Urewera, which has been closed for several months, and facilities have fallen into disrepair. Is that how they will manage our water assets? Kerry
HELL NO, NO AND NO G
None whatsoever. Water is the equal property of all New Zealanders. Gordon
It is a natural and national asset for all New Zealanders. Laurence
Nobody owns the water. To even suggest anything different is utterly ludicrous. Logan
Absolutely no control in any publicly owned asset. No private entity should be involved, particularly in water, an essential need for every New Zealander. Private business is simply that, and are concerned with the profit margins that should never be part of a PUBLIC entity. Govt could better employ people with the right expertise in water management (probably from overseas) to assist local councils on a maintenance program instead of wasting billions on a “Power take over” Rita
There is no place for any group to own or control water or any other assets in NZ. The irony with water being that it comes from across the Tasman and Antarctica BRUCE
This country was built by the British. Brandon
The very idea is a blatant miss use of power and a national disgrace. Wake up Kiwis! Don
Councils should be the ones to maintain & develop infrastructure. I suggest having councils in charge of their own water would (hopefully) focus their attention on water – rather than sail off into the sunset with grandiose inner-city sports stadiums… Tim
We are all equal. Janet
absolutely not Robin
Water rights should be retained as they are for all New Zealanders to enjoy equally, regardless of race, medical status, etc. All this may yet come down to another series of complaints to the human rights commission over exclusivity and denial of access to some people of natural services Trevor
No ! water is for all New Zealanders and any special role in the management of it should be through the democratic process. Lawrie
Greed and convenient interpretation of treaty. Terry
definetly no, Nev Kath
Local councils understand the needs for their own district. The local ratepayers have invested money into the needed infrastructure. Pam
It is racist move to give Maori control of an asset that is an integral part of life . with that Maori have control of us John
If maori were the most intelligent race of people we would not want them having control of anything, and only 12% having control of 85% is strait out dictatorship Colin
This 3 Waters debacle is based on lies and political deceit. All councils in Nz need to step up and loudly tell this lying government NO stop leaving this mess to just a few. Wendy
Ownership – by any group – is undemocratic for NZ. mary louise
Roles should not be determined by race/ethnicity, ‘who was here first’ or any belief system or ‘marginalisation’ status. Chris
They are NOT the government who is elected by the people. We are all one people and governance is by the people not part of the people Jacky
No unelected officials should hold power over New Zealand’s people or resources Craig
Absolutely NOT! All statistics in New Zealand show that the maori race is a total disgrace. Darryl
The Labour Government are giving into Maori demands with no regard for the rest of New Zealanders Noeline
Apartheid policy at play , all part of Jacindas attempt to give control to IWI Mark
a vote of no confidence in the current govt should gathered and this govt sacked. Rick
It is not what the treaty was about. Good faith bargaining from 1988. Now it is Jacinda’s hidden communist agenda to get her to the top of the UN. She has no interest in NZ or NZers. michael
Read and understand the Treaty -Iwi control and dominance is impossible. We are one people. Gerry
Any Maori involvement can only lead to dodgy dealings!! Bruce
Water belongs to no one except Mother Nature. Three Waters just another ploy to make the majority of us second class citizens in our birthland. Mary
Does one need to comment? Charles
What a disgrace this government is! Where are the unions and Labour backbenchers on this? Have they no spine at all? Tony
The reasons are well set out in Dr Newman’s article. This is total in-caucus activists and external elitist-activists driven rort on all other New Zealanders, including non-aligned Maori. It is a contrived governance control, asset seizing, exploitation in perpetuity power grab by Maori activists bent on self-enrichment Hugh
No No No Felicity
No,No,No,No,Not Ever, Mark
NO! Their aim is by claiming to be a “Treaty Partner” (No such thing exists) they can impose an IWI tax ALL water. Wake up New Zealand Bob
Iwi are not, and can never be allowed to become a special ruling class in New Zealand. To promote a dubious treaty interpretation as requiring partnership is a disgraceful abuse of democracy. It is simply not acceptable to move away from one person, one vote. Equality has been and should remain a foundation for a successful country. Peter
