The Pae Ora (Healthy Futures) Bill will radically restructure our entire health system. Our 20 democratically elected and community focussed District Health Boards will be abolished. They will be replaced by two centralised agencies, Health New Zealand and a Maori Health Authority, that will “co-govern” New Zealand’s health services, with its workforce of 80,000, an annual operating budget of $20 billion, and an asset base of $24 billion. The Maori Health Authority will have the right of veto over the entire health system, and as a result, health services in New Zealand will be prioritised according to race instead of clinical need.
Labour’s plan for the restructure of health, comes straight out of their He Puapua playbook, a blueprint designed to replace New Zealand democracy with the tribal rule by 2040. It was not revealed to voters before the 2020 election but rolled out after Labour secured a Parliamentary majority to govern alone.
Not only has this separatist system been created without proper community engagement – other than extensive consultation with Maori interest groups – the Government has even enabled the Bill to sidestep the usual legislative scrutiny of the Health Select Committee by establishing a new Committee, the Pae Ora Legislation Committee, to deal with it.
The Minister of Health Andrew Little justified this new committee on the basis that “the make-up of the committee would permit the Crown to meet its Treaty of Waitangi obligations in a way that had not been provided for in any other piece of legislation”.
That means Jacinda Ardern’s He Puapua “co-governance” agenda is now being forced onto Parliament itself!
The new Committee is made up of 50 percent Maori MPs and 50 percent ‘other’, but since there are 11 MPs on the Committee, the extra MP with the ‘casting’ vote is Maori – a clear indication that under Labour, “co-governance” means “tribal rule”.
Ian Powell, the former executive director of the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists, is outraged by the health reforms: “Ten months ago, health minister Andrew Little announced the government intended to abolish district health boards effective from July 1 this year. This was never signalled and came as a complete surprise to the health sector. DHB abolition was never part of Labour’s election campaign in 2020. It was not part of the narrative around the review of the health and disability system, led by Heather Simpson, nor of the leadup to Little’s announcement. There was a complete lack of prior consultation.”
He refutes allegations that DHBs are creating a “postcode lottery” in the health – the Government’s justification for their abolition – and is scathing about the Pae Ora Bill, describing it as “vacuous on primary and community care and virtually silent on hospitals. Before leaving the health system we have, we deserve to know much more about the one we are going to. Replacing existing structures with new ones that have not been worked through is poor leadership. Making it worse than irresponsible is doing this in the midst of a raging pandemic… Surely NZ deserves better than this. It is time for sanity, reinforced by an evidence-based approach, to be restored to the political leadership of our health system.”
Not only have inadequate details about the proposed system been provided to the public, the justification for the restructure has been ‘manufactured’ to conceal the He Puapua agenda.
The unfortunate reality is that we are again being subjected to the same sort of misleading public relations spin as Three Waters and Covid, where communications experts are attempting to shift public opinion against our present system through clever “be kind to each other” type catchphrases.
According to the Herald, the Health Transition Unit – the special agency the Prime Minister set up within her Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet to push through the health reforms – will spend almost $20 million on public relations consultants this year, attempting to convince us that New Zealand will benefit from a race-based health system.
This week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator is Dr Lawrie Knight, an Auckland GP who has been practicing medicine since 1974. Dr Knight became so concerned by the ongoing claims that our health system is “systemically racist” and disadvantaging Maori, that he fact-checked the evidence that’s been provided, only to find it is false:
“Maori health leaders have criticised the New Zealand Health System as systemically racist, and that this is the prime contributor to poor Maori health and reduced longevity. The five most common claims that have been made by them in this regard are as stated below. These have all been fact checked and found to be incorrect. This paper presents the evidence to support this view, based on Statistics New Zealand data and the census data:
1. That Maori die seven years earlier than other New Zealanders
2. That Maori have poorer health services than non- Maori
3. That decolonising the health system will improve Maori health and longevity
4. That the primary contributing factor for Maori ill health is “systemic racism,” “white privilege,” and “unconscious bias” in the New Zealand Health system
5. That non-Maori are not affected by inequitable health provision and services
“All the above statements are not correct.”
Dr Knight systematically refutes each of the claims, including that ‘systemic racism’, ‘white privilege’, and ‘unconscious bias’ are primary contributing factors causing poor health, and he outlines the accepted determinants of poor health as identified by the World Health Organisation:
“The Social Determinants of Health (SDH) have an important influence on health inequities – the unfair and avoidable differences in health status seen within and between countries. In countries at all levels of income, health and illness follow a social gradient: the lower the socioeconomic position, the worse the health. The following list provides examples of the social determinants of health, which can influence health equity in positive and negative ways:
– Income and social protection
– Education
– Unemployment and job insecurity
– Working life conditions
– Food insecurity
– Housing, basic amenities and the environment
– Early childhood development
– Social inclusion and non-discrimination
– Structural conflict
– Access to affordable health services of decent quality.
“Research shows that the social determinants can be more important than health care or lifestyle choices in influencing health. Numerous studies suggest that SDH account for between 30-55% of health outcomes. In addition, estimates show that the contribution of sectors outside health to population health outcomes exceeds the contribution from the health sector. Addressing SDH appropriately is fundamental for improving health and reducing longstanding inequities in health.”
Dr Knight then specifies a range of common factors that cause poor health including obesity, hypertension, addictions, smoking, coronary artery disease, depression, anxiety disorders, gout, cancers, diabetes, respiratory problems, and genetic disorders.
He explains that the proposed system intends building on the widespread network of Maori health providers that were set up by Helen Clark’s Labour Government 20 years ago to “close the gaps”, pointing out that since they have made little difference to health outcomes in the intervening years, it is misleading to claim they will make a difference now:
“Since 2000, most Maori health services for Maori have been provided by seventy-seven Maori Health providers. They have been funded by the state but completely managed by iwi throughout New Zealand during this time. They were created twenty years ago to provide a ‘by Maori, for Maori’ health service as a solution for the Maori health problems – the identical reason as for this current bill. However, this network of hauora have not had the breakthrough in improving Maori health statistics that had been hoped would occur with a ‘by Maori, for Maori’ service provider.”
Dr Knight believes the reforms will not create the improvements claimed. His paper can be read HERE, and the submission he made to the Select Committee is HERE.
Social issues commentator Lindsay Mitchell has also examined the claims from academics, politicians, and public servants that colonisation has created growing health disparity for Maori, and her analysis found that for most Maori, “living standards have improved enormously, as has equality of opportunity. The progress of Maori social and economic indicators that has occurred under the process of colonisation stands in stark contrast to the constant barrage of contrary claims.”
In her Breaking Views article, Effi Lincoln investigated one of a plethora of claims of increasing Maori ‘inequity’ in health treatments – namely the evidence relating to gout. While she found that no material prejudice in treatments exists, it became apparent a ‘massaging’ of data had created the illusion of bias.
With the Government’s claims that our community focussed DHBs are failing so badly they need to be centralised not standing up to scrutiny, and the allegations of declining health care for Maori unable to be substantiated from the data, what else should we be concerned about?
If we look back to when the Maori Health Authority was first mooted, Iwi leaders insisted the funding model should be based on Whanau Ora, a social services agency with full commissioning powers that stand outside of government.
But the Auditor General’s 2015 review of Whanau Ora highlighted major problems – not only was almost a third of all taxpayer funding being wasted on administration, the objectives were so vague it was virtually impossible to ascertain whether the money was being well spent.
Furthermore, because Whanau Ora commissioning agencies are private contractors, they are not covered by the Official Information Act, nor are they accountable to taxpayers.
Pae Ora is heading down the same track, and this is one of the concerns raised by the Auditor General in his submission on the Bill:
“In essence, public accountability is about public organisations demonstrating to Parliament and the public their competence, reliability, and honesty in their use of public money and other public resources… I am concerned that accountability arrangements for the reformed health system may be unclear, confusing, and fragmented…
“It is unclear whether the Maori Health Authority will be a public entity for the purposes of the Public Audit Act 2001. To avoid doubt, we suggest that the Bill include a statement that the Maori Health Authority will be a public entity for the purposes of the Public Audit Act 2001, and therefore within the Controller and Auditor-General’s mandate.”
As the Bill stands at present, Section 11 states, “Health New Zealand is a Crown agent within the Crown Entities Act 2004”, while Section 17 states “The Maori Health Authority is an independent statutory entity”. That implies its spending will not be subject to any official scrutiny – billions of taxpayer dollars handed to the control of iwi leaders, without full accountability, and without a public mandate, is scandalous.
Let’s be very clear what this is. The proposed Maori Health Authority will create a separate health system for Maori, paid by non-Maori taxpayers to entities controlled by iwi leaders and accountable to no-one. It’s being justified on the basis of health statistics that are bogus, and to satisfy a Treaty of Waitangi ‘partnership’ that does not exist in law.
Let’s also be very clear about what the effects will be. The iwi elite will control our health system through a veto right. That means the leaders of multi-billion-dollar private business development corporations will control New Zealand’s health system, and public funds will be allocated on the basis of race.
Will it achieve any better outcomes? No. Closing the Gaps has been in place for 20 years – yet iwi leaders claim the gaps have widened, and they trot out their mantra claiming institutional racism and colonisation is the cause.
Behind the veil of fake evidence and misrepresentations, tribal rule – masquerading as “co-governance” – is the ultimate purpose of the reforms.
Jacinda Ardern is about to give iwi leaders control of our health system and the huge funding resources that comes with it. Is this what you want for New Zealand?
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THIS WEEK’S POLL ASKS:
*Is it acceptable that the proposed new Maori Health Authority will not be fully accountable to taxpayers?
*Poll comments are posted below.
*All NZCPR poll results can be seen in the Archive.
THIS WEEK’S POLL COMMENTS
| I would have no problem with the proposed Maori Health Authority not being fully accountable to taxpayers as long as they were not being funded by the taxpayer. Another example of greedy zealots wanting the fruit from the money tree and using spurious arguments to get their hands on it. | Gary |
| Tribal control of Health is tripe, racist and a future festering disaster to come. Anything from He Puapua should be dropped immediately. The lies, lack of community engagement and general all round Putin-like tactics reek of dishonesty. As an older person this whole business is beyond me and my beautiful country is in dire straits, sliding the slippery slopes of doom. I can think of many countries who would force this government to immediately resign but New Zealand has sadly become a mouse-like nation. | John |
| NO , It is definitely NOT acceptable. | Gregor |
| Another taxpayer funded dept. grabbed by the commie crime gang, so they can further genocide us by the wef/un genocide , depop, agenda | David |
| WE are a multicultural society and governed by democratic means where all people are equal under the law. | John |
| It is a disgusting abuse of power by Jacinda Ardern and has to be stopped before it is too late. Every person in New Zealand needs to wake up to what this government is doing, and do all we can to halt it. | Richard |
| Absolutely not, we are a multicultural country and as such democracy reigns! | John |
| Any, and every, organisation being funded by taxpayer funds should be accountable to taxpayers. Not only in terms of expenditure, but also, and perhaps more importantly, in terms of outcomes. This Labour government has systematically undermined the DHB’s in NZ and has used Covid as a smoke screen to advance their cause in many areas. | Glenn |
| New Zealand Taxpayers funding this Authority should be not be given to Maori alone.. This sets a dangerous precedent. We are all New Zealanders and should be treated equally. | Cheryl |
| Loss of democracy and transparency and welcoming of apartheid – NZ gone stone age | Leeanne |
| Any public money spending MUST be held accountable and I won’t get into all the other non-democratic policies of this Government | Cookie |
| Furthermore, there should be no need for a separate Health System catering for only 16% of the voting population. We are all New Zealander, and all should have the same equal rights & access to the same level of health care. Those managing it should all be elected representatives and each held accountable for how the funding is managed. | John |
| In twenty years this country will be another Cuba | Neville |
| The leaders of Labour, in the main, were ELECTED DEMOCRATICALLY Yet they choose to act UNDEMOCRATICALLY. | Gaeey |
| The proposed changes will fail as most of the money will go on new offices etc, and decisions will be made on racial grounds, not scientific. | Malcolm |
| No bloody way. Democracy is being steadily eroded with each of these so-called reforms by Bin Ardern’s government. It is absolute BS that her government is the most transparent ever. With every one of these policies – 3 waters, He Puapua, the history curriculum, handing the DOC estate to Iwi, blocking select committee access to the police commissioner – it proves the complete opposite. I am incensed at the blatant abuse of power that I’m convinced that these instances prove that absolute power corrupts absolutely. | Kerry |
| Just how much more of trying to make something that is NOT evidence based – to be paid for by the majority taxpayers who get no prior respectful notice. | Maurice |
| This can not be allowed to proceed. | James |
| A separate system that favours one race is racism, and should never be allowed. | Laurie |
| Totally unacceptable. | William |
| Reading through the comments i am fully in agreement with the majority. This is a situation that should not be happening. However , I am not going to put forward my views , instead I am going to write directly to Chris Luxon asking him directly about what he intends to do in regard to opposing this racist bullshit decisions fostered by the idiots in the labour government .I feel if everyone were to do this it might go somewhere towards getting some answers , hopefully positive. Incidentially after watching minister of health, Little being interviewed on Sunday programme about the shortage of Nurse and their burn out rate, from the answers he was giving it appears that he does not have a clue about what is going on and absolutely no idea about how to fix it.. He should be trying to make the existing health system work not wasting a billion dollars on some massive scam system. As for cinderella, she should be asking all the maori business trusts to start paying tax like all the rest of us. | Ralph |
| This racist piffle driven by Ardern and her cronies must be stopped. Any taxpayer money spent on a maori health authority must be accountable. Any agency funded by the taxpayer should be accountable. | Gavin |
| No it in not acceptable, not in any way. If they use all NZ’ers tax money then absolutely they should be accountable to ALL the people of NZ | Carolyn |
| Pure unadulterated racism. | Keith |
| I am beyond speech at the suggestion. | Bev |
| Never. I would like to say more but these days i can’t . | John |
| What ever happened to equality? | Averil |
| absolutely unbelievable !!!! Needs to be stopped NOW!!!! | yvonne |
| ANY CHANGES MUST BE FULLY ACOUNTABLE TO TAXPAYERS | LEO |
| NO NO NO NO RACIST RACIST RACIST | Sheryl |
| National, armed with the true evidence as outlined need to clearly state NOW that they will reverse this nonsense should they win the next election. | Robert |
| Where is the Governor General in all of this? She should sack the Prime Minister if she has any balls. sorry she has no balls | John |
| Any monies that come from taxpayers must be accountable to all. Enough of this Maori elite troughers! | Bryan |
| Consider the current system of accountability practised by the United Nations General Assembly. Current members can submit proposals that would benefit its member nations and/or sanction corrupt practices. Two members with the power of veto, regularly veto, so the United Nations goes nowhere! This is what will happen with the proposed Health changes. Maori elite will control the narrative for their self interest, knowing the cultural cringe of ‘colonists’ will enable them to access the vast pot of taxpayers money that this Labour government holds the purse strings on. Shame on them!. | Vic |
| Ardern’s Govt. puts forward EVER-,MORE outrageous plans for spending OUR cash – with absolutely NO ACCOUNTABILITY! | Sylvia |
| completely unacceptable. | stewart |
| Hell NO!!! | Maddi |
| No accountability means no rule of law. | Barend |
| I’m totally over this government and the direction it’s taking our country. As for Maori, they need to get off their rear ends and stop looking for excuses. The rest of New Zealanders including immigrant New Zealanders slot in. Wake up Maori. | Chris |
| What is even more unacceptable is Jacinda’s racist agenda. Let’s vote on that in 2023 | Phil |
| An outrageous racist proposal. | David |
| This is all very scary, Jacinda is leading NZ into big trouble | Annette |
| This is an outrageous proposition from ideological zealots who have a complete disconnect with reality. | Chris |
| The question to ask; are National and ACT going to repeal it, if so we can move onto other things the Marxists are doing to us. This has always been the NZ problem, incoming governments never repeal. Makes you wonder if there are some back door agreements we aren’t aware of. | Rex |
| Separatism and inviting an endless pit for money as is the case with most Maori run ventures. I was raised with Maori’s and worked with them but now I find the radical Maori a very different person. | John |
| How can 15% of our population have control over the other 85% health services paid for by ALL Taxpayers, I am lost for words to explain the enormous imbalance in such a biased health system, just because of their so called “indigenous” claim of origin? | Bruza |
| There is nothing fair or acceptable to any of the health proposals put out by this government. We should all be suspicious about what is behind all this and learn to read between the lines. | Audrey |
| Divisions again | Elizabeth |
| This whole health business is outrageous and will cause feelings of division throughput he country. feelings of ill will toward the Maori are being stoked up by this inept government | Derek |
| Totally racist favouring a minority of the population. It must have the light of day shone it so the public can see what they are paying for. | Peter |
| Retain the current system! | Donald |
| Absolutely Racist. New Zealanders have had enough of this. | DEREK |
| Enough of this nonsense | N. Royce |
| Any Govt money should be accountable and audited by totally independent Auditors. ie. KPMG Deliotte’s etc | Elaine |
| So the “Jacinda” racist machine rolls on ! Why the hell aren’t National beating the Drums to death over all this Maori crap or are they too scared to cross the Iwi. Roll on elections 2023. | Richard |
| I thought we lived in a democracy | Gordon |
| When will New Zealanders (NOT people from Aotearoa) wake up to the fact that we are being governed by Communist Iwi led Politicians ? | Kay |
| The tax is for everyone not just a few | Toni |
| If the Maori want to be separate let them pay for the health system with the tax that the big Iwi controlled company’s don’t pay ,instead of letting the rest of NZ pay for their fancy wants. | Tony |
| We should all have access to the same level of health care regardless of race., where the seriousness of illness dictates the urgency for treatment | Rob |
| Money will not be spent on health, it will just disappear! | John |
| It will not end well. | Sam |
| NO. THE COUNTRY IS STUFFED. I usually finish off my contribution with that considered opinion but now it is a certainty. My vote will go to any political party that will guarantee us an English language TV news channel and an English language newspaper sans government press releases. I just can’t get to grips with Pidgin English. As for Maori health problems the most effective solution would be for them to adopt a pakeha lifestyle. On the whole it could be cheaper and more effective for them. | Bruce |
| Racist | Greg |
| colour blind is the only way forward | Brian |
| This is entirely unacceptable. To allow Maori to have no accountability to the non-Maori who will be paying hand over fist to Iwi leaders reeks of corruption and nepotism. | Phill |
| Sick of this separatist bull shit.the labour govt under jacinda is the worst govt we have ever had. | Marie |
| There should be one health system treating all New Zealanders on the basis of need. | Tony |
| Who in parliament is going to have the guts to make it an election promise to remove all race based funding, services and preferential treatment for those for Maori decent and actually implement that promise? Separatism leads to distrust, distrust leads to hatred and hated leads to violence. That is NZ’s future if the decent into Iwi minority rule based apartheid is not stopped and it will not be stopped unless it is mandated by government. | RIchard |
| What is going on? Jacinda must go. | William |
| of course its not acceptable & is undemocratic to say the least…. | james |
| Yes.I would support a separate Maori health Authority on one condition that those on the Maori roll finance it fully and without veto rights over the rest of the health budget. That by my reasoning should be in line with there wish to have a system of by maori for maori.The main reason for a separate authority is so that the maori administrators can lay there hands on large amounts of cash,without accountability. | gale |
| A public bodies must be elected by the totality of the citizens. The principle of one man one vote is essential to democracy. This new act will drive a wedge between maori and non maori. | fred |
| Unbelievable to suggest that any organisation with such responsibilities and access to public money does not have to account. | mark |
| this cannot be allowed to happen..How can 22 elected DHB’s be swept aside. | Peter |
| It is clear that this proposal will not work to everyone’s advantage. New Zealanders should all be treated equally and fair to every tax-payer! | Marg |
| We do not have democratic government. We have an irresponsible rabble handing over our taxpayer funded health care system to a non accountable elite. This is not a democratic New Zealand. | Paloma |
| This is absolutely outrageous and will certainly create more separatism in NZ. | Amanda |
| NO a BIG NO | merv |
| This Labour govt is committing treason | Kevin |
| This whole creepage of control by stealth is totally unacceptable and must be stopped. | Roger |
| This is a clear example of a communist inspired centralised system in order to maintain control. Out with this ratbag government! | Peter |
| So much for openness and honesty – the world is lacking that full stop | Jill |
| Absolutely not – all entities responsible for spending public money must be accountable to the public and subject to auditor general | Ihaia |
| They need to fully accountable, the track record of other Maori Authority proves this. | Rod |
| Our total health service will make it even harder to get the care that so many New Zealanders should be getting. | Doreen |
| must be under scrutiny of Auditor-General | Colin |