Never, never ,never…ever !!! You cannot trust this Governments blatant lies….. Peter
They should have no special role in anything in this country. The “real” treaty of Waitangi (a very short 3 paragraph document) makes absolutely no mention of co-governance D
We must take a stand now on this racist grab of Water, Health, Local Government under the guise of a “Treaty”. Enough is enough the gravy train is live and well. Errol
This regime consists of a number of rather suspect characters devoid of any real skills and driven by ideology. Under the cover of this pseudo pandemic they have exploited their position of power and they will continue to do so in the next two years. No matter what the cost or what the damage to our country and our society will be. This criminal outfit can be compared with a cloud of locusts ravaging the land and when there is nothing left to feed on they simply will move on and do damage elsewhere. To be honest, I fear for New Zealand’s future and I would have never expected to see this country deteriorating at such a frightening pace. Welcome to totalitarianism. Michael
We should all be treated equally not seperated Paula
If there wasn’t money to be made they wouldn’t be interested anyway. KT
This water grab featured throughout the whole of 2017! The hints were started then. Kevin
We should be a ‘team of 5 million’ all the time, not only when it suits the government to use this line. What we shouldn’t be is a team of 15% of the population having the right to veto the remaining 85% population. Tina
Never should we allow an elite minority to control what the ratepayers own and pay for. Marion
All they think about is getting something for nothing Mike
Water is a natural resource given by Nature that should available equally to everyone and not controlled by a single cultural group John
Only with the water they harvest THEMSELVES, for their OWN NEEDS. Warwick
Absolutely NOT. I’m so sorry but I’m becoming more & more Racist. I have never been this way ever! Teresa
Unfair undemocratic Murray
Racist policy has no place in the World. Coral
WAKE UP NEW ZEALAND! Peter
Absolutely ridiculous, one country one people Graeme
The whole idea is just racist, we are hating to see our country being turned into an apartheid regime ruled by PART maoris Charles
Our democracy is being destroyed by this government. Liz
Maori should no special role in this country – period. Graham
It is farcical to even consider it. The current system is not broken and 3 waters is theft on a grand scale. Lies and deceptions. John
No conspiracy here! The United Nations Agenda 21 is in play. Jacindas globalist agendas are racist. Divide and conquer! If she forces this…. we the people have the powers…. No one should pay their rates. Mike
I remember several years ago the greed in the voice of a northern Maori I met at a tango when he said “we will get one power station and the lot.”exact words. The three waters echoes that control attitude.. Catherine
Tribal control of our critical Three Waters assets? Total garbage. Since when did iwi have hydrological skills and qualifications? Just ask the Moa about maori conservation skills and experience. Chris
Water management along with all ratepayer decisions has to be made democratically by all New Zealanders not one minority. Jane
Water comes from the sky’s. Iwi do not and never had any rights to the sky’s. What next, will they want to own the air that we breath. Jim
Definitely not. We are one country, one people. No one should have special rights. Chris
Maori are not indigenous to NZ they landed in boats a few hundred years before the settlers did. Kevin
I don’t accept this belief regarding Iwi is true and wonder from where it (the belief) came? “because of the significant expertise and experience iwi have in resource management, infrastructure development, and water issues.” Paul
Ridiculous and racist. Louise
Absolutely NOT. Lenise
Sadly we need more of this to wake up the many sheeple in NZ to what these pathetic liars in parliament are up to.. And Covid is a perfect and timely excuse to distract people from their undemocratic agenda. This Labour government will go down as the worst in the history of NZ! Jan
Water came down from the sky yesterday, it belongs to know one. Iwi have been after water for years, they can’t claim ownership over everyone else. Martyn
no way Steve
Ultimately; who is behind all these reforms?. Sam
Definitely not! Lee
The idea is preposterous, insane, has nil merit. Richard
What Mahuta is trying to pull off is a blatant rort verging on corruption. pdm.