| Healthy choices = Happiness -treating everyone as equals as our creator does Starting every school day with a Health lesson & some exercise – giving kids the tools to make healthy choices . After a few generations doctors/ hospitals wont be in demand -they have the cures = $ & control for the 1% | raewyn |
| Racism/aparthide to the max | John |
| It is outrageous | James |
| More and more we have a government running a once democratic country towards the abys. | Ido |
| Further there shouldn’t be a separate authority based on race or colour, it is racist | Greg |
| There is already not enough accountability for money given. Giving ample opportunity for money to be misappropriated. | Ido |
| It is a fraud | John |
| usual stuff this from Chairman Ardern and her gang of socialists. | Ken |
| Existing system more local and works well. We want to keep it | Paul |
| Its just another massive money portal. I can see them milking it to death until someone with the balls and brains to cull it comes along. | Paul |
| The proposed Maori authority has demanded New Zealand Health to be accountable and would then control yet another NZ department. The million dollars recently set aside for the Authority plus the 82 million in setting it up should have gone to improving the existing hospitals which have long suffered from staff and equipment shortages. This is where 100% of NZ population can go without setting aside an ethnic preferential system. | Rayna |
| any major changes should be done by referendum,old angry little should be kicked out, in fact we should have a complete change of government at the next election, David Seymore is pushing against this co governance scam that is arriving at full speed,these opposition partys are going to have to get in to it,when is the fact that these maoris are not indigenous and should have no special privilege’s,ever going to be spoken about,these iwis are filthy rich have been bleeding the treaty pot for years,but nothing changes,colonials are still to blame for everything,what a load of propagander and bullshit | rodger |
| It is TOTALLY unacceptable and scandalous that this such could even be contemplated! | Allan |
| By Maori for Maori,what a load of BS.Tsooner we get rid of Ardern,The Treaty and so called Maoris who are in fact,Whites with a little Maori blood in them,the better for all. | Peter |
| Irresponsible and outrageous! | Joan |
| Knowing the health conditions Maori are vulnerable to, they cannot be treated successfully via this system. If the plan is to be for maori by maori, the ,outcomes will be so much worse. As Ms Newman wrote, a large proportion of the budget WILL go on ‘administration’. It has occurred before and it will again. The health providers to this system have trained vis the western world system. They hold western qualifications. They took these qualifications to improve their knowledge in their health discipline. WE do not know what the average life expectancy was in pre colonial times.. Maybe if addictions, alcohol, poor dietary and lifestyle choices were removed there would be no talk of this segregation. | Esther |
| How can this proposal be at all acceptable, given that it is race based, not to mention totally unfair and unjust to the New Zealand tax payer. | Carol |
| Luxon must be very clear what his national party will do. | Ken |
| It is absolutely racist and non democratic | Greg |
| The Bill gives Maori control over the entire New Zealand health system with no accountability to the people of New Zealand | Terry |
| As individual citizens we are held accountable for our actions, why would we invest in any agency not held to such a standard having benefit of the public purse. | Christina |
| It is an absolute disgrace that a proposed policy bill as dangerous, deluded and racist, not to mention absolutely undemocratic, has got as far as it did. The only reason it did, is because, like so many other policy changes instigated by the Ardern government, it is being smuggled past the noses of hardworking citizens by stealth. It is disgraceful and New Zealanders need to wake up fast. | Johan |
| Please, can someone explain to me why this hideous PM is tearing New Zealand asunder? Is it for her UN aspirations? Or is it for her one world government agenda? Or is it because she’s really really stupid??? | Sharen |
| ABSOLUTELY NO NO NO !!! | trish B |
| If there is a need for a Maori Health Authority – which I dispute – it should be paid for by Maori. This is what Treaty compensation should be for. It Maori want it; Maori should pay for it. | Peter K |
| This is not going to improve Maori health but will help fill the pockets of the elite and will as usual achieve nothing. Can this dopey government legally hand this money over to them and and not require them to be accountable by annual audit when everybody else has to be accountable. Are we also going to see separate hospitals built for maori to help along the aparthied system that is now coming to the forefront | John |
| Yet another lousy effort by this Labour government TO wreck a heath system that worked. this is bad as three Waters This shower needs booting out of office as | Ian |
| I am fed up with all the separate things this government is determined to put in place to give control to 16% of watered down Maori. | carol |
| Tribalism did not work in Zimbabwe And it won’t work here | Tony |
| No way | Eleanor |
| Lies, deceit and corruption. | Dianne |
| If this succeeds will they bring back witch doctors | Arthur |
| When 83% of the population subsidize the other 17% who will not be held to account regarding the spending of that money, makes me wonder if this Govt ever learned any arithmetic | Neville |
| Unbelievable, how can New Zealand let this happen. Does everyone have their heads in the sand. If we criticize we are raciest or we are getting into hate speech. We are loosing our country. | Alan |
| Tribal elite systems are not acceptable and democracy must continue. | James |
| There will be a civil war in this country if this continues. The average Maori does not want a bar of it. | Harvey |
| It’s totally racist and it will butcher and degrade the existing health system. If I was a doctor , a nurse, a specialist or a surgeon I would be off to Australia or some other democratic country where my services would be fully appreciated. It is all a complete nonsense and a rort and the National party need to say they will repeal all this crap. They need to think of the majority of the population and forget about the minority part maori racists, greenies and bleeding hearts brigade etc. etc | bruce |
| that comes back to taxation without representation….in a circuitous route, the result is the same. | Lionel |
| Repeating the same mistakes will never help the people who identify as Maori to help themselves. | John |
| Why is this not published. Why isn’t it given out to the public | Hazel |
| Absolutely not acceptable! These clowns need to be removed from office. | vic |
| Why is anyone surprised thanks to this government nothing happens in this country without the un saying yea or nay | Hugh |
| When the Maoris start to pay tax like all other NZ ers, then they may have a case. Where is the billions of dollars given to the tribes going to? | John |
| Medical apartheid! | Roger |
| It racism plain and clear . | Don |
| Ardern and her government are EVIL Eeverything they do is to destroy democracy! Giving free lunches to iwi for their vote shows complete idiocy. Shes the boss and her lunacy and lies must be stopped !! | Warren |
| No it is not acceptable, nor is it acceptable that the Maori run child welfare services are trying to dodge accountability as well. I think the problem is the ideology of victimhood = it is OK to swive others because I’ve been told I was. | Pammie |
| We should all be asking the New Leader of the National Party if he would stand up and be counted for speaking out against al of these underhand schemes of this government. HE MIGHT, MIGHT just get some of the voters that were lost last election, back to vote these absolutely mindless people out of public visibility. | William |
| Accountability must be foremost !! | Coral |
| “Notaxaton without representation” or in this case “No taxation without “accountability” | Gareth |
| It’s an idea bereft of reason. | Chris |
| Utterly ridiculous. Jacinda is brainless. | Valerie |
| It is frightening to see what is happening to our health system and our country under this Labour Government ! | Barbara |
| all public funded money needs to be accountable | noel |
| Totally racist.I have been on planet earth as a Kiwi pakeha for 75 yrs.I grew up in a family of 5 other siblings & my Parents had nothing but worked there arses off to gove us all the best. Myself & my siblings are all healthy & fit I have many Mairi friends who I served in the services with & I have never heard any one of them mention any of this ” underpriviledged bullshit”.It’s all about the wealthy Maori pulling strings to get themselves richer & they will never help their own kind .Look at all the land they have already reclaimed!!! It’s all in GORSE which has no use to anyone. Jacinda & your racist mob you need to get gone.NOW | Murray |
| Why aren’t these details all over the media? Surely this proposal is illegal? | Mel |
| Absolutely not acceptable | David |
| Any monies given to this will just dissapear, ther will be no accountbility | Beryl |
| Had enough of the scheming pm she and her party and Maori hanger on’s. Need to be kicked into touch. The willie Jackson’s Mahuta are having a damn good crack at screwing NZ. You are about to get a ride awakening | Dianne |
| This fabrication of lies that Maoris claim come from the Treaty are just that. A fabrication. Where does the Treaty mention health care? Like all the other inventions they have pushed as coming from the Treaty are all lies. Next they’ll be claiming that the Treaty had the internet in its origins. The Treaty is a relic from 180 years ago. A piece of history and nothing to do with modern New Zealand. The interesting facts on Helen Clark’s ‘ Close the Gaps’ failure and ‘By Maoris for Maoris’ hallucination proves what a failure this is that Maoris are just not able to help themselves despite millions spent on trying to help them. Giving them control of New Zealand’s health system will be the same failure again and destroy the Health Service for the rest of us. Maoris have brought all this on them selves by poor diet, smoking, drinking and not seeking health care when they should. I am not saying that they are the only ones in this category but they are over represented in this group. The deceitful way that Ardern has hidden these major changes to our democracy, proves that she knew they were illegal but planned to have them all sewn up by the 2023 election. | CHRIS |
| Nothing shocks me anymore on the fanaticism of the unrepresentative maori swill that have been allowed a free reign in this parliament. It seems like the agenda is “hell bent on revenge” The sooner this terrible government is gone the better. I just hope that New Zealanders will not forget what happens when they choose to elect a lLabor Government. NEVER AGAIN | Timothy |
| cannot believe the proposed racial maori bu…hit!! | norman |
| The victim mentality is destructive! | Hilary |
| It is not acceptable that any agency funded by our taxpayer dollars is not fully accountable. Just another Labour government wrought. | Lawrie |
| Racism in reverse | Nicholas |
| There are other areas where Maori dont appear to be holding to the Tax payer so whats new .This is just another and example of this Government attiude and contempt to the tax payer.I am also concerned that Luxson does not shown his anger to the propossed Maori health and the move to Co governance. | ken |
| This is outrageous and undemocratic. The current GOVT is clearly operating in a different orbit to the real world. They need to go-NOW | Andrew |
| Absolute madness | David |
| Absolutely NOT | Pam |
| Bad governance. | Christine |
| so many of NZers have had a huge gutsfull and very concerned about what is being by this mickey mouse Govt | graeme |
| Will we all have to carry another proof of ethnicity document. To access health care. The mind boggles. | Geoffrey |
| There should be one health system that caters for everyone | Tony |
| Disgraceful | Keith |
| t’s racial | john |
| All spending of public money should always be accountable to the public – all the public, NZers as a whole, not divided by race or anything else. | Cecilie |
| This is total racism | Colleen |
| It is undemocratic and will take taxpayers’ funds but not be accountable to the normal auditing of government funded entities. It is apartheid by stealth. It is totally abhorrent. | Duncan |
| Once again Labour has bowed to the Maori elite and this is scandalous, but then they dont care. Time for this lot to go and the sooner the better. | Fraser |
| I consider that the proposed Maori Health Authority is completely un-acceptable as it would create a division in society and the country which tear the country apart and create 2 health sectors – a means of division in our country. We cannot allow this to happen. | Brian |
| All aspects of He pua pua need to be scrapped before it does immense damage to New Zealand | Bill |
| It is not acceptable that a maori Health Authority be allowed to exist at all! The government has no mandate to initiate this, and the vast majority do not wish to have, and would not agree to having, their health care put into the hands of a group that are demonstrably hostile to our way of life. New Zealand will become an international laughing-stock, and rightly so, if we continue to try to introduce an apartheid system of government. | TOBY |
| And this is just the beginning, Justice, Education, Transport, Defence etc. etc. will all follow the same route if this is not stopped | Kate |
| Open to mismanagement and embezzlement | Peter |
| Ardern’s government is the most secretive, scandalous, underhand, dishonest government this wonderful country called NEW ZEALAND has ever had to endure. May it end soon. | Logan |
| What on earth is happening to our DEMOCRACY Ie one Person one Vote elections. The Health and The Tree Waters changes are so Racist it is past being a joke. | Norm |
| Our current Globalist Agenda supporting parliament, will do anything to destroy society as it is now. Entrenching Apartheid is just another divide & conquer tactic being used. If facts & honesty were employed, no race division would be considered as race would not be considered when it comes to need. The large uninformed proportion of the population are shielded from the facts, by a government controlled media. Thank goodness, more & more of the population are tuning in to the likes of N.Z.C.P.R news-letters, & reading the truth. For that reason alone, we owe Dr Newman & her team, a huge vote of thanks. | A.G.R. |
| The very fact that such authority is to be given to unelected tribal corporations and leaders – without public consultation – is morally totally wrong, and goes against all democratic principles. The so-called “15%” of the population (in reality far less that that) should not be permitted to hold the 85% to ransom. This proposal will not alter Maori health statistics one iota, and instead will make the already-wealthy more wealthy. Remember, “iwi” stands for “I want it”. | Laurence |
| THIS B/S HAS TO STOP RIGHT NOW,LIKE YESTERDAY. | JOHN |
| It is not only not acceptable – in fact the proposal is absolutely scandalous ! | Ron |
| how can a ,minority control the outcomes for the majority | john |
| I am non Maori and was basically told by surgeon at hospital that I would not get a knee replacement as I was not fat enough and the wrong colour | Shirly |
| This is outrageous | Felicity |
| NO WAY! NEVER | Kerin |
| why are we introducing apartheid? | louis |
| There must be tracked performance targets. What gets measured, gets done! | Murray |
| Funds given to Maori orbanisations has been shown a waste of Tax Payers money in most instances. | David |
| This is totally racist i its concept & implementation as I pointed out to the Chairperson & Executive of the NZ Medical Association(95% of NZ medical Drs). I received no response so as an Hon. Fellow ( a reward for services rendered) I had no hesitation in resigning my Membership | Hylton |
| Recipe for more division and a long term disaster which will not change health outcomes | peter |
| The sooner the Government realizes that we are one people the better. Bad life health choices are not confined to maori. | Dennis |
| They do have a history of financial fraud and mismanagement. Our system is tested by history and should be kept. | Christine |
| Miss appropiation of funds will occur by maori interests. ie maory elite | John |
| ONE system for ALL please | Douglas |
| Absolutely not acceptable for any entity receiving taxpayer funds to not also be accountable to those taxpayers | Kevin |
| If the new Maori Health Authority is funded by taxpayers, it should be accountable to taxpayers. | Jacky |
| They will rip the system off as they have done in the past. Just look at the Tainui Waitangi payout years ago. Only the tribal elite got the money while the majority of the tribe got very little if any. This will be no different except all non- Maori Kiwis will be robbed. | Garry |
| If this comes to pass we will end up like Zimbabwe & wait for the white flight from a once democratic NZ | Warren |
| As usual tribal rule antidemocratic it | Albert |
| How can this be anything but a money grab by Maori elitists. The government are being very quiet on this. They know the people will not have this happen with their knowledge | Roy |
| No this is creating more division | Naomi |
| The plan is Not democratic and it is divisive to all NZ | David |
| If we are paying them they should be accountable. | Brian |
| As I’ve said before, it is theft on a grand scale. | Geoff |
| It’s simply not fair. NZ has always used the phrase “Fair Go”. It’s a New Zealand Mantra. This New Health Authority smacks of Racism. Not acceptable of the World Stage- Why ? Look at The BLM issues created and worse it smacks of Apartheid- not really how NZ should be viewed on the world stage. | Philip |
| Will it be acceptable to withhold tax because the tribal elitists will not be accountable to taxpayers? Don’t bank on it! This would be pure, abject racism, brought about by a Government which has got well out of hand. | Kevan |
| In pursuit of their flawed ideaology, Jacinda Ardern and her government are displaying their utter contempt for all but a favoured few New Zealanders. Third world corruption on a grand scale. | Donald |
| This is so bad that it is unbelievable. | June |
| I am sick of hearing about the poor hard done by Maori they have exactly the same access to hospitals and Health providers as any other person in this country this is pure racism condoned by our Communist Leader Government She has to go along with the rest of her comrades. | John |
| What a bloody farce.Here we have billion dollar tribes who hide behind a trust,who pay no tax!!And they want the NZ tax payer to front up with billions of dollars with no accountability.The sooner you piss off Horse mouth .the better for NZ.you are splitting a great country in half | Ross |
| One system for all New Zealanders, accountable to all New Zealanders | Graham |
| What is proposed by the Labour Government is absolutely absurd!! | Murray |
| Such info stated regarding this revision of the Health System, are totally distortions of the truth, and should never see the light of day, in a proper government!!!!! | Roy |
| certainly not acceptable as it will only result in the maori elite creaming billion off us white tax payers | eric |
| What next the mind boggles 15 per cent of the population running the country well I don’t think so who is letting this happen why don’t Maori take a good look at there diet take a look in there shopping basket at any supermarket enough said | Peter |
| billions of taxpayer dollars handed to the control of iwi leaders, without full accountability, and without a public mandate, is scandalous. | KATRINA |
| All public money must be openly accountable to the public and subjected to inspection by the Auditor General | tony |
| It’s scandalous. The PM should be removed from office.forthwith. She is a traitor to NZ. | Peter |
| This is a travesty of democracy | Simonne |
| Jacinda Ardern continues to give Maori total control of our country ,needs to go to go before N.Z. is completely down the tubes Seeking her own desire of more votes. | Ann |
| Many Maori health problems are self inflicted e.g. drugs , booze .arrogance , obesity. multiple pregnancies and they have been privileged too be able to access what has , in the past,, been recognised as a world class health system . There is room for NON RACE BASED improvement certainly , but the proposed changes are dangerously racist and will be detrimental to health care in N.Z. | Barrie |
| Any one who thinks they are not accountable is a greedy lunatic and if Christopher Luxon is not more forthright in comments regarding the ridiculous claims that those greedy part Maori are making this country will be communist/racist run after the next election. Wake up New Zealand, this is not Aotearoa. | Tom |
| NO… Jacinda and her communist cronies must be dumped NOW before they totally destroy NZ | Bruce |
| The sooner processes are put is place to sack this government the better. ! | Rick |
| Racist. | Blair |
| It hasn’t worked in the past. | Dave |
| Beyond unaceptable-treasonous. | kevin |
| No it is not. When does this racist nonsense stop. | Addrianne |
| This is obscene – Maori should be more responsible for their health – obesity, smoking, alcohol, child poverty, living standards | Dianne |
| There is no place in NZ for racism particularly govt instituted racism | Richard |
| Like everything these last few years everything is changing to Maori ownership in a country they are only 15% of and from those 15% 99.9% have mostly European blood, another type of naming grab, land grab money grab for the elite couple of Maoris, in (NEW ZEALAND) “NOT” Aotearoa we all have to learn the language of the few to know where or what anything is now A TOTAL DISASTER!!!! | Laurie |
| NO, NO A THOUSAND TIMES NO | Bruce |
| Dishonest and disgraceful | richard |
| Aparthied here we come ! | Stewart |
| It is simply preposterous | John |
| Not only unacceptable- it is outrageous | Terry |
| Very unhealthy way to go for all New Zealanders, will almost certainly collapse in time. Typical Ardern socialist initiative, power to the few. This goes also for all the other like proposed so called initiatives. | Owen |
| No. No. No. this is 100 % racist and apartheid. It is 100% contrary to the principle expressed in the preamble to the Treaty about the need to avoid the evil of having different trikes for Maori and Pakeha! | Rob |
| Outrageous!! | Mike |
| With no accountability that the money is actually being spent on health, the overall health system will deteriorate. | Michele |
| The paper written by Dr Lawrie Knight was very enlightening.It proves beyond any doubt that Labour and the Maori Greedies are totally wrong in their assertions that racism and bias exist in the current health system. The big question is : Why are the New Zealand Human Rights Commission allowing this to happen ? Are they too weak to stand up for the rights of all in this country. | Steve |
| All recipients of public money should be subject to audit and accountability | Mark |
| Wouldn’t trust them with anything | Mike |
| We must ask our selves why is the government pushing racism at every chance it gets. The reason is divide and conquer, they wont us to fight each other, the little down trodden Maori minority v the white male capitalist colonist majority, that way they can control the narrative, anything said against Maori will be considered hate speech, and out lawed, the proper gander machine using NZ tax payers money will roll over us leaving us think how wrong we where to trust Government | Noel |
| You cannot have separate systems based on ethnicity and ask the other group to pay for it through their taxes. Iwi should be fronting the entrie bill they have millions if not billions. Every non Maori should be fighting this. The worst thing is Maori have European in them so its a really absurd bill. | Chaquila |
| Apartheid at work | Warren |
| If we, the public, pay the bill we of course must hold them to account | Harvey |
| The proposed Health Authority is separatism and therefore apartheid. | John |
| Repeal all race based policies immediately! There is no right way of doing Apartheid | Tjaart |
| All tax dollars should be accounted for regardless of who receives them. | Mark |
| literally a form of genocide against white or other races of people. NO, IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE! There should be no need for a separate Maori Health System. We are supposed to be ONE PEOPLE, with Equality for ALL! If they want to set up a system like that, then they HAVE TO BE FULLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS! If they want to pay for it themselves out of their Iwi Trusts, then it is up to them how they deal with it. But if it is Taxpayers money, then EVERY SINGLE CENT HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR. IT WILL BE DEMANDED BY THE MAJORITY! But, of course, this idiotic Tribalism concept they are looking at introducing will not involve Democracy. Why should 17% of the population have the right to force all other ethnicities, and there are many, to come under their rules? Equality for ALL is what is required……nothing else! | Heather |
| And all Closing the Gaps type organizations should also be audited and where there is criminal malfescents, inefficiency or incompetence this needs to be exposed and dealt with. | Brenton |
| NZers should be equal. Immigrants, all rces. | Marie |
| Nothing that is going on right now is appropriate | Alastair |
| FRAK NO | Anon |
| Whanau Ora should also be subjected to annual audit by OAG. This is yet another rort on taxpayers being orchestrated and controlled by Iwi. Just another giant step towards New Zimbabwe. | Chris |
| I spoke to a well respected doctor yesterday. He believed that the Maori would have guidance input only. I suspect his head was in the sand. Go Governance with a casting vote is not guidance only. | John |
| any tax payer funded organization should be accountable, Maoris have enjoyed billions of dollars for spurious reasons (re opening Hicks bay meat works) nothing has come of any of these hand outs and no one is held to account | Stanley |
| In a democracy all government institutions should be accountable to the public. No exceptions. | Aj |
| This government is making decisions by stealth. At no time in the election year did we know of their intentions to push for co governance and we are still not fully informed of their intentions. We can be passive spectators to this, but I for one will be actively voicing and backing those who can stop this divisive and undemocratic so called government. | yeverley |