The whole Labour plan is insane and illegal !! Tony
This is a naked attempt through patently dishonest double talk and bluff to gain Maori tribal elite control and therefore the rights of ownership over one our country’s most significant natural assets. One which is an essential resource and service to our very existence Murray
Most people in NEW ZEALAND would tell you that WE are ALL one people and should ALL live as NEW ZEALANDERS. ONE PEOPLE! William
Water should be managed by elected local councils and no one else. iwi should not have 50% representation in anything. they are not a treaty partner. Lynne
absalotly NO we will all be buggered if this country is run by IWI including Maori people, One Land One people is the only way. time to put a stop once & for all to the TREATY OF WAITANGI & the lies it has morphed into Nigel
Only those voted into council should have a role. Barbara
The average Maori gets nothing while all tribes have billions in assets Niall
No ethnic privileges should exist in New Zealand, especially when that particular ethnic group do not pay any rates in some regions Erin
Maori should have no special role in anything. John
Absolutely not. In my experience as a visitor to remote areas of NZ chasing trout, iwi’s biggest contribution to our waterways is using them as a dumping ground ……… Dave
Stop the division of our country Shirley
I have seen over many years how Maori have wasted the assets given to them by way of settlement, and the benefits do not seem to be flowing down to the people who need support and help. We are supposedly one people, but whenever Maori do not get what they want, like a spoiled child they throw away their toys and play the racist card Peter
Absolutely not, the water management arrangements should be kept as is. Iwi need no special roles, any more than any other NZ-er. mike
While appropriate to consult water is an asset belonging to all New Zealand Citizens. Terry
I am astounded that any reasonable thinking person could believe a race based approach to resolving any issue in New Zealand is a positive thing. Allocate resources and make policy according to need, not race. Scott
Each of us has a role as an individual voter, there is no room for special treatment based on race. Rod
This Minister cannot be reasoned with at all Anthea
The tail shouldn’t wag the dog Barry
No New Zealander should have a special management role in decisions about water. No one owns water. It is a God given right for all to have free access to water. Tony
How can less than 15% of pop. have that much control. Wont solve any Maori problems just make top of the pile elite fatter. Billy
Water belongs to everyone it cannot be owned by a special group of people Andrew
Water is a necessity for life. Like air, it moves around the world, therefore is owned by everyone, or no-one. Murray
Why? Despite the ongoing propaganda, Maori are without doubt the very worst environmentalists. If there are infringements relating to excesses (eg. shellfish, fishing, etc.) you can guarantee the perpetrators all have Maori names. So how can NZers benefit by them having a special role in water management? Tony
Why should a minority group control a significant commodity like water, which is every Kiwi’s democratic right to use. Pavithra
Absolute racially biased unacceptable nonsense- water belongs to everyone equally Hylton
Totally undemocratic and divisive. Part of a very deceitful government’s plan to implement a co governance with Maori Should NOT be allowed to happen Phillip
The main goal of All if these law changes by labour are designed to divide the the people of New Zealand David
DEFINATELY, DEFINATELY, DEFINATELY NOT, repeat NOT. Again – simply reverse racism and F..ing our NEW ZEALAND. NOOOOOOOO  Brian
Maori customary rights does not extend to machinery design and maintenance or modern water management ross
N. O. End of story. Peter
Absolutely not we are one nation Martin
Kiwi, not Iwi! Gary
They fight among themselves how can they look after the waters its not their’s to manage Jimmy
Definitely not Graeme
One people, one nation. No to any form of iwi privilege’s which undermine our democratic rights. One people, one vote, time to remove this Marxist form of governance from New Zealand. We are now the laughing stock of the western world controlled by a deceitful Labor Government who are dumbing down our spectacular country through all sectors of society including education. Steve
No! But you might distinguish management from governance…. Tim
Never Harry