| Continued sepratism from comrade ardern and the rest of the incompetents. | Sid |
| This country campaigned against the evil of apartheid. Why are we doing this? Get a grip Kiwis! | Samuel |
| I feel sick each time I hear Maori state this is not a takeover. of our health services. | Jasmine |
| This is illegal and unbelievable | Moyra |
| More of Ardern apartheid coming your way | bud |
| After years of education and assistance I consider the colonization ploy and the Treaty Tribunal need to be laid to rest. In a democracy all have equal rights. If Maori want a separate system then I suggest they shoulder the cost and not rely on the majority for funding. Take a good look at society those who do not take care of themselves and their health, suffer the consequences it is not generally race or gender related Start taking responsibility for ones actions and stop blaming others, but of course it will continue as will the handouts. Labour seem hell bent on abdication of their responsibilities to all NZers through layered governance, Which will be costly and unjust to the majority. They have a responsibility to all NZers, especially the taxpayer & not to the perceived down trodden minority. Where is the so called NZers spine? | Bryan |
| Very badly presented poll question. Is confusing. I am old and glad that I don’t have to try and run my business’s under this evil Government. | Albyn |
| Of course they must be accountable. It is unfortunate that many Maori enterprises have failed because of an inability to see just where the money is going, | Robbie |
| Worldwide, nations have been fighting for thousands of years to shake off the drawbacks of tribal rule; yet certain factions in this country seem determined to drag us back in the opposite direction. | peter |
| Disgusting | Keith |
| Obviously we have a dictatorship when we are supposed to have democracy. How did we get here? | Gay |
| How could it be acceptable-it is mot possible at all. | David |
| Blatant DISGRACE makes the evil authoritarian and bigoted doctrines of Pol Pot look like a Sunday School Service for community by Mother Theresa! Surely the majority are not this stupid that we just go along with this nonsense, just because it’s an easy woke or PC compatible ride? When does ALL THIS nonsense STOP? | Graham |
| Jacinda and her MOB need to go. leave the health system as is. | william |
| It has become a sad situation that our current Government already has been taken over by a minority elements that are not acting in the best interests of New Zealand citizens. This element is only interested in enriching themselves and in grabbing sovereign power. This situation is akin to a cancerous growth that was started by a collective “chip on the shoulder” movement from the 60’s. As with with all such sicknesses it has to be cut out ASAP before it destroys all together the main life support organs. On the other hand what is being proposed will eventually run out of other peoples money and we will all be broke. It’s on us all to put an end to this deleterious nonsense before it is too late, which I suspect is already past the point of no return. | Garry |
| Another indication of Jacinda and Labors SOCIAL Engineering by this government that was NOT elected by the Voters, and NOW has even less support of the electorate. | Carl |
| there should not be a maori health board | brian |
| Just one more step towards Apartheid, led by the radical tribal elite. Maori will be no better off and $billions will be misappropriated. Absolute disgrace. | Peter |
| Nothing about us without us | john |
| Certainly disagree | Diana |
| It is not acceptable that the proposal for a separate Maori health Authority has got this far. The enormous amount of money spent on it to date would have gone some way to fixing some of the issues underlying ill health in many New Zealanders. | Anon |
| This is a fine example of APARTHIED CONTROL not Democracy. All this is a setup for the Tribal Elites to operate without any accountability what so ever. Yea Naaaa | Geoff |
| Changes being made by this labour govt are based on dogma not factual evidence. | Cliff |
| Totally unacceptable | Philip |
| I was a nurse for 41 years in a maori populated area and it is not acceptable. | Rosalie |
| If one eyes are open this unaccountability is how this government has survived recently. I see this as a major part of their master plan ……… | Stuart |
| No no no a thousand times no, this is total madness and there has never and will never be a co=partnership between maorii and the crown. | Carolyn |
| One sun under one sky | John |
| It is no more than a scam. | Ian |
| We already have NZ govt run by Maori. I told people that with this govt you now see what NZ would be like run by Maori. This must be the most dishonest corrupt govt we have ever had. | Mike |
| This is scary and unacceptable, we need to give the Govt what it fails to see that the NZ public are not happy. All this Maori stuff is getting more worrying by the day. | Barbara |
| PLEEEZ stop this reverse racism which is splitting our wonderful country NEW ZEALAND – (not ayoteearower). | Brian |
| To think that a Maori based, private entity, with no public accountability over how taxpayer funds are spent, or achievement, and has veto control over the health system decision making is truly scandalous and fir the sake of all New Zealand, stopped immediately. | Peter |
| MOre rubbish from the radical left, time for them to go , its pathetic that the media do not cover whats going on, a strong indicator of who controls what in our country. | craig |
| Maori intellectuals and Trubal corporations truly believe that New Zealand is post democratic. | Matt |
| All Health Authorities should be fully accountable to all New Zealand taxpayers. | Shaun |
| She is making anyone who is not a maori a second class citizen. | Ann |
| All taxpayer funded bodies MUST be fully accountable to the public in both how they spend their funding and the outcomes derived. They must always be measured against their forecasts and targets and be made to explain shortfalls in performance. | Derek |
| We must not have a separate health system based on race. Having worked as a professional health worker for many years never did I encounter any discrimination in regards to Maori. What I did encounter was many did not follow the treatment advised even if it was given by a Maori health professional. Individuals must take responsibility for their own health. A separate health system will not solve this individual problem.it will only cause widespread division , it basically is a form of apartheid and will line the pockets of the elite Maori once again, especially if it is not accountable to its spending. | Jacqui |
| How do we stop this agenda? The only way is to have a change of Government at the 2023 election, but who gets the nod? Act hav become very clear on their stance BUT National have skirted around all the questions regarding Co Governance. WHY ??? are their keeping evasive in their comments for fear of being labeled racist or do they also want the so called Maori Vote. 20years of a system of “by Maori, For Maori” has been a failure who the Waitangi Tribunal refused to comment on in their demands. | Barry |
| A blatant excuse to provide race based “health care”, ie: line the pockets of a select group of “elites” | Phillip |
| We should not be surprised in a country that is now deeply entrenched in APARTHEID. | Geoff |
| It is simply undemocratic | douglas |
| Democracy? | Doris |
| Racial segregation in health – how low can Labour sink? | Trevor |
| 110% against it!! | John |
| Racist Jacinda. | bruce |
| On Average, Maori people are more overweight than Pakia, due to their living style and diet. Just have a look on Maori TV Channel 5l when they do their concerts !! | Pierre |
| I am truly embarrassed to see so much apathy from my fellow citizens. Ardern and Putin seem to operate in a separate universe to the rest of us. | Jim |
| A scandalist waste of time and taxpayers money. But nothing new here – normal behaviour from this government!! | John |
| Absolutely Not. As in any business with a budget there must be accountability to the Tax Payer. | Caren |
| This is an outrage and must be stopped in its tracks | Murray |
| Please ask JACINDA if Mairi will be able to go to the non mairi health system? And can white people attend the mairi health system? Such a race bases system is abhorrent, racist and a shocking waste of money. We tax payers may have to boycott paying tax to these Maori only nonsense,especially as all Maori corporations DO NOT PAY TAX. Get them to fund their own hospitals for their own people and try staffing them too. Fat chance!where is the statistic to show now much tax each Maori pays in comparison to the rest of the population? Without checks on the Maori businesses, we know from the past where the money will go, to those on top, the elite. This is sickening. | Claire |
| Apartheid, in any form, is not acceptable in any society | Tom |
| Nothing about the new authority is acceptable! | gail |
| Most of us will remember Maori TV which was also non accountable. How many Tesla or Audi E Trons will the new health authority need. I’ m sure there will be competition as to who can get the highest spec. model, because they are the most important leader. | Geoff |
| Typical Maori unacceptable lies. | Graeme |
| This in itself is racist by the minority | Rusty |
| It’s scandalous. NZ’s need a referendum on this . There are too many untruths being told by Jacinda Ardern we need a public consultation immediately | Linda |
| Have run out of patience with this garbage – we need a strong government to roll all this crap up and treat everyone as equal regardless of colour, race etc. etc. etc… It will not happen of course, they do not have the courage. | Roy |
| With out any a accountability!!!!!!! Is criminal. | Joan |
| This Labour government will persist in its race based policies which is unacceptable | Allan |
| Just another labour government stitchup of the public | Peter |
| Any organisation which receives money from public taxes should be accountable for it’s spending. | Kristina |
| Public Health services must be equally available to all New Zealanders regardless of race or colour. | David |
| This is bloody outrageous!! What sort of democratic gov’t would tolerate this type of Maori tribalism. Ardern and her sycophants need to be replace with a common sense party like ACT. | Tony |
| A key pillar of democracy is accountability. This Maori Health Authority is untenable and therefore completely unacceptable | Gavin |
| what a joke….this govt really has to be voted out ; too much permanent damage has already been done to NZ | Roy |
| We can see clearly where all this would lead with the recent ” Three Waters” vote from the Dunedin City Council. Unelected Maori members throwing their toys out of the cot in a huff and walking out because the council decided to vote against the Three Waters proposals. We simply cannot agree with this type of apartheid system in New Zealand. | Janine |
| Another social engineering experiment by nz communist got designed to disenfranchise mainstream nz | Bill |
| He pua pua MUST be stopped entirely. It is blatant apartheid. | Elizabeth |
| An ACT style vote on the question would be a good idea (Maori in my wider family would vote that down) understandable pity National won’t get on board. | Ian |
| The sad part of this is the woke think this is a game – a reversible game where when it goes wrong it can be changed. This happened with “defund the police”, affirmative action etc but the damage is extensive and not reversible. | John |
| Absolutely not acceptable. | David |
| One health system for all. Asians are not calling for their own health system. Personal responsibility is the key to better health outcomes. | Tony |
| Some people need to stop hiding behind mistaken beliefs and get out in the world and look after themselves | Wade |
| the history of these greedy, minority racists show that they will take any advantage of any power or responsibility given, 3 waters cogovernance for example. | philip |
| Its Apartheid in reverse blatant racism | murray |
| god forbid | Robin |
| Maori in general, have every opportunity to have their health needs met, throughout New Zealand, just the same as all others. COVID virus vaccination uptakes showed how poorly most people of “maori” heritage were indifferent to protecting themselves and their families. The usual incentives were given to iwi. MONEY Twenty years of billions of taxpayers money given to maori health initiatives and yet still no improvement in major health!!! | Darryl |
| Major systemic changes to our democracy are being steamrollered in. This is not our New Zealand, it is a racist socialist nightmare. | David |
| Unbelievable! A pity that so many voted for for Ardern thereby allowing all of this to happen. | Anon |
| democratic process must be a bottom line always | Ken |
| Once again we are faced with more spin and lies coming from the so called most transparent govt and let’s not forget the PM was going to govern for everyone. What a joke. | Jane |
| The question shouldn’t even have to be asked. | Hilary |
| Here we go again: More tinkering by the muppets in charge, that will inevitably lead to another disaster, which will once again have to be rescued by the tax-payer in years to come. It really looks like the lunatics are in charge of the assylum! | Jan |
| No way | Roy |
| Any and all Govt funded organisations should be subject to scrutiny. The recent handouts over the “Covid” period are alarming and have produced few good results. Not good enough. | Steve |
| Definitely not I am fed up with all this racist propaganda after all we are supposed to be all NewZealanders | Barbara |
| Typical moarification strategy to give them money with no accountability for what happens to it – Troughers gain – we lose. | Clive |
| This would be government enforced racism against all New Zealanders who are not Maori. | Stuart |
| There appears to be no agency holding local and central Governments to account for wasteful spending and for not themselves ensuring accountability when they dole out money and reorganise systems.The governments are more concerned with keeping themselves elected than what is best for NZers. Higher intellects are required for the job of running a country with job descriptions required. | Denise |
| the current pm has created and allowed far more division and racism in New Zealand than anyone would/could have imagined. This proposed change in the Health System without public consultation and discussion reaffirms the need for a change of government | jenny |
| Just so anti democratic it is almost unbelievable. 17% of the taxpayers will receive 50% of the money and will have more than equality as they will have power of veto over anything that doesn’t go their way. We are becoming the proverbial lemmings and heading for the cliff. | Adrian |
| Racial bias is never an answer acceptable in any democracy. | Alastair |
| Blatant racism. Accountability for expenditure of public money is a must. Always has been and always must be | John |
| If it is not accountable to tax payers; it should not be funded by taxpayers | George |
| Appalling apartied tribalism. We will become like South Africa | Laurine |
| No accountability of public taxpayer money = no taxpayer money should be given at all | Laurine |
| This stuff is really pissing me off | Bob |
| Not now, not ever. | Fred |
| No wonder there is an exodus of people leaving NZ now that international flights are back up and running. This Labour Government headed up by a Prime Minister who can only be described as cunning and a liar has her own agenda to destroy the existing way of life for the majority of New Zealander’s. I cannot believe that National and Act are not screaming this from the rooftops. Never has New Zealand had such a despicable Prime Minister and she and her regime need to be voted out of power. Race based legislation enacted by her regime needs to repealed as the first priority of the new incoming Government. He Puapua needs to be shredded and burnt. | Colin |
| This is a massive brownwash | Philip |
| Not printable | Russ |
| I not only have to apologise for being a non-maori, but I now the new underprivileged and subservient to a minority race. WE HAVE APARTHEID! | Denis |
| Racist | Brett |
| Every health authority no matter what the race , should be accountable when spending tax payers public funded money. | Christina |
| Public Health should deliver to all New Zealanders who need health services based on needs not on skin colour. Anything specifically for Maori should be accountable to the taxpayer. This is more murky policy from this government which has no transparency. No transparency will mean more abuse of tax payer funds. | Ann |
| Of course not. It cannot be independent if it relies on funding from non-maori taxpayers. | Gordon |
| Such a system would justify taxpayers refusing to pay tax. Bring on the revolution! | Alan |
| No it is not acceptable, the pampered race will have to be treated equally one day with the rest of us so why not start now. So we can finally have what the Maoris have and we can all be treated equally. The Treaty was a merger between two peoples and we were a democracy. What Jacinda is doing is the very opposite. | Eric |
| At the moment bullshit spin rules the waves, if you are maori you will be aloud to ride those waves, everyone else will just be by standers, | Sven |
| I’m speechless! | Michael |
| Any Authority funded with Public Money must be made Accountable to the Taxpayer who are paying their wages | Laurel |
| I read this with a mounting sense of disbelief – then reality kicked in. The usual suspects were at it again! Not only is this monstrosity unacceptable, it should never have been countenanced in the first place! If the iwi elite want a “Maori Health Authority” then let them fund it themselves by tapping into the billions of dollars they have screwed out of the long-suffering NZ taxpayer for as long as anyone can remember. I fear that NZ will be brought to ruin if this process is allowed to proceed unchecked. | Scott |
| Every time tax payers money is used it must be accountable | Alan |
| Racism | John |
| Absolutely designed by our Control Freak Vaxcinda. | Chris |
| EVERY New Zealander has EQUAL opportunities to good health, good education and yet they want special treatment in everything. They STILL can’t be bothered to get off of their a##es to get vaccinated. Even though FREE TAXIS were made available to them Now, $140million of overseas loan money has been given “to assist with Maoris & polynesians get jabs??!! Who or what national organisation gets this money and HOW is it being spent. Detailed accounts needed. But, no chance of that – the money will ‘disappear’ with NO checks & balances and NO accountability!! | Edwin |
| Why should 15% of population who in most cases have very very little Maori blood get funded for a system that is obviously going to be unaccountable to anyone,if this goes ahead those we prefer a Maori health authority should have no access or say in the Health system for the rest of the population | Chris |
| Absolute disgrace the sooner this dreadful Govt is gone the sooner we can regain our right of Democracy. We will be paying for this not Maori – just cant happen | Tony |
| No taxation without representation. this is a primary tenet of democracy. Co-governance – no way. These people are making suckers out of the taxpayers.. | Bruce |
| But how do we stop it | Andrew |
| Accountability accountability accountability!! | Jason |
| a rip off again | Gill |
| Totally unacceptable. The proposal is undemocratic, racist and divisive. | Laurence |
| Undemocratic. | mary |
| Totally irresponsible | John |
| If IWI wants their people be healthier, why are they NOT paying for it, but US. Another apartheid South African ploy. | peter |
| Where does massive deception come from ? | Maurice |
| No! Race-based apartheid sickness. “What is a Communist? One who has yearnings For equal division of unequal earnings; Idler or bungler, or both, he is willing To fork out his penny and pocket your shilling.” – Ebenezer Elliott, b. 17 March 1781,Masbrough, England | Don |
| No it is not acceptable. Any tax funded entity must be scrutinized and results accessible to the public who after all have made this possible through their tax payments | Heather |
| Absolutely not. | Willy |
| Why is this not broadcasted to the public. Why do we never read or hear any of this in a public forum that the Joe Boggs person gets to hear about. They make up most of the country’s voters and users of the public health system yet won’t be aware of these issues. All my friends feel the same as you on all the tribalism issues you have written about but are too scared to say anything in public in case they are shamed as being racist. We are not and many of us are part Maori or have part Maori children or grandchildren etc. This is not democracy, this is not fair, this is so wrong to everyone who cannot claim a smidgeon of Maori. And, it is dividing my family as two of my boys have children with no Maori genes and one son’s children are all half Maori so they get everything for half price as one of my sons says! Not fair! | Lynne |
| This cannot happen !!! | Kevin |
| NO it,s OUR TAX MONEY she is giving away when those so called ELITE IWI have MILLIONS & MILLIONS given to them & their should be NO MAORI children going to school hungry or without shoes,NO MAORI not being able to get good health care,ALL MAORI houses should have been renovated if the GHREEDY IWI had shared those MILLIONS they got from treaty settlements with ordinary maoris like they were SUPPOSED to,there should NOT BE ANY MAORI POVERTY & now jacinda is giving them a veto on our 1/2 of the health system BUT we are NOT allowed any say in their 1/2.Where is NATIONAL & will they even stick up for us 85% ignored NZealanders.EMAIL LUXON & ASK WHY HE WILL SAY NOTHING OR GIVE NZealanders a referendum on ALL THIS MAORI B..ShitOnly 10 years ago you could read THE TRUTH what maoris were like on google but now its all been removed-they certainly were,nt the peaceful people they claim & our children are being b rainwashed at school to believe.If a poll was taken to see where our ancestors came from you,d see OVER 80% of us had NO ANCHESTORS who were in the British army & yet even though NZ hospitals,schools,ETC NEED money jacinda is giving OUR TAX MONEY to greedy,lying iwi.EMAIL LUXON EVERY-ONE HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS THE TOP OF THIS NEWSLETTER-DONT WAIT IT,S TOO URGENT,jacinda NEEDS STOPPING and everyone who,s on any social media get the details what MOST NORTH ISLAND MAORI IWI,s are worth & let the world know & let them also know jacinda is introducing APARTHEID & giving tax payer money to BILLIONAIRE IWI.The more the world knows the better,if our media could be trusted to report everything NZealanders would know how corrupt jacinda & labour are. | Cindy |
| Taxpayers money must be totally accountable for. Seems to me to be another snouts in the public trough. | Gary |
| More racism from komrade Jacinda.. what’s new? | Rob |
| Absolutely not. Public expenditure must have Public accountability – which means a visible audit trail. Anything else will breed corruption. | Francis |
| just another example of the lunacy and racist intents of the current mob that are doing their very best to hand control of this country to 15% of the population based on ethnicity. An absolute recipe for disaster and the final step in acquiring ‘banana republic’ status for NZ | dave |
| We need a health system that is based on need regardless of race. Spend the 20 million in “Advertising” on more beds, more Dr’s and Nurses and targeted community education on healthy life styles. Unlike current govt offering “KFC” rewards for getting jabbed! | Rita |
| Why are so many New Zealanders (non maori) so totally unaware of the aparthied thats being established in NZ ?? (I don’t care what happens in Aotearoa ) | warwick |
| These idiots (the unrestrained all-powerful Labour/ Maori coalition) are frog-marching New Zealanders into APARTHEID. New Zealand is doomed unless we can get rid of this racist incompetent government. | Patrick |
| They should never be created & in my view are totally inappropriate. Health outcomes for Maori will not improve under a Maori Health Authority as they are never measured. But just watch the costs escalate!!! | Gerald |
| ‘No taxation without representation ‘as the saying goes and how true it is | William |
| This is just another flawed pro Iwi reform promoted by misguided socialism. Research and past experiences demonstrate the issues are related other contributing socio economic factors. Wide range far reaching restructure as proposed will have disastrous social and racial implications fuelling the ever growing anti Maori sentiment in general society to disastrous proportion. Political representation should in my view represent fairly the majority. That doesn’t rule out support to the under privileged but this should not be on racial basis. | Chris |
| When will this ever stop ??no wonder 20,000 kiwis are about to leave NZ | Gil |
| No it is not ok. Public expenditure must have accountability and to be seen to function efficiently. It would be tantamount to having an open cheque book. We have seen in the past were these groups have completely mismanaged their funding allocation and produced very little in return. | chris |
| Taxpayers work so hard for every dollar that every cent of taxes should not be wasted. The whole system is very corrupt. | Donald |
| Racism at its worst | John |
| Just like Mainstream Media, throwaway lines with no basis of fact seem to be acceptable. Come up with a great one-liner that put Maori in the Victim position (Missionary position or bum-up over a barrel visual freeze frame) when in fact the Iwi Elite are nothing more than clever, articulate Law Loopholers that have taken advantage of some education and White Man’s Guilt. The likes of Andrew Little and the Race Relations Commissioner have Altruistic Beliefs that do not bear the scrutiny of practical application. The One-liner on that is White Man in Hawkes Bay thinks it’s raining in Porirua by licking his finger and putting it in the air. | Johnny |
| ALL Government departments and Ministries should be accountable to taxpayers for their respective spend – and should include ALL Organisations that are government funded. This is merely another ladder for Jacinda in her climb towards becoming SG of the United Nations in a bid to outperform Helen Clark. It is obvious that she is pandering to the UN in her policy drives in an effort to gain their support and ultimate election to the senior post. | Martin |