Iwi are ru(i)ning the country and fight back is essential. James
What expertise do they have in this topic? Lyn
Management should be by people specialised in the science of water and formal management. Not run by idealogical folklore supporting elite iwi agendas Maggie
We are all one, how can less than 20% of population? showing week milatant Govt. I beleive Our precious PM will walk soon Paul
Iwi do not represent the interests and ‘common good’ of all New Zealanders. There is no evidence of their purported “….significant expertise and experience iwi have in resource management, infrastructure development, and water issues” Vanessa 
Over my dead body!! Ron
Another myth is Maori have a deep understanding of resource management and infrastructure. Who are the great architects – not Maori unless a whare counts. John
A VERY BIG NO sylvis
Iwi should have a consultative role only. They have a role to play in water management as part of their connection to the land, and the preservation of pure resources, but again in a consultative role only. Colin
We are one people not two tribes. Everyone should have equal rights and standing in these matters. Ken
Racist and theft of public property Reg
We are all equal under the ToW, democracy must prevail or there will be decades of unrest. The history of Maori governence and stewardship does not make good reading. Merv
I would like to see and example of Maori water management from the past. Chris
I will have already had more that a far share from the N.Zers purse. They signed sovereignly to the Queen in the treaty. We’re very pleased to do so, there’s no actual problem with N.z. water our problem is the dishonest prime minister we’re having to endure. Robin
The ‘partnership’ with maori is just bullshit! NO, No, NO etc Carl
Welcome their SPECIAL expertise if they have it but limit their influence to their 15% make-up of the population of NEW ZEALAND Doug
This is racism and denies the 85% of New Zealanders who have contributed to the development of the infrastructure around water. There is no way Iwi have the right or ability to take over control of this nation water. Bryan
Over the years everything, and I mean everything Iwi has controlled has been a disaster Neil
None whatsoever. Look what they’ve done to lake waikaremoana. Shameful!!! Rick
No way. Mark
One country one people Gerald
Special treatment for no one. that is NOT democracy RICHard
We are all part of NZ, every race, gender & age. Water is key to survival & is therefore essential. Every NZer equally has the right, not divided by race, to water. Therefore ownership is for everyone and management should be by the most appropriate appointed people, not determined by race. Paula
Water management should be in the hands of public elected Kiwis with no consideration or favour given on racial basis. Anton
Of course not, they are merely citizens like everyone else in New Zealand Terry
Bloody ludicrous! Traitors the lot of them Terry
Never never never Richard
Of course not Geoffrey
Absolutely not Mark
Water is everyone’s right and to be used equally. Pete
Biggest attack on democracy and our way of life ever..it must be stopped and steps taken that ensure this can never happen again. Peter
I wouldn’t have a problem if any of the groups involved have the knowledge and expertise to make decisions concerning our water? So I would like to know there qualifications?? Ricky
Iwi should be like any other corporation in New Zealand, and only have a role in managing their own assets. Murray
Undemocratic! Catherine
This entire process has been an orchestrated power grab by the activist Maori segment in a Labour Govt desperate to hold on to power Mike
Another attempt at aparthied kelvin
another costly disaster waiting to happen , as with everything else that iwi are associated with…the facts do not lie . Roy
Greedy iwi should just piss off back to 1840. steve
Absolutely not, water comes from the sky and is owned by nobody. Tom
All assets should be controlled by local governance and those elected. Mark
outright theft of rate payers assets. criminal mark
The public do not vote for Iwi. Graham
We are One People and we cannot allow this bill to be passed, giving a small minority control of such a critical asset Merrill
It is ridiculous to assert Iwi should have any special rights or role in water management. We the ratepayers do as we pay rates to Councils to look after management of water on our behalf. This is the model used throughout the world successfully. Nanaia Mahuta desire to strip us of our role in control of local water and meekly handing it over to four iwi entities is therefore unacceptable, and intolerable. These Maori entities have no experience or knowledge of such management unlike all existing Councils. Apart from this it is completely against the Christian principle that we are all equal under God as it gives privilege to but one race – Maori. The Treaty itself also does not give Maori and special rights either or advocate a partnership as Andrew Little falsely and continually claims. Instead the Treaty specifically gives equal rights. Bruce
This proposal is an assault on democracy and must not succeed Graham
Racist Greg
This Labour Government is so undemocratic that it is a threat to New Zealanders way of life and worrying for the future Geoff
Never ! Plain and simple … Des
This take over of water is just what one can expect from a communist govt. disgusting! Ian
Water is for everyone John
Bloody ridiculous, racial division is apartheid, we don’t want that here – this has to be stopped. Clive
They should have NO special role in anything !!! Kevin
No special nothing of any sort. This b.s. needs to stop. They have had enough blood from the stone. Greg
IWI do not neccessarily have any special skills when managing water. The board should be made up from suitable qualified people and based on skills not race . This is a racist document. william
Absolutely not… Lorraine
All Kiwi should have equal rights. I will have NO special knowledge or experience. Most of them are Europeans with a minor Maori ancestry. Laurie
No no no no no – What Maori. There are no Maori n New Zealand. Only part Maori with most having less than 50% Maori blood. Time to get on with life as one people and stop this apartheid crap Trevor
The vote should be ALL New Zealanders. No division, no segregation, just inclusion Bev
I am dumbstruck by what I just read. I never expected such litany of deception and misinformation and skulduggery from Labour. Andy
Apartheid down-under-style! Te Puapua, jab mandates, maori road blocks, language……Adern and her commie cabal are destroying my beloved New Zealand. How I detest her!!! Sharen
ABSOLUTELY NOT!! So many times in my life I have seen maori give things they have wanted and ALWAYS accompanied with huge dollops of money! And in almost all situations it has turned into a mess! Sure the likes of Tainui and Ngai Tahu might make a reasonable job of it, BUT AT WHAT COST!?? But my biggest opposition is that my belief is that they ultimately want to have ownership of the water itself. Because once they can say the water is theirs, it’s a license to make money! FROM EVERY SINGLE NEW ZEALANDER THAT USES WATER! To drink,to water livestock, to swim in,to put a boat in, to irrigate, to water their garden, to clean their car, TO FLUSH THEIR TOILET! Wally
Just an lll disguised attempt to give iwi control of water something Maori have been after for years Anthony
No,no,no get rid of this Labour Party and bring back New Zealand. Laura
Iwi members are citizens of New Zealand,the same as the rest of us, no more, no less. Brian
One nation. One people. One law. John
A catastrophal situation. In tribal decisions Mana rules, not logic or democratic process. The “gift -of-the -gab” becomes “the gift-of-the-grab”. Charles
Absolutely not. Ross
Why, some one give me a sound reason why And ill bet there will be a ten thousand people telling you no for every one person saying yes. Iwi have no plausible reason to be considered as a group to be consider to have a special role in water management Bruce
Current water management through out NZ is not in need of any change. Peter
most definitely not, especially without consulting the entire public before deciding what the government should do with our assets. James
To think these scumbags run our country, time to flush them down the drain. Sven
Experts should be chosen on merit not by race. Neil
No more than ANY New Zealander. John
Absolutely not. They should have the same rights as everyone else – nothing more and nothing less! Darren
Jacinda Ardern is destroying our country through her obsession with co-governance and iwi rights. What a disaster she has turned out to be.  Joyce
No, No, No! Iwi should not have special rights. They are mired in vested interest. They shouldn’t be permitted anywhere near the levers of power.  Len
Three Waters should be dumped. The whole thing is a massive con job on New Zealanders.  Christopher
Mayor Bruce Smith is showing great leadership on three waters – what a shame he is not Prime Minister! Bruce