| This country is going to the dogs- people will be leaving in their droves. | Kevin |
| The very concept is racist and corrupt. Health funding should be needs based. Ethnicity has nothing to do with it. No accountability for funding is just another layer of corruption. Welcome to The Banana Republic of New Zealand. | Wendy |
| Horrific proposal…no no no. As a nurse of many years never saw Maori being treated in a lesser way than the rest of the population. | Shirley |
| This is an outrage …reverse racism at its finest and most disgusting. I so wish I could leave this once amazing place to live | Julie |
| Unbelievable! How do we bring all this to the attention of the general public who mainly have no idea as to what is going on. Most people are too afraid to be vocal about this as immediately they will be labled ‘Racist” | Peter |
| I cannot see what is NOT apartheid in this system. It’s division by race and is simply unacceptable and downright dangerous. The sooner this is overturned the better. | Roger |
| This is straight out theft from the NZ public . | Wendy |
| NZ is in a very dangerous place. We are leaving! | kate |
| Well we all can see what’s going to happen here. Who is going to be first to rip the system off? They will be lining up to fill their pockets and provide well paid jobs for their cuzzies. What a bloody joke this is, could only happen under this current pack of lunatics in power now. | Peter |
| All spending of taxpayer funds should be open to public scrutiny. | Paul |
| Anyone or organisation that receives public funding must be held accountable for the use of those funds. | Paul |
| This is another disaster waiting to happen as usual! People need to be accountable and even moreso if those people make up only 8% of our population. We’ve heard it before and we’ll hear it again, “Where did all the money go?”, and “We need more money “. Grrr | Anne |
| Just another brick in the wall | Barry |
| sadly this Govt has lost the plot and given the Maoiri’s free reign at the expense of the ordinary tax payer | Russell |
| ri ancestry without having to provide any kind of evidence. If any shred of democracy can be salvaged after this wicked, deceitful, lying Labour Party is thrown out it will cost billions of dollars to try to regain what is being stolen from the majority of New Zealanders every day. Ardern is a total disgrace. My ancestors arrived in NZ in 1838, 1845 and 1865 from Scotland, England, Ireland, Jersey, France and Germany. My grandfather fought at Gallipoli. They worked extremely hard to build good families here and improved the lives of many Maori they helped. I believe they would be horrified, as am I and most of my friends, at the evils being wrought today. | Pauline |
| Taxpayers money should be fully accounted for and spending transparent. | Chris |
| racist bullshit ! | Bryan |
| Just not fair and reasonable. NZ people must have equal rights to everything including health services. | Neil |
| Unbelievable folly yet again from our totally inept government. This government will ruin this country and most likely to a point beyond repair. I’m part-Maori, 66 years old and seriously considering a move to another country. How sad is that?! | Mark |
| Just another reason to dump this bunch of nitwits. For goodness sake New Zealand WAKE UP before its too late. | Don |
| Labour please stop trying to divide NZ with race based undemocratic policies. | Steve |
| Maori Health must be fully accountable to taxpayers if they are using taxpayers money.As Maori entities invariably fail and are often disfunctional it is very frightening to think they will have so much power over the running of our Health Service. | Gail |
| Absolutely essential that effective accountability measures be applied with appropriate reporting to all stakeholders. | Peter |
| Must be subject to audit | Deborah |
| Past control by Maori of very important financial outcomes ( Treaty of Waitangi Settlements) have been managed behind “closed doors” without any public scrutiny or accountability. This has led to some settlements that are unbelievable. Where in the Western World is this accepted as appropriate? Nowhere to my knowledge, so how has this happened. To now give Maori the right to essentially manage and control our Health System with no form of accountability is ongoing confirmation of the totalitarian communist path of where the Labour Government is taking NZ. We are now seeing China imposing a foothold in the Solomon’s. Jacinda has been cozy with the CCP since she has been Prime Minister, watch this space, if we as New Zealanders do not remove the Labour Government and the Maori Party from controlling our future, it will not be long before China start spraying the $ around here. | Steve |
| Absolute disaster in the making Having Maori in control is not going to change the lifestyle habits of Maori | Karen |
| The Maori separatist control needs to be scrapped in its entirety! | Greg |
| There should not even be a Maori Health Authority … full stop. | Des |
| We’re paying-someone has to be accountable | Ted |
| There is no other description for this but apartheid. The experience of Whanau Ora, where it was virtually impossible to see where the money was spent, must be an indicator of what will happen under iwi control. There can be no handing over control to race base authorities. Who are these iwi leaders? Let us have some names, let us see some faces, let us see the nepotism and further government corruption. We should NEVER even consider being ruled by faceless despots of any race. Let’s ask Maori whether they would prefer to be treated by a non-maori (be they Asia, European of whatever) with qualifications or a tohunga with, what? In fact, let’s ask Maori if they want life under tribal rule. The health ministry has been completely screwed up under the stewardship of this present incompetent minister. Not one additional ICU bed provided during the two-year covid fearmongering. How many critical care workers have been mandated out of their employment? How many people have died needlessly because of the government’s lockdowns and mandates? How many health professionals have been kept from entering the country due to the incompetence of the Minister of Immigration? How much economical damage has been caused by this government since they have been in office? How much more will they do before they leave? Polls show them on the way out, they should do the honourable thing and admit that they have ambition but absolutely no ability. RESIGN | Terry M |
| The bloody Maori’s cannot run anything correctly, they always stuff it up. | don |
| RAcist | Tom |
| Where is the groundswell of outrage against the handover to 17% of the NZ population? | Mike |
| shocking and shonky.We are sick of maori blaming everyone but themselves for the poor discipline that causes their health outcomes | mike |
| just shows how corrupt and loony this govt is by saying that they want co-governance with a select few greedy mobs and when you have the likes of little dribbling about the treaty which should be scrapped and him charged with many others with treason to get this country back to what it once was ” a decent country” but after listening to the national leader he’s going to just as bad as our dictator and her bent mob regarding co-governance so unfortunately this country is ****** | Richard |
| I work in the health sector. We must stop this proposed change as it will cause a health system with NO accountability. | Sue |
| All for one and one for all – Separate human rights race based is apartheid | Leeanne |
| Never! | Bruce |
| All organisations that are funded by the taxpayer MUST be fully accountable. | Rod |
| This will end up to be a total waste of taxpayers money. My experience of the Maori health so far is a grandoise hierachy with no results | Errol |
| Terrible stuff we are domed. God bless New Zealand. | Royce |
| This is just another of the Labour Government’s shams, smoke-n-mirrors, fudging the truth and most of all being RACIST to the Extreme. There will be no accountability as to how the funds are spent. Iwi Elite like all things they touch, will channel most of the funds the into their own means and the so-called Maori health system will be starved of funds for those who need it most. Forget about the rest of NZ – there will be no thing left for them. A shocking, deceitful, and hidden agenda which will NOT WASH with New Zealanders. | Robyn |
| Absolutely not – this is the most disgustingly racist piece of legislation ever attempted in NZ The relative health spend per Maori person has already been significantly higher than non Maori for many years now – and this despite all the Maori only support mechanisms that are already in place. Stand up and be counted NZ! | Nick |
| Anything that is taxpayer funded should be for the benefit of ALL New Zealanders, not just one group. To allow an entity to be unaccountable leads to bad management and the possibility of unlawful activity. | Leslie |
| Public money, public scrutiny | Raymond |
| All taxpayer funds used in the NZ health system must be fully accountable and available for public audit. | Simon |
| This is so wrong on a lot of levels | Debbie |
| It is scandalous!! | Heather |
| What nonsense we have to contend with here. Lets get back to being New Zealanders. | Jenny |
| what a stupid idea, of course we need the system to be accountable at all times. Tell Maories: Hands off.!!!! | gerard |
| It is an absolute disgrace, the whole thing. | Brenda |
| Completely outrageous proposal which demonstrates the incompetence of our current government. | Bruce |
| we want equality not destruction of our democracy. | Margaret |
| If they are spending someones else’s money they have to be accountable. All taxpayer funds need to be fully accountable | Andrew |
| The labour government is out of control and should be jailed for treason. | chris |
| Let us be clear about this : this whole charade about Maori health is just a smoke screen. This is just another malignent scheme to skim off money until there is nothing left. Any excuse will do to blind and deceive the public ( and that includes ordinary Maori people. The radicals behind the screen do not care one iota about people in the first place. By 2040 this country will be another Zimbabwe. | Michael |
| this is bullshit so sick of hearing Moari getting never ending handouts bring on the civil war it cant be far away One People One Nation is the only way | Nigel |
| It should be fully accountable | Douwe |
| Nothing about this is fair or acceptable. | Chris |
| Absolutely not… | Lyn |
| Why is this happening – and everyone just standing around just taking it on the chin | Bruce |
| It is a scandal to give billions of tax payer dollars to a small elite without being accountable how it is being spent; on the basis of race. | Wietske |
| Another absolutely appalling decision by the most divisive government in New Zealand’s history. | Adele |
| Should be one nation, one people, one law and one vote. No more no less. | David |
| This is state tyranny, I am paying taxes now to a black hole, this will make the hole bottomless. | Alan |
| Labour socialist bias is destroying our country. | jeff |
| -no ,when has the millions of dollars GIV EN to part maori ever been accountable they are are a bunch of free loaders | james |
| we are supposed to be equal. | Graeme |
| Bottom line is that it is gross incompetence and racist. | David |
| This puts one race of people above the rest | Colin |
| We are all one people i New Zealand. | ingrid |
| If the poor old Maori wants it’s own Health Authority, it can bloody well pay for it them selves. They just expect the Government to pay for everything, and they contribute sweet F A. | Graham |
| No lets be black and white about this. No way is it going to happen. There is no free lunches in this world. The Waitangi Tribunal has had its time This 2022 not 1842. Are you a New Zealand er or not? No put in kitty no take out. My taxes will not be going to pay for the Maori Elite. | Frank |
| This is Racist 15% of the population controlling 85% | Warren |
| 15% of the population being paid for by the 85%. taxpayers–ridiculas | Ian |
| Never could such a rort be acceptable. Taxpayers would have every right to be outraged by this undemocratic grab of health facilities they have paid for. if Maori supremacists attempt to destroy this not-over-rich country’s health and other facilities, such as water and drainage systems paid for and worked for by ratepayers over more than a hundred years then look out, Ms Ardern. You will reap the wirlwind! | Rob |
| One Country- all babies when born care only for the best available care – if they could speak-whether it’s English- Maori and all the many ethnicities who live in New Zealand. Isn’t it strange that Maori leaders want to introduce the very apartheid umbrella that they so venomously opposed in the South Africa of old. | Phil |
| Jacinda Ardern and her caucus cronies are a disgrace. Thank you Muriel, Frank and guest authors for highlighting the deceit. | Anne |
| Excellent coverage of how things really are. | Dick |
| I am a descendant of 2 Iwi and sick of this BS of poor sick disadvantaged Maori. Our dad did not take charity and taught us that your way in life is up to you. 80% hard work and 20% luck. Us 6 kids all turned out well and made good lifestyle choices for ourselves and our children. | Wayne |
| Those who use taxpayer money must be held accountable for how they use it, just as the DHBs are currently. Is this not common sense? And just? | Pieter |
| Learn from corruption and missappropiation straight theft over the past in numerous various organisations whereby those in positions of trust have weakened and stolen/fiddled the books. Even high ranking [huh??] maori. Temptation is too big to resist. The country requires more truth and accountability> No way to this.: | mike |
| There is no country in the world with race based legislation that is a successful society or economy | John |
| How much of this is Ardern pushing for the top job at the UN and garnering supportive votes from all over Africa? The dominating maori caucus and her deceptions will lead to awful social unrest. | Dave |
| Not only is it acceptable it is an organised scandal. Maybe we all call ourselves Maori ? | gary |
| This is racism. Divide and conquer will not work here. I predict massive social disharmony if this is allowed to come to fruition. | Rob |
| If there is no accountability then this will be a complete shambles. Not unlike this JAG. This cannot see the light if day. | Nigel |
| Totally racist and unheard of in any other democratic society | Paul |
| Should be no separate health authority at all. We are all New Zealanders | Jane |
| Disgraceful that this is even being considered | Robert |
| Having worked in Wairoa Hawkes Bay and watched the water through the Hauora providers and watched how even though they had arrangements to be picked up to be taken to appointments there are some who still didn’t come and simply wouldn’t engage in the health system. Others fully engaged and looked after their own health and had fewer problems because of that. | Robin |
| Anything paid for by the taxpayers should be fully accountable to the taxpayers | Lee |
| Accountability is integral to democracy. | Sharon |
| Tax funded but excludes all kiwi’s, does not make sense in any way at all. They have had “for Maori, by Maori” for 20 sum years so clearly this is all more money grabbing. They want to create a new modern day super tribe, removing all progress made by democracy in NZ. Totally built on fraudulent lies about made up treaty “principles” and “partnerships”. | kenton |
| If I was a few years younger I would getting out of this country | Lindsay |
| Another lie from Labour | Stuart |
| Every cent of taxpayers money should be accounted for. | Helen |
| This government is disgracefully undemocratic. | Jackie |
| The sooner this useless “government” goes the better. They are a pack of idiots, forcing all this Maori crap on everyone. If the Maori want a separate health system they can pay for it from the Treaty of Waitangi settlement funds that they have received from all of New Zealand’s taxpayers!!! | david |
| Outrageous! | Elizabeth |
| We must stop this Government before our destiny and language etc is totally given over to Maori. I watched a US body language expert and psycologist. He saw a video of Jacinda and was very disturbed at what he saw. He said watch what she does after three years in power and you will all cringe as disturbing trends and agendas are coming to fruition. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF LABOUR AND THE MAORI PARTIES so that they have no say about the future of NEW ZEALAND. (See what they are saying overseas about Aotearoa and the level of our so called MP’s) | Al;an |
| Transparency is not race related it is people related. | Keren |
| Totally NOT. This is a rip off of the highest magnitude. | Andrew |
| This is just straight out racism, if we can’t stop this madness staying in NZ may not be possible | Terry |
| without accountability there can be no measureable outcomes, therefore no guarantee of funds going where they are actually needed and/or intended. Its just fricken common sense…opps I said bad words “common sense” | Lianne |
| Any group charged with spending tax payers money must be accountable for how that money is spent and be held responsible for any misuse of it. | Mark |
| This is illegal why is it not being challenged. The Treaty of Waitangi Article III guarantees the same rights to ALL citizens not greater rights to one group of citizens based on race. Also it is constitutionally impossible for the governed to have a partnership or co-governance with a sovereignty. More Iwi Maori elite deceit to control taxpayers money with no accountability. This is a Maori Iwi elite COUP. Hello tribal rule, misery, bankruptcy and subservience to Maori elite/Iwi and gangs. NZERS don’t let this treason happen. | Peter |
| This present so-called Government is on a totally different planet !!!! Talk about Looney Toons,Trev!!! | Henry |
| It’s nonsense and not democratic. | Robyn |
| Racist. | Diana |
| Even worse, Maori corporations pay no tax whatsoever – thereby making absolutely no contribution to the welfare of “their people.” As the bill is picked up by non-Maori taxpayers, this by any definition represents sponging off non-Maori as well as being utterly hypocritical. | Jim |
| How dare this stealth be perpetrated against the kiwis (of all races) who live in and love this country!! Shame shame on you Ardern, you are a fervent racist. | Helen |
| It is scandalous. All tax payer funded entities must be accountable and transparent. | Colleen |
| The whole thing should be scrapped, but to save money on letterhead and logos already created, MHA should become the ‘Men’s Health Authority’ because everyone knows that men have poorer health outcomes than everyone else. | Tony |
| Never. Betrayal of NZ taxpayers at its worse. Whanau Ora has already failed with huge taxpayer input wasted with no improvement to Maori health only Iwi Maori elite wealth. The problem with Maori health is you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. Stop throwing good money after bad. | Brenda |
| Why are we allowing a veil of untruths to dislodge Democracy? Every issue that requires tax payer funding has to be able to be audited and held accountable. | Fi |
| Certainly not. It is wrong that a minor section of society (the iwi leaders) will determine all New Zealanders health. We must STOP this erosion of democracy now. But how do we do it? | Laura |
| All New Zealand Tax Payers money should be accountable including the millions that Maori received over the Covid epidemic | Wayne |
| We are being betrayed. | Tim |
| I will not accept a new Health Authority that is racist and not fully accountable to the tax payer | Ken |
| Seems anyone can be registered as Maori. I rang the electoral commission today, turns out if I think my great great grandfather was 1/4 Maori then I am Maori and can enrol on the Maori Roll. I don’t have to be able to prove it. This is absolute BS and it’s time the truth hurt some people. | Rod |
| When are we going to have a government with the guts to stand up to the Maoris and their demands. | Dawson |
| Utterly ridiculous. Maoris need to take care of their bodies and their lives and stop being sorry for themselves. If they truly believe they are so hard done by then why are their children at school? Why do Maori medical students have a lower entrance requirement? Why to they travel on Pakeha transport? Why do they wear Pakeha clothing and not grass skirts? And so on. Would they prefer to return to grass root living as Maori tribes constantly at war with each other? And son. And so on. Come on, Maoris. Time to WAKE UP and not let a few activist, racist Maoris cause deep resentment against you. This country needs us all to join together, all races, all people who are so fortunate to live in this God-given country of beauty and plenty. | Elizabeth |
| No race based policy is ever acceptable. | Steve |
| This is one country if this was to happen it proves that the side that wants it to happen is proving that they have not advanced since cook arrived. Do not blame other people get educated | rod |
| Any body receiving public funding should have to be accountable for the spending of that money | Dorothu |
| No way. It’s public health not for a minority race | John |
| We are building a fascist state. run by maori.. The fact of the matter is that there are Very few Maori that have more than 50% blood, so what is a Maori????? | Les |
| Scandalous to have funds allocated without usual accountability | David |
| One country one health system!! | Bradley |
| What is Luxon saying? | Hone |
| If it is not transparent, then the first we will hear of any misuse of funds will be a court case. It is going to happen. | Steph |
| It is apartheid in another guise | David |
| The depth to which this country is descending is unbelievable. | Graham |
| It is sickening in the extreme! | Ron |
| No to apartheid. | Rob |
| NOT DEMOCRATIC | JOHN |
| This country campaigned against the evil of apartheid. Why are we doing this? Get a grip Kiwis! | John |
| Just another case of Maroi wanting everything, take,take,take that’s all they ever do, the sooner we get rid of Maroi out of Government the better off the rest of us will be. | COLIN |
| Spending public money anywhere in the system requires accountability. | Charles |
| its our money we like to know were it goes and its fact maori have smoke drink and live life now | stephen |
| Maori blame the the health system for their poor health, they need to take responsibility for their health. There is plenty of info on healthy eating (you are what you eat) no one forces them to eat junk food or have lifestyles that are conducive to poor health outcomes. | Peter |
| Communism | Michael |
| None of the proposal is acceptable. Ethnic division is not acceptable. Minister Little is not convincing at all on the topic. | Peter |
| We should not be separating Health Authority at all – we are one people and we should all be treated equally THIS GOVERNMENT HAS GOT TO GO! | Debra |
| all government funded organisations should be accountable to taxpayers and subject to internal audit . It should be mandatory and not require any discussion. There should be major penalties for non-compliance. a few centuries ago it would have been beheading. | terrence |
| It is NOT ACCEPTABLE that there should be a “race based” dual health system in the first place..!! | Vic |
| That is total apartheid by stealth now in the health system. It is unconscionable. Each person is responsible for their own wellbeing. Maybe it should be portioned aunt according to the amount of tac each one pays? | ian |
| more of the same race based and divisive policies from Liebor | Mike |
| this is a disgrace, this cannot be allowed to happen | Geer |
| No is no place in NZ for racist based policies, or systems. We are a Democratic country, well we used to be….. | Richard |
| Unbelievably wrong in every way | Dianne |
| We are introducing aprtheid jsut like it was insouth africa under the afrikaaners and look how that turned out I am leaving NZ asap if this comes in | Dr Alan |
| this is reverse apartheid. Horrific and unfair. | Avril |
| This madness must be stopped. It is a complete disaster for our economy and the country. | Louise |
| If they don’t want accountability then fund it from the treaty settlements that have been paid out. | nic |
| No taxpayer money should ever be deemed unaccountable in a democracy. That is why we have a pandemic….Fauci is not accountable for the manner in which he uses American funding, nor where. | Sally |
| Inverted racism. I am tired of this race bullshit. Jizz (cindy) has to go, she is too reckless and dangerous. | Nic |
| Its a very bad idea and should be stopped at once. | Michael |
| Absolute racism and destruction of our society | Des |
| Ridiculous!! | lawrie |
| ALL spending of Government money MUST be subject to accountability and scrutiny under the laws of NZ, never mind those of us who foot the bill | Michael |
| This is the sleaziest,most underhand,undemocratic bunch ever to crawl out of the slime into Government. I am not surprised that they have once again dumped on the Kiwi voters as they seem to instinctively think of the dirty way to get laws passed and keep the voters in the dark. They know it fails the sniff test as does almost everything else they have handled. Little, the behind the scenes dirty operator would not dare try this on his Union mates as he would get stomped on quick & lively. As far as I am concerned Ardern still owes Joe Public $2.75 million for her gift to the Mongrel Mob. out of her own pocket. Where is the enquiry on this payment? This also fails the sniff test. | Terry |
| Outrageous abuse of the taxpayer. | Norm |
| Maori in this country are becoming a law unto themselves and are being elevated as superior to everyone in the country. | Lynne |
| It is absolutely NOT acceptable that taxpayers money could be used as a slush fund for iwi leaders. It is just another reason why this Bill should not go ahead. | Larry |
| I have now read the Auditor General’s criticisms of the Bill, yet I don’t recall seeing any mention of these crucial issues in the media. Why on earth not – they are hugely important. | Keith |
| The whole Bill is a complete and utter debacle and must be scrapped. | Donald |
| Who in their right mind would support a political party that wants to segregate the health system. Oh, that’s right – the Prime Minister forgot to tell us what she intended to do if she was re-elected. I bet a lot of people will be ruing the day they trusted her with their vote. | Trevor |
| What an appalling situation New Zealand is now in. On whose authority is Jacinda Ardern privatising control of health to the iwi elite. The public have’t agreed to this. The whole thing should be unceremoniously dumped! | Matilda